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Prospero 09-08-07 06:59 PM

The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
1. Interpret any way you like.
2. Choose a movie.
3. Discuss

I've seen a lot of pretty violent movies, but I think this one takes the cake:

http://blogs.amctv.com/monsterfest/i...chi_killer.gif
ICHI THE KILLER

Almost comic-bookish in its violent scenes. Just completely over the top.

Tacitus 09-08-07 07:07 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
For the sake of posting something off kilter from what I'd expect the majority of replies to be...

Izo (2004, That bloke Miike again)


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6.../28thasian.jpg

Wholesale slaughter. With a point. ;)

7thson 09-08-07 10:52 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Goodfellas

http://www.iankenny.com/IanKenny/IMA...oodfellas..jpg

It is not just the "violence", it is the glorification of it, or the enjoyment of it and the necessity of it, or the F'ed up way it is respected and accepted and applauded..yea thats it.

SamsoniteDelilah 09-09-07 02:31 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Pan's Labyrinth was out there.

m0dern_pr0phet 09-09-07 04:52 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Ichi the killer had violence yes, but the CG was quite poor and I remember laughing at some of the gore scenes.

Pan's Labyrinth was pretty violent ^ I'd have to agree with that one.

Sinny McGuffins 09-09-07 10:19 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
A History of Violence was pretty graphic.

Originally Posted by 7thson
Goodfellas
I'd call Casino more violent than Goodfellas.

Thursday Next 09-09-07 10:27 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Kill Bill ... but that was so over the top, it had almost a numbing effect. I don't know whether it was intending to be shocking or funny or both, but the scene where she single-handedly slaughters a room full of men, leaving them with fountains of blood spurting out of their severed limbs just made me think of the black knight in Monty Python "just a scratch!". Only Python, of course, was 25 years earlier and 25 times funnier.

On the other side of the coin, The Passion of the Christ, for close up torture violence that you could really feel.

I think how violent a film is does depend on how believable the violence is. It's not about the body count. One death can be much more violent than 100 deaths depending on the way it is depicted.
Other films that would make the top 10 most violent (out of the films that I've seen, and bearing in mind I generally avoid horror films) include Sin City (a man eaten by his own dog, having had his limbs removed by a chainsaw, nice), Scream, Braveheart and Oldboy.

Iroquois 09-09-07 10:32 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Battle Royale

EDIT

Well, as stated before, there is the kind of excessive, over-the-top violence such as Kill Bill or Holy Grail, then there's the violence that leaves an emotional impact (regardless of visual strength) e.g. City of God. I chose Battle Royale because it's the one film I've seen that fills both definitions perfectly.

Thursday Next 09-09-07 10:37 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 383373)
Well, as stated before, there is the kind of excessive, over-the-top violence such as Kill Bill or Holy Grail, then there's the violence that leaves an emotional impact (regardless of visual strength) e.g. City of God.
I can't believe I forgot City of God. Very violent and disturbing with it.

Iroquois 09-09-07 10:49 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
To be honest, I didn't find it that disturbing, especially in comparison to something like Oldboy.

On a relevant note, I have not seen any of the Saw movies or Hostel movies or anything by Miike. Am I really missing anything?

Thursday Next 09-09-07 11:01 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 383378)
To be honest, I didn't find it that disturbing, especially in comparison to something like Oldboy.
It wasn't the violence in itself which I found disturbing but the fact that it was kids doing it, not Joe Pesci in a suit. Also some of it was so 'close up', you could really see the fear and desperation on the faces of the people on both ends of the guns.

Pyro Tramp 09-09-07 05:21 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
If you're looking at most violent in terms of quantity, i'd say Hard Boiled stands out.

If you're talking most violent in terms of pushing to extreme i'd say Audition (Miike, again ;)); it's violence that really gets under your skin more so than the comic book glossy stuff in Ichi.

Gory violence i'd say Bad Taste and Braindead take the biscuit.

Kung fu violence, can't not mention Lee in Enter the Dragon but i'd put Ong-Bak over that.

Oldboy has been mentioned but i'd say except for the odd (brilliant) scenes of fighting, it's mostly torture that counts towards violence, so if you like that Save the Green Planet is worth a look, and if you like the fighting violence of it definitely check out A Bittersweet Life.

For plain whack violence- Assault on Precinct 13 and shooting the kid in cold blood, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre for the unrelenting nature of violence directed to Marilyn Burns, also Urotsukidoji for crazy monster rape.

On subject of sexual violence there's A Clockwork Orange but Irreversible is waaay up there and i'd almost put it as my answer.


I'm sure i'm forgetting some gems of sado-masochistic delight and such but can't remember them, got a film at the back of my head that has RAW violence, not glorified or cinematic violence but actually difficult to watch, though it's eluding me.

emir 09-09-07 05:27 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
It depends on what you consider 'very violent' is: if it's many people getting killed or hurt, Commando or any other Schwarzenegger action movie; if it's a lot of blood, Kill Bill; and if it's reality in depicting violent acts, then Irreversible or,more mainstream, History of Violence

Pyro Tramp 09-09-07 05:34 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
I LOVE A History Violence but it's nowhere near 'most violent' in anything. Neither is Kill Bill], i assume it's Vol 1 people are citing and if so i seriously urge you to see some real Japanese samurai, if you don't want to jump onto Lone Wolf and Cub go for Kitano's recen Zatoichi which is miles better then Kill Bill.

emir 09-09-07 06:13 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Originally Posted by Pyro Tramp (Post 383409)
I LOVE A History Violence but it's nowhere near 'most violent' in anything. Neither is Kill Bill], i assume it's Vol 1 people are citing and if so i seriously urge you to see some real Japanese samurai, if you don't want to jump onto Lone Wolf and Cub go for Kitano's recen Zatoichi which is miles better then Kill Bill.
Zatoichi is better than Kill Bill, but it's much less bloody. Zatoichi is more of a drama, andviolent parts are obviously CGI enhanced on purpose, because Kitano didn't want them to be too disturbing. History of Violence depicts violence much more realistic then most mainstream movies.

Pyro Tramp 09-09-07 06:31 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
Originally Posted by emir (Post 383411)
Zatoichi is better than Kill Bill, but it's much less bloody. Zatoichi is more of a drama, andviolent parts are obviously CGI enhanced on purpose, because Kitano didn't want them to be too disturbing. History of Violence depicts violence much more realistic then most mainstream movies.
Don't know if i'd agree that Kill Bill is much more bloody then Zatoichi but regardless, the violence is on the same par and done far better by Kitano then Quention Who-can-i-copy-tino.

I know what you mean about History of Violence depicting violence as if it were to happen to an everyday man, and in the film's context, the violent scenes it stand out, which is the point, but if you put it alongside something else, it's not that violent.

m0dern_pr0phet 09-10-07 10:50 AM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
When I think of violence I instantly think of anime because you can get away with a lot of gratuitous scenes. I haven't been fortunate to watch many but Ninja scroll and Fist of the North Star come to mind.

B-card 09-10-07 02:22 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
I remember Irreversible was pretty violent
http://z.about.com/d/worldfilm/1/0/U/V/irreversible.jpg

come to think of it a guy's face was smashed with a fire extinguisher and camera didn't even move or later the 15 min rape of Monica Bellucci damn this movie still shocks me when I even think of it

Ichi The Killer that one too it was pretty messy what he can do with the shoe

steven73 09-10-07 03:38 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
the hills have eyes part 1.

snoutointment 09-10-07 04:17 PM

Re: The most violent movie I've ever seen is...
 
"Hard Boiled"
"Man Bites Dog"
"Fight Club"
"Goodfellas"
All violent. All brilliant.


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