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Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
Maybe not by American standards ,but I’m measuring it by Hong Kong standards which, let’s face it, was throw everything together and hope it makes some money. Maybe throw in some actions just because. Who cares if it makes sense, right?
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
But this isn’t about the US. Bringing them up as some sort of argument for comparisons sake doesn’t hold up.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
Arguing against serving the story is a shallow response. The story is important, after all. Even Hong Kong films even had them. Even if they were sometimes simple.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
And if blue light to make it artsier is the highlight, it’s not much of one.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
Also, I don’t like Jackie Chan films very much. There I said it.
Except Police Story.
But that’s it!
Except Police Story.
But that’s it!
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
I also like A Chinese Ghost Story
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.
Johnnie To is a GOAT. One of the few directors who not only survived the handover quality-wise but arguably upped their quality after the handover, which is insane!!!
Also, Lam Nai Choi made two films that I clearly think are amazing: Riki- oh and The Cat.
The alien fungus like creature in The Cat was very creative.
Still need to see The Seventh Curse
The alien fungus like creature in The Cat was very creative.
Still need to see The Seventh Curse
In general, for me.
Maybe not by American standards ,but I’m measuring it by Hong Kong standards which, let’s face it, was throw everything together and hope it makes some money. Maybe throw in some actions just because. Who cares if it makes sense, right?
Their attempts at making money at the Box Office resulted in films that would make the US blush. And the US had sown truly bad films during that same period.
But this isn’t about the US. Bringing them up as some sort of argument for comparisons sake doesn’t hold up. US films were more coherent. (Sometimes)
Arguing against serving the story is a shallow response. The story is important, after all. Even Hong Kong films even had them. Even if they were sometimes simple. That’s fine, it isn’t a dig. it wasn’t like the US (or Japan, or Italy, or France etc) didn’t always make that deep of a film.
And if blue light to make it artsier is the highlight, it’s not much of one.
Also, I don’t like Jackie Chan films very much. There I said it.
Except Police Story.
But that’s it!
I also like A Chinese Ghost Story
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.
Maybe not by American standards ,but I’m measuring it by Hong Kong standards which, let’s face it, was throw everything together and hope it makes some money. Maybe throw in some actions just because. Who cares if it makes sense, right?
Their attempts at making money at the Box Office resulted in films that would make the US blush. And the US had sown truly bad films during that same period.
But this isn’t about the US. Bringing them up as some sort of argument for comparisons sake doesn’t hold up. US films were more coherent. (Sometimes)
Arguing against serving the story is a shallow response. The story is important, after all. Even Hong Kong films even had them. Even if they were sometimes simple. That’s fine, it isn’t a dig. it wasn’t like the US (or Japan, or Italy, or France etc) didn’t always make that deep of a film.
And if blue light to make it artsier is the highlight, it’s not much of one.
Also, I don’t like Jackie Chan films very much. There I said it.
Except Police Story.
But that’s it!
I also like A Chinese Ghost Story
Tsui Hark isn’t that good.
I Need to watch more Johnnie To.
Can't wait to write a film review where I say "I feel like the rape jokes were a little bit forced."
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
The more I dig further into Hong Kong cinema during the 80’s and 90’s, the more I feel it’s mostly over ratted. Particularly their hybrid action films (usually horror/comedy/action/combination that seems too much of a mishmash of genre to be coherent at times).
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
There are some good directors out of that particular period, for sure. Wong Kar Wai, Stanley Kwan, Ann Hui, Fruit Chan for example. For the most part, yeah…not so great.
Originally Posted by Iroquois
the hell you say. seeing stuff like the boxer's omen and the seventh curse for the first time in the last few years does nothing to undermine what face-melters they are, especially in comparison to a lot of what passes for "new" great films.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
Naming two films isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of Hong Kong films during that period.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19
Comparison to new films isn’t exactly an argument in and of itself either, I’d add.
Originally Posted by Iroquois
Originally Posted by FilmBuff
That's because they ARE overrated, but in all fairness they seemed a lot better when they were brand new!
Comparison to new films isn’t exactly an argument in and of itself either, I’d add.
Originally Posted by FilmBuff
That's because they ARE overrated, but in all fairness they seemed a lot better when they were brand new!