The Shoutbox
Originally Posted by Sedai
Originally Posted by John McClane
Amazon pushes itself as being customer obsessed.

That, in and of itself, is evil.

Ok, now I will shut up.
Every business is focused on their customers - that's the very definition of business.
Customer obsessed is a lot different, though. It's the idea that everything and every decision is made to service the customer better/faster/etc. And no, not all businesses are customer obsessed.

Customer obsession means all practical decisions (i.e. how much they pollute, etc.) take a back seat to whether or not it is improving the customer experience. Amazon is basically a crack dealer.
Any word that describes both delivering stuff to your door and Pol Pot is, perhaps, a little too broad to be useful.
Originally Posted by John McClane
Amazon pushes itself as being customer obsessed.

That, in and of itself, is evil.

Ok, now I will shut up.
Every business is focused on their customers - that's the very definition of business. Good businesses are also focused on taking care of their employees, which Amazon has come under fire for from time to time. Still, not seeing how any of this is evil, when considering the definition of the word.
Oh man, don't even get me started about the boxes that are three times bigger than necessary.
Amazon and Walmart mail-orders supply all my packaging needs.

I'm tempted to return items that arrive without packaged air.
I'm the dude who parks in BF Egpyt and hits three or more stores without ever moving the car, and if I buy anything I will take it back to the car before I go to the next store. Planned transportation.
Apologies if your shouts did not convince me. My own Amazon shopping habits have saved me many, many trips out in the car.

Clearly you're just not doing it right.
Amazon pushes itself as being customer obsessed.

That, in and of itself, is evil.

Ok, now I will shut up.
So my argument, essentially, is that Amazon has disrupted our economy by introducing a pollution heavy service. Its services havent detracted from our CO2 emissions.

It wasnt until just a couple years ago, and after immense pressure, that they committed to being carbon neutral. And thats not going to happen until like 2040 something!

And thats because their supply chain and service has grown so massive and wasteful that it will take decades to fix it.
Shout bump
"Experts say that e-commerce could actually, if optimized, be beneficial for the environment. Getting into your personal vehicle and going to the store isnt very efficient, but consolidating multiple shoppers deliveries into one vehicle can be. Anne Goodchild, director of the University of Washingtons Supply Chain Transportation and Logistics Center, told BuzzFeed News, “Broadly speaking, delivery services have the potential to dramatically reduce miles traveled.”

However, people arent offsetting the traffic to shopping malls and grocery stores by buying online. "The problem is we are still doing both, meaning there are more emissions and more congestion," Jaller said. In fact, the number of trucks (which includes all types, not just delivery vehicles) on the road has doubled since 1995."

https://depts.washington.edu/sctlctr...-fast-shipping