[quote=The Rodent]That's my same point.

Soda was a glass embossed bottle, with a metal lid.
Both recyclable.
Even if the glass is crushed, it can be remelted and reused.

Soda now, is a plastic bottle, single use.
Plastic label, single use.
Plastic lid, single use.
And on opening the lid, it splits, into two pieces, both single use.

From one piece of glass, and one piece of metal... to 4 pieces of single use plastic.

And that's only inside of the past 10 years... and now, we have a plastic problem that the media and newspapers would have us believe is a problem caused by old ways.

It's not old ways.

It's the new way of manufacturing that has caused an instant problem.

Just 10 years ago...
Nappies/diapers could be bought as washable items, not single use plastic based chemicals...
Shopping/grocery bags were paper, not single use plastic...
Food packaging was cardboard, not single use plastic...

Plug sockets could be rewired... not single use chuck-away when they went faulty.

And car headlight bulbs could be bought at a petrol station and swapped inside of 3 minutes... and not need the entire single use plastic headlight assembly replaced in a garage for hundreds of pounds of cost, with the entire old headlight assembly needing to be broken down and "recycled",

Yet, you know, it was the old way that was wrong.
According to the press, government, newspapers, current generation etc.[/quote]

[quote=I_Wear_Pants]To avoid confusion, the reason I don't have infants anymore is because they've grown to be children. I still have children. They're just past infancy. Yeah right now they're watching a video on the couch.[/quote]

[quote=I_Wear_Pants]It makes no sense. When I had infants we went through diapers quickly, there were two infants, and it cost a lot. Having reusable would have been awesome. Instead I had to throw poopy nappies in plastic bags to go in more plastic bags to go in a dumpster. Like huh? 

Can't soda just be in aluminum or glass? Aren't those more reusable than plastic? I know plastic degrades when it's recycles, so why bother keep doing it? The glass and metals don't degrade so aren't they better? If there's a problem, why doesn't anyone solve it instead of just whine and make it worse?

We want greener cars, and yet disposing of an electric car battery is worse for the environment than petrol. And then we still have the gas guzzlers that make the smog we so despise. 

I didn't mean to rant...[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=I_Wear_Pants][quote=The Rodent][quote=I_Wear_Pants]Why do I need to buy more things when I buy one thing?[/quote]

And with energy saving lightbulbs, washers that use less energy and wash on colder temperatures, TVs that use less power, and so and so on... why is it our gas and electricity bills still keep going up?[/quote]
Did the electrons demand higher wages? What is happening here? Who put the world on the "Crazy Cycle"? The "Psycho Path"? The "Tizzy Trail"? Do we just use everything more? We try to be greener and yet we're browner and yet no one wants anything to put any energy to changing it.[/quote]


We try to be greener... but barely 10 years ago, soda came in glass bottles and diapers were reusable... and now its all plastic bottles that break into 4 pieces of plastic when opened, and single use plastic packaging...and now we have a plastic problem that makes everyone think we need to "change our old ways of doing thins" to "new ways of recycling to save the planet".

Just stick to the old ways... it's the new ways that caused the problems we have..., it was better when we reused things.[/quote]

[quote=I_Wear_Pants][quote=The Rodent][quote=I_Wear_Pants]Why do I need to buy more things when I buy one thing?[/quote]

And with energy saving lightbulbs, washers that use less energy and wash on colder temperatures, TVs that use less power, and so and so on... why is it our gas and electricity bills still keep going up?[/quote]
Did the electrons demand higher wages? What is happening here? Who put the world on the "Crazy Cycle"? The "Psycho Path"? The "Tizzy Trail"? Do we just use everything more? We try to be greener and yet we're browner and yet no one wants anything to put any energy to changing it.[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=I_Wear_Pants]Why do I need to buy more things when I buy one thing?[/quote]

And with energy saving lightbulbs, washers that use less energy and wash on colder temperatures, TVs that use less power, and so and so on... why is it our gas and electricity bills still keep going up?[/quote]

[quote=I_Wear_Pants]Thankfully there are DVD-Rs on their way, for some reason some are used and unlabeled and in a case where blank ones go, and now I need a Mini USB to USB-C cable.[/quote]

[quote=I_Wear_Pants]Why do I need to buy more things when I buy one thing?[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=MovieGal]Its wet and cold[/quote]

Exactly my thoughts when a dog nose prods me in the face when I sleep in by mistake.[/quote]

[quote=MovieGal][quote=FilmBuff][quote=MovieGal]Its wet and cold[/quote]

But Spring is coming![/quote]

Not soon enough[/quote]