[quote=Allaby]Watching another Hallmark movie today.  This one is a mystery and it has a dog in it![/quote]

[quote=John McClane]next time you order rocks include me, yeah?[/quote]

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[quote=Mr Minio][quote=FilmBuff][quote=Mr Minio]Americans can't have fun.[/quote]

Lol, have you ever been here?[/quote] I'm talking in filmmaking terms.[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio][quote=Wyldesyde19]Maybe not by American standards ,but I’m measuring it by Hong Kong  standards which, let’s face it, was throw everything together and hope it makes some money.  Maybe throw in some actions just because.  Who cares if it makes sense, right?[/quote] You're measuring Hong Kong movies by Hong Kong standards so you're using the same thing to measure something? You can't measure entertainment by the factors of arthouse cinema. And if you measure HK cinema o the 80s and 90s by the standards of today's HK cinema, then today's cinema is simply unwatchable.

[quote=Wyldesyde19]But this isn’t about the US. Bringing them up as some sort of argument for comparisons sake doesn’t hold up.[/quote] It does hold up. I'm just comparing films of the same type from the same era just from different countries.

[quote=Wyldesyde19]Arguing against serving the story is a shallow response.  The story is important, after all. Even Hong Kong films even had them. Even if they were sometimes simple.[/quote] Bemoaningly, they had the story. Some of them would be better off without one. But the screenwriting was so much different from American storytelling. Where American entertainment cinema fails is their idea that even 100% entertaining silly or fantasy movies need a coherent, 'well'-written story that checks all the boxes of 'proper' film writing you'd use in any other 'serious' movie. They cannot quite escape this.

[quote=Wyldesyde19]
And if blue light to make it artsier is the highlight, it’s not much of one.[/quote] You don't get it. It's not to make it artsier. It's to make the atmosphere better. But you probably watch these films on Bluray where them morons who restored the movies deleted the blue light.

[quote=Wyldesyde19]
Also, I don’t like Jackie Chan films very much. There I said it.  
Except Police Story.  
But that’s it![/quote] Yeah, me too. Jackie Chan's films are overrated, indeed, but I like Police Story. City Hunter is the best film with Chan, also the least favorite of Chan's films he starred in, which says a lot.

[quote=Wyldesyde19]
I also like A Chinese Ghost Story
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.  
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.[/quote]

A Chinese Ghost Story is classic. Tsui Hark is very good (better than Spielberg when it comes to Spielbergian cinema of the middle kinda stuff) but his movies aren't always great. Anything he made post-handover is bad, in particular. Still, he directed and produced some amazing masterpieces.

Johnnie To is a GOAT. One of the few directors who not only survived the handover quality-wise but arguably upped their quality after the handover, which is insane!!![/quote]

[quote=FilmBuff][quote=Mr Minio]Americans can't have fun.[/quote]

Lol, have you ever been here?[/quote]

[quote=John-Connor][FONT="Century Gothic"]Goodmorning! :o The 80s rock, ignore what 12 year olds think about it...:D[/FONT]
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[quote=Wyldesyde19]Also, Lam Nai Choi made two films that I clearly think are amazing: Riki- oh and The Cat.  
The alien fungus like creature in The Cat was very creative.  
Still need to see The Seventh Curse[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19]In general, for me.  
Maybe not by American standards ,but I’m measuring it by Hong Kong  standards which, let’s face it, was throw everything together and hope it makes some money.  Maybe throw in some actions just because.  Who cares if it makes sense, right?  
Their attempts at making money at the Box Office resulted in films that would make the US blush.  And the US had sown truly bad films during that same period.  
But this isn’t about the US. Bringing them up as some sort of argument for comparisons sake doesn’t hold up.  US films were more coherent.  (Sometimes)
Arguing against serving the story is a shallow response.  The story is important, after all. Even Hong Kong films even had them.  Even if they were sometimes simple.  That’s fine, it isn’t a dig. it wasn’t like the US (or Japan, or Italy, or France etc) didn’t always make that deep of a film. 
And if blue light to make it artsier is the highlight, it’s not much of one.  
Also, I don’t like Jackie Chan films very much. There I said it.  
Except Police Story.  
But that’s it!
I also like A Chinese Ghost Story
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.  
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyEujHcu-8o

Lookee here. So it IS possible to make a modern rape'n'revenge film that looks half-decent.[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]Can't wait to write a film review where I say "I feel like the rape jokes were a little bit forced."[/quote]