[quote=AgrippinaX][quote=John McClane]Because she was already an adult with opinions, but she didn't share them for fear of alienating fans. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy is all.

She had this whole "artists shouldn't have opinions" phase, and now she won't stop injecting herself into discussions.[/quote]

Exactly, it’s like she finally bought into the politics of showbiz after sitting on the fence for a while.[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19]So she’s judged for it having any and now judged for deciding to finally have some?  See the issue there?  Her reasons are her own, I would imagine. How many of us were outspoken at that age?  I know I wasn’t.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Because she was already an adult with opinions, but she didn't share them for fear of alienating fans. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy is all.

She had this whole "artists shouldn't have opinions" phase, and now she won't stop injecting herself into discussions.[/quote]

[quote=AgrippinaX][quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=John McClane][quote=Wyldesyde19]Nah, she doesn’t pretend to be 13 any longer so much as she’s lately trying to be an adult with opinions.[/quote]Which is funny because she was doing everything possible a few years ago to never have opinions.[/quote]

Not sure I understand why it’s funny she has decided to have an opinion now.  
🤷*♂️[/quote]

Because I guess she consciously divested herself of all nuance at the time and now decided, ‘Oh, maybe that wasn’t so smart’.[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=John McClane][quote=Wyldesyde19]Nah, she doesn’t pretend to be 13 any longer so much as she’s lately trying to be an adult with opinions.[/quote]Which is funny because she was doing everything possible a few years ago to never have opinions.[/quote]

Not sure I understand why it’s funny she has decided to have an opinion now.  
🤷*♂️[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Wyldesyde19]Nah, she doesn’t pretend to be 13 any longer so much as she’s lately trying to be an adult with opinions.[/quote]Which is funny because she was doing everything possible a few years ago to never have opinions.[/quote]

[quote=ynwtf][quote=Wyldesyde19]Nah, she doesn’t pretend to be 13 any longer so much as she’s lately trying to be an adult with opinions.   
I say this as a fan of *some* of her music. (not shake it off obvi)[/quote]

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[quote=Wyldesyde19]Nah, she doesn’t pretend to be 13 any longer so much as she’s lately trying to be an adult with opinions.   
I say this as a fan of *some* of her music. (not shake it off obvi)[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Taylor Swift.

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[quote=ynwtf]I'm sitting waiting on a pickup order and the radio is playing that pop song, "shake it off" or whatever by whoever that adult still pretending to be 13 is. I've never heard this song completely. It is grating. But I'm trying to imagine performing this one live. Wow. It's non-stop start to finish. She's got to be exhausted after that set trying to sing it and bop around on stage. Respect, I guess. I couldn't do it. More a criticsm on the song writing I guess. It's over. Woo.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]One thing is clear from the Challenger and Columbia losses and that is the STS program was doomed to experience catastrophic failures. We never should have developed it.[/quote]