MoFo Fantasy Baseball - 2020 Season
 

The thread.

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Starting early this year:

https://twitter.com/Chandler_Rome/st...70830254862342

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Video chat draft was pretty damned fun. Must do again next season!

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For sure, that was great. Easy for anyone with a mic/cam and Gmail, too.

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So who drafted Verlander?

:this_guy_left: This guy :this_guy_right:

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Think he’ll miss a lot of time? He’s on the record as saying it doesn’t “feel” as bad as 2015. But still....lat strain....

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Normally I'd say no, but since I have him...yes. :laugh:

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That’s how it goes haha!
Oh well, plenty of pitchers to pick up the slack. Assuming you drafted them well enough

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Yeah, I've got a decent selection. I dunno about weathering the loss of a bona fide ace, but we'll see.

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So, this happened:

"Willie Calhoun sustained a fractured jaw after being hit in the face by a pitch during Sunday's Cactus League game."

It begins...

Luckily, looks like it could have been much worse. He will clearly miss some time, but at least be is going to be OK. Yikes!

https://i.imgur.com/kdH6LCb.jpg?1

Didn't mention this when it happened but needless to say I'm kind of happy about it and I didn't want to jinx him by drafting him. Superstition in baseball? Pffft! They are saying Braun had a lot to do with Yeli signing. Thank you Ryan, you choche. Best thing you've ever done. Now, all Yeli needs to do is continue doing what he's doing on/off the field, don't drink or eat anything Braun gives you or use his doctors and, if you do, don't blame it on the UPS driver and you shall have a statue next to Robin and Hank in 15 years. This is just a hair below the Reggie White signing in terms of statewide WOW factor (nothing will ever top that one). Have to think the Players Union isn't too happy or his agent.

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It's nothing close to the White signing....

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My waiver pick of Tommy LaStella hopefully will pay dividends. He was one of the top 2B last year until he broke his leg with a foul ball. Was it him being streaky? No. He adjusted his swing just like that J.D. Martinez guy did.

Aaron Civale was pitching like a boss the few games he started last year too.

Hopefully I haven jinxed them both by posting this.

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With the NBA suspending their season and NHL expected to follow as well, things aren’t looking good for sports in general.

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Yeah, both the MLB season and my softball season are starting in just weeks, and it's starting to feel like neither's going to go ahead on time. :(

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I hope they don't cancel the baseball season. If they go ahead with it and require attendants in the stadiums to wear gloves and face masks, who knows, it might invigorate some interest in the sport again. I feel this is more Hysteria, influenza kills more people than the Coronavirus.

There's almost no chance of this happening. Delay, however, and even a moderate shortening, is quite likely.

I don't want to derail this thread, but comparisons to the seasonal flu don't really make sense as a means of evaluating the seriousness. There's more in the Coronavirus thread, though, if anyone wants to learn more and/or discuss the non-sporting implications.

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Right, Baseball will probably be delayed and shortened as a result.
It’s also looking likely that The NCAA tournament will be canceled. 🙁

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They're suspending spring training

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bos...outputType=amp

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Yeah, no surprise.

At this point I'm thinking we'll get a 144-game season or something, like we did in 1995.

Opening day delayed at least 2 weeks, Spring Training outright canceled

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-2020-season-delayed

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So sad. I spend most of fall and all winter waiting for baseball and softball. :(

Yeah. Wonder if worst case scenario is they'd play in empty stadiums so we could watch on TV. I know the Ray's would be willing to since they always have.

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MLB.com is providing a free stream of 1 classic game for each baseball team

https://www.mlb.com/news/classic-mlb...o-watch-online

PBS Streaming Ken Burns’ ‘Baseball’ for Free Amid Delayed MLB Season

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-n...eaming-967564/

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The 2 part episode of the 10th Inning was especially good in its covering of the steroid era.


Still remember Bob Costas telling of the "B Rated Movie" story.

A very considerate, generous, and human act.

