[quote=Yoda]What's that old saying? When people show you who they are, believe them.

I usually don't believe them the first few times. The downside is a lot of needless hostility and distraction from more productive discussions. The upside is a totally clear conscience when I finally have to make the decision.[/quote]

[quote=Chypmunk]They do say that tigers rarely change their spots.

[size="2"]*'They' being the incessant voices in my head[/size][/quote]

[quote=Yoda]Yeah, very often in these situations things are better in the wake of a warning or ban (with assurances it won't be the same going forward), but it usually decays quickly and sometimes it's even worse than before. Almost without exception I end up letting people go through this cycle [i]several[/i] times, even though after a couple it's abundantly clear it isn't going to change.[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=Yoda]I think with this type of problem the initial topic doesn't even matter. Anything can (and usually will) be dragged in more hostile directions.[/quote]

A lot of this depends on the individual or individuals involved.  
Our conversations in the “riot in us” thread is A good example where we avoided insulting each other, and not being condescending for the sake of of it.  While we didn’t agree, we never really crossed any lines where the other person left personally insulted by the other (for the most part).  
And if it seemed like it was getting slightly heated, we walked away before it got worse.[/quote]

[quote=Austruck][quote=Yoda][quote=The Rodent]Whenever I hear the name kool aid I wanna start a cult and have 180 wives.[/quote]
I drink a lot of the stuff. Not literally, it's all sugar free, and it's usually generic stuff. But I buy sugar free drink mix in bulk from Wal-Mart or wherever and keep like four jugs in the fridge and keep one with me most of the day, just chugging the stuff. It's a great habit, if you can get used to just sort of drinking water steadily throughout the day.[/quote]
I'm the same way all summer long (sugar-free lemonade, just the 2-qt. Great Value/Walmart brand packets). I think we even use the same Rubbermaid jugs. :D So easy.

But, if all your sugar-free stuff has aspartame, that's a lot of aspartame. See if you can find brands/off-brands that use Splenda or stevia. (I think I remember that you don't care for stevia, though.) 

I gotta get back off the aspartame wagon. That stuff is so bad. 

4C has a really good lemonade that has Splenda instead of aspartame. Gotta go order me some...[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]I think with this type of problem the initial topic doesn't even matter. Anything can (and usually will) be dragged in more hostile directions.[/quote]

[quote=Chypmunk][quote=The Rodent]Didn't he die in 1996?[/quote]

Plenty of salt as a preservative .... should be good for another decade or so yet.[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Yoda][quote=Wyldesyde19]Forgive me for asking, but what does off site stuff cover exactly?  
Don’t need specifics of his case Specifically , obviously, but the violations that could lead to it.[/quote]
Any threats or harassment done outside of the forum. Usually email.[/quote]

Seems rather ironic that this all happened over an argument over the semantics of the word "hate". Oh well, at least I don't have to tell him what I thought of [i]Kaboom[/i].[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19]2 packs lives on[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]Before anybody spreads any misinformation, you have to make it with 2 packs.[/font][/quote]


Didn't he die in 1996?[/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]Before anybody spreads any misinformation, you have to make it with 2 packs.[/font][/quote]