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Editboy 01-18-08 06:55 PM

Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Why do so many people hate Brett Ratner? I mean his movies aren't that bad, they make a lot of money as they are generally successful
and I think he does a good job at entertaining people.
I'd love to hear from you all. Do you like him, hate him, don't care about him etc.

Powdered Water 01-18-08 07:06 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Well I really don't care for the word hate myself and I'm sure a lot of others will agree on that. What are you basing this on? I don't think I've seen a bunch of I hate Brent Ratner threads around here. And btw, this will most likely be moved down to the Director and film industry section so don't freak out if you can't find it tomorrow.

Editboy 01-18-08 07:13 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
I've read a few things online and in magazines like total film that have dig at him sometimes...and sorry about this being in the wrong place....

meatwadsprite 01-18-08 07:19 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
I like Rush Hour 1 -3 , but Red Dragon was pretty bad.

fightclub 01-18-08 08:38 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Agreed, meat, Reg Dragon was one of those films you felt you had wasted 2 hours of your life.

The Taxi Driver 01-18-08 08:57 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Thats just it, sure rush hour was entertaining but it seems thats all the guy can do. His films don't seem to have any substance they are just popcorn flicks that you forget about later. Look at what Brian Singer did with the first two X-men he successfully translated the x-men universe and its characters to film in his own unique way then expanded on that with the superior X2. Then Ratner throws all that out the window with the third and just puts cool looking fight scenes and effects and thinks the movie will be deep because he can kill or get rid of some of the best characters in the films very quickly. granted he didn't write the script but as director he should do something about the bad story line.

I never hated Brett Ratner but after the disappointment of X-men 3 I can safely say I dislike his work more than I did

thebest 01-18-08 09:17 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Loved the Rush Hour thrillogy (and I don't just toss words like "thrillogy" around)

I blame Bryan Singer for what happened to X-Men 3 more than I would Brattner

7thson 01-18-08 11:29 PM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
I do not think X-Men 3 was that awful. Sure, I think it is the weakest of the three, but if you think this is just a trilogy - then you are wrong. I promise you that the X-Men will be back, as a team on the big screen sometime not too far in the future.,
,

,
,and if not then I will eat Wolverines sideburns. ;)

By 2011 we will see another X-Mem film, if not sooner.
And I do not mean a spinoff - we all know those are in the works.

Thursday Next 01-19-08 05:10 AM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Originally Posted by thebest (Post 406860)
Loved the Rush Hour thrillogy (and I don't just toss words like "thrillogy" around)
Me neither...in fact, I think I can safely say I've never used the word, much less tossed it around and probably never will. Like 'prequel' and 'gorno' I think the movie world would be a better place without it...

Misterking 01-19-08 05:44 AM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Originally Posted by Thursday Next (Post 406941)
Me neither...in fact, I think I can safely say I've never used the word, much less tossed it around and probably never will. Like 'prequel' and 'gorno' I think the movie world would be a better place without it...
Gorno?

Pyro Tramp 01-19-08 08:49 AM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
Torture porn


Rush Hour 3 was worst film of last year, and while X-Men 3 wasn't worst of it's year, don't see Ratner bashing out any masterpieces. Think he's nailed his status as a tacky director, especially since Rush Hour 3 was marketed as a 'Brett Ratner film' or some such so imagine if that's what he's proud to put his name to, not much hope for anything more.

emir 01-20-08 10:29 AM

Re: Why does everyone hate Brett Ratner?
 
I don't see people with torches anywhere trying to murder Brett Ratner, but it's true that he's getting much more criticism than some other equally mediocre directors. The reason for this is that he often gets to direct sequels to highly appreciated films, like The Silence of the Lambs and X-Men and, not being a director of the same caliber as Demme, Scott or Singer, gets an amount of criticism that he most likely doesn't deserve. It's not his fault that he's not as good a director as fans want him to be, any director would jump at the opportunity to direct such potential critical and Box-Office hits - fans should blame studio executives for hiring him.

And, in my opinion, he's not all that bad. His movies lack ingenuity but are, for the most part, entertaining - I enjoyed the first two Rush Hour flicks and Red Dragon is, despite a huge resemblance to its much praised predecessor, a solid thriller. As for X-Men, I always thought that the second installment lost quite some appeal that the original movie had and, in my opinion, The Last Stand would have been a failure (albeit at a lesser degree), even with Singer helming it.


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