[quote=Yoda]I wasn't nuts about most of the cameos, either, but the movies were particularly well-chosen and the riffs very good.

"Fire at the aquarium? Well, that should sort itself out."[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Camo]That's another issue i had, to me all the movies including Mano were just dull to me. I'm not big on bad movies as entertainment with The Room and a few from my childhood being the only real exceptions. Which is why it might just not be for me.

Even The Room is way too boring to watch myself, i'd only ever watch it with friends and probably not more than once a year.[/quote]

Yeah, that probably doesn't help. So many of the episodes are riffing on movies that are quite simply boring but you do get ones that have some measure of pace and get their bad reputations on the back of being out-and-out nasty like [i]Mitchell[/i] or as bone-headed as [i]Space Mutiny[/i] (the latter of which gave us the immortal "Slab Bulkhead" running gag).[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois]My recollection of the new episodes is...lukewarm. The main thing that stands out in my memory is the large amount of ill-advised cameos, but also the main riff that stood out to me was Jonah taking the time to point out a practical effect that was actually elaborate and well-done in one episode.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]The new ones are all pretty good. Highly recommended, excited there'll be making more.[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois]Yeah, all those factors do make it a tough sell. I think you could always try figuring out your own personal preferences for what movies you could watch and picking whatever episodes fit them - or go through [url=https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?series=tt0094517&view=simple&count=250&sort=user_rating,desc&ref_=tt_eps_rhs_sm]the highest-rated episodes on IMDb[/url].

I haven't watched an episode in so long and it's hard to get into because watching episodes at random means I can't remember exactly which ones I have or haven't watched so picking new ones to watch is a bit of a gamble and I'm still not sure I want to start from the very beginning either - plus, as you mentioned, the running time of the average episode is always a little daunting.[/quote]

[quote=Camo]Manos* 

Jesus.[/quote]

[quote=Camo]That's another issue i had, to me all the movies including Mano were just dull to me. I'm not big on bad movies as entertainment with The Room and a few from my childhood being the only real exceptions. Which is why it might just not be for me.

Even The Room is way too boring to watch myself, i'd only ever watch it with friends and probably not more than once a year.[/quote]

[quote=Camo]He did actually say the first 20 or so episodes are pretty boring because they picked bad but boring movies that weren't easy to make fun of, not sure if that's accurate. That's why he more said i should pick random ones, his suggesting it from the start was because they apparently establish their tone and some running jokes despite the episodes being kinda dull.

Not sure why he didn't mention the movie if it's like that.

Problem with something like that is episodes are 90 minutes long so if it doesn't hook you pretty quickly (in this day and age when i've got so much readily available choice i mean) it's difficult to motivate yourself to continue.

Will get back to it though.[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Camo][quote=Iroquois]Yeah, I think most of the titles that were famous mainly for being on [i]MST3K[/i] got removed from the list, presumably because it shouldn't count when you're rating the [i]MST3K[/i] version that obviously alters the experience ([i]Manos[/i], of course, stays on the list because its badness transcends [i]MST3K[/i]).[/quote]

I've honestly struggled getting into MST3K but my friend said i approached it wrong. He said i should have either started from the start or picked random episodes before seeking out the consensus best ones, so i get a feel for it and get the running jokes and stuff.

I just googled best MST3K Episodes, watched four of them and thought they were all okay.[/quote]

Huh, and here I was thinking that the earliest seasons were probably too rough around the edges to really serve as a good entry point for the series (though I'll concede that quite a few of the best episodes have definitely advanced the series' mythology to the point where it's not easy to just jump right in). It may help that my entry point was [i]MST3K: The Movie[/i], which deliberately streamlined the experience in such a way that regular audiences could get into it and potentially seek out the show proper.[/quote]

[quote=Camo]Obscure to a Scottish person obv. But i know a lot of stuff i shouldn't about America and i hadn't heard of a lot of this stuff.[/quote]