[quote=FilmBuff]I have learned so much about YouTube this morning.... ;)[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]hey man, the pyramid ain't gonna build itself[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]Ya'll acting like you get a commission for talking people out of this.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]YouTube Music is the only reason their service is so damned expensive. that junk needs to be forked into its own package.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]i can assure you, based on how much they nag users, most people are not paying.[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]It's 2024 and people are still paying for things like YouTube Music?[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]as for ads, i just turn the follow all the way down and close my eyes. i'd like to see Google try and ban that workaround![/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]Also aware that Smart Talk or any alternative to the V, comes at the cost of data security or something along those lines.

How else can you explain the cost difference, other than having to buy the phone.[/font][/quote]security isn't the issue for that cost difference. it's priority routing (i.e. when a disaster or terrorism hits your service is gonna be the first one cut off to prioritize the main branch of users). but if that is happening you've got way bigger problems.[/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][quote=Yoda]There's some other stuff like higher bitrate, downloads, blah blah, but it's all just extra bits on top of the core stuff.

Being able to fire up any video and have it play immediately with no ads is really, really nice.[/quote]

[font=century gothic]I can see that. YT on a tv is a nightmare. Mobile is easier to implement some of the workarounds, i.e. reloading a page to kill the ad.[/font][/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]Also aware that Smart Talk or any alternative to the V, comes at the cost of data security or something along those lines.

How else can you explain the cost difference, other than having to buy the phone.[/font][/quote]

[quote=Yoda]There's some other stuff like higher bitrate, downloads, blah blah, but it's all just extra bits on top of the core stuff.

Being able to fire up any video and have it play immediately with no ads is really, really nice.[/quote]