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Probably best posed in a relevant thread so people can give more substantive responses, but for me the short version is that the bad guys are cartoonish, the message is clumsily overt, and it never really finds the right balance between the fairy tale vibe and the adult issues it wants to talk about.
Why is The Shape of Water getting soooooo much hate?
Watching It's Always Sunny. Think this is my favourite movie/tv slap 1:00 in:

While asking why you did.

You mentioned progress 3 times. Just sayin.
Why do you keep mentioning progress? Are people saying it's progress?

A film about a trans woman won the best foreign language oscar and said trans woman presented one of the awards. Think that would more be the progress you're looking for.
Maybe I'm still salty about The Dark Knight not even receiving a nomination. Cuz I saw the movie and enjoyed the hell out of it. But Fish people don't actually exist, yeah? So, yeah, progress. Now a Science fiction movie can win so maybe a (gasp!) super-hero flick can win it too.

If America is OK with cross-breeding then surely we're OK with a guy in tights winning Best Picture? They were black tights. Pretty manly, I reckon.
Originally Posted by Powdered Water
So a gal bangs out a fishy lookin dude and can win Best Picture. Is that progress?
Scalie/furry representation.
Originally Posted by Powdered Water
So a gal bangs out a fishy lookin dude and can win Best Picture. Is that progress?
Why not
So a gal bangs out a fishy lookin dude and can win Best Picture. Is that progress?