The Shoutbox
Originally Posted by ynwtf
If I had a tenor....
.... you'd tenor in the morning
you'd tenor in the evening
all over this land?
If I had a tenor....
I did figure out You Belong to the City back in Jr. high on Alto tho.
Originally Posted by doubledenim
This shouter’ feels like it’s missing something 🤔

i like this
This shouter’ feels like it’s missing something 🤔

Reading her tweets though...she does seem to be sporting the fake feminist outfit pretty nicely...see what happens when celebrities get called out and bullied on twitter?!
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Originally Posted by CringeFest
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Originally Posted by John McClane
It’s all about royalties. These companies don’t want to pay a rapist. Can you blame them? But…they’ll gladly pay him if someone samples his work. I’m looking at you, Drake

I don’t disagree that the rules/laws are far from being well thought through/sophisticated, but still my view is that their personal lives/transgressions are one thing and rules about paying people for their work are quite separate. It’s his stuff and he deserves to get paid for it whatever the circumstances imo. Otherwise further down the line there’s potential to prevent people accused of allegedly doing/thinking/saying something politically incorrect (I’m looking at you, J. K. Rowling) being prevented from making money off their work and to me that’s a terrifying outcome.
while i partially agree with you, i don't find such compartmentalization to be realistic: whats done is never undone, and artists can't hide behind their art when what they do has far-reaching consequences.

im a little confused by your remark about JK, but i don't anything she said on twitter demands much of a response...some people will always have fairly normative attitudes about things because were all kinda lazy at the end of the day.
Yeah, understood… my J. K. Rowling reference wasn’t at all nuanced and it was, yes, lazy. I meant that she (or anyone in her position) could be penalised for her recent remarks by being no-platformed as could other creators for doing all sorts of things, less grave than R. Kelly’s transgressions, and stop receiving royalties for her work which will however continue sustaining other people such as the HP actors. I don’t find that to be a reasonable and desirable outcome. The compartmentalisation is certainly nearly impossible to achieve, but to me that’s still worth striving for.
just to be clear, i was saying that jk's attitudes about gender are fairly lazy, but i dont consider her to be a "TERF" or a hater of transexuals.
I don't see why people get so upset about those outed as "transaphobes", if the bar is set this low for villifying people then we're all basically screwed.
It's all about class: Ya either got a full glass or ya selling that ass!
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
I meant that she (or anyone in her position) could be penalised for her recent remarks by being no-platformed.
She holds creative rights to a billion dollar empire. Ain't no distribution company gonna say no to that kind of power. She's a paper pusher now, which makes her crying about sex all the more laughable. She's got more power than most men and she acts like she's being victimized most of the time.

Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
It’s his stuff and he deserves to get paid for it whatever the circumstances imo.
It's the distribution that's the issue. There is no law or right that says a company HAS to distribute an artist's work. That's just as much an infringement upon their rights. When an artist submits work they enter into an agreement that stipulates the distribution company can remove it at any time for any reason. And very few artists are rich enough to distribute their own stuff independently. Not if you want to reach millions and billions of people that is.
Originally Posted by CringeFest
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Originally Posted by John McClane
It’s all about royalties. These companies don’t want to pay a rapist. Can you blame them? But…they’ll gladly pay him if someone samples his work. I’m looking at you, Drake

I don’t disagree that the rules/laws are far from being well thought through/sophisticated, but still my view is that their personal lives/transgressions are one thing and rules about paying people for their work are quite separate. It’s his stuff and he deserves to get paid for it whatever the circumstances imo. Otherwise further down the line there’s potential to prevent people accused of allegedly doing/thinking/saying something politically incorrect (I’m looking at you, J. K. Rowling) being prevented from making money off their work and to me that’s a terrifying outcome.
while i partially agree with you, i don't find such compartmentalization to be realistic: whats done is never undone, and artists can't hide behind their art when what they do has far-reaching consequences.

im a little confused by your remark about JK, but i don't anything she said on twitter demands much of a response...some people will always have fairly normative attitudes about things because were all kinda lazy at the end of the day.
Yeah, understood… my J. K. Rowling reference wasn’t at all nuanced and it was, yes, lazy. I meant that she (or anyone in her position) could be penalised for her recent remarks by being no-platformed as could other creators for doing all sorts of things, less grave than R. Kelly’s transgressions, and stop receiving royalties for her work which will however continue sustaining other people such as the HP actors. I don’t find that to be a reasonable and desirable outcome. The compartmentalisation is certainly nearly impossible to achieve, but to me that’s still worth striving for.