[quote=Austruck](trying to revive the BSG mania she had to read for months before she watched the show herself....)[/quote]

[quote=Austruck]BSG in three hours!! Yee-haw![/quote]

[quote=Austruck]That sounds like a good bumper sticker, Yoda: "War forces the best of us to match what the worst of us are capable of."

Well, okay, maybe not for MY car... :rolleyes:[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote]I wouldn't necessarily say it's unavoidable and I'm also not saying that we shouldn't be prepared. It's just, we [humans] wage war all too well.[/quote]
Yep. Probably because it forces the best of us to match what the worst of us are capable of, even if only to guard against it.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote]Well, it all depends on what you view as preventing conflict. I consider it having a force strong enough to deflect attacks from enemies and protect other countries, while some see it as a need for preemptive war.[/quote]
When I said "preventing conflict in the first place," I wasn't referring to preemptive war. I was saying that, in all likelihood, having such a military discourages some attacks from ever taking place.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]I wouldn't necessarily say it's unavoidable and I'm also not saying that we shouldn't be prepared. It's just, we [humans] wage war all too well.[/quote]

[quote=PimpDaShizzle V2.0]War's unavoidable.  Why not be prepared for it?[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]Oh, I wouldn't say it's cocky; I'd say it's wise. It's not advocating overwhelming force for its own sake; it's advocating it as a means for preventing conflict in the first place.[/quote]Well, it all depends on what you view as preventing conflict. I consider it having a force strong enough to deflect attacks from enemies and protect other countries, while some see it as a need for preemptive war.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][i]Carl Sagan[/i] was amazingly smart yet, simple.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]Oh, I wouldn't say it's cocky; I'd say it's wise. It's not advocating overwhelming force for its own sake; it's advocating it as a meants for preventing conflict in the first place.

In an odd little mobius strip of geopolitical logic, having advanced weaponry may preclude you from having to use it.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]The United States is just a bit too cocky.[/quote]