MLB clubs pledge $30 million for ballpark employees
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-clubs-p...park-employees

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Obviously the situation is fluid, but Yahoo's saying the season, for now, will start on May 20th.

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Poor Raul...

Chris Sale to Undergo Tommy John Surgery

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I think a lot of players who are on the fence about losing time to surgery are gonna go ahead and do it now, knowing it'll only be costing them a fraction of a season now, if that.

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Am I reading it wrong? Doesn't it say the season starts May 7? May not matter. I'm having some serious doubts that the season is gonna start at all.

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The other notice I saw said May 21st, I think? I dunno. But yes, that seems like the absolute earliest.

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If the season doesn't happen, we can take turns playing video game versions of baseball, recording each players stats as we play.

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Noah Syndergaard from the Mets has also opted for Tommy John surgery. I think you were right on the mark about this.
So, who has Syndergaard?

Mike Trouts message to baseball fans. I think I like this guy.


https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-...day-2020-video

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It is so weird how there is nothing going on. I've heard a few different scenarios on ways the season might happen. One even had all the teams moving to Arizona and playing a shortened season in isolation with no fans. Sounds like a great film but the logistics of that in today's craziness would make it difficult to say the least.

Yahoo Fantasy Baseball League page is saying the season officially starts June 11th, .........really?! I sure hope so.

Bad news....

https://www.si.com/mlb/video/2020/06...-game-proposal

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Man, looked like we were getting close to a season for a second. Now, not so much.

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I think it'll still happen. I'd expect an announcement by the end of the month, games sometime in July. But we'll see.

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I say just wait for next Spring at this point for baseball. Almost 3 months lost and it never began anyways.

Basketball hopefully coming back though

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I'll take any baseball I can get, personally. Anyway:

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...22921172271113

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Any word on if the owners are gonna pay up?

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Nice!

Do you think they’ll accept this proposal?

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Yeah, the players were ready to just last week. I heard that the owners were balking at the full salary thing. Seems like they backed off that tho. I was kinda hoping to hear about a decision tonight but maybe tomorrow?

I do. This or something close.

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And I say that the players already shot it down. Pffft.

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Still think/hope this is the last little bit of back and forth. We'll see.

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Hope so. Am a little surprised to that they plan to play in empty stadiums. That makes no sense. And isn't even realistic. There's gonna be people other than players at the stadium while games are being played. Not to mention that if you tell people they can't go inside then people will just mill around outside the place. Seems like they should consider the fans. Maybe thats part of the hold up?

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Well, it'll be a) way fewer players and b) people under their payroll who are probably going to be roughly 20 times more diligent about following safety protocols than random fans will be, so I think there'd still be a huge difference in terms of spread.

I think the idea, beyond that, is that there's still plenty of money in the broadcasts (especially now, when people have so few options) relative to ticket sales, and that playing something resembling a season is sort of an investment in keeping baseball in people's minds and showing that it can soldier forward, as opposed to the disillusionment that they'll have to contend with otherwise. Baseball, in particular, benefits a lot from that consistency. That James Earle Jones speech actually tapped into something profound about baseball that makes it feel a lot stranger and sadder when it's not being played in the summer, relative to other sports.

Yeah, it makes total sense to play in empty stadiums, where the 6 feet rule couldn’t be applied and it would be more difficult to make sure all fans adhered to safety protocols.
As for the deal, well.....Time is running out, and they want to save their season they will have to reach an agreement To salvage it.

Looks like it was rejected by Manfred earlier. I don’t think this season will happen guys.

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I don't know this Manfred guy. So far, I don't like him... Not one bit.

Maybe social media can being this season to life after all, maybe.


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ons-back-track

A 60 game season perhaps...


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...lan-union-says

60 game season shot down earlier.

If they can't cowboy up to at least do a 60 game season then there wont be one at all. Pathetic.

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It's the other way: the players want more than 60, and the owners want 60. I don't think there's any risk of going below 60, unless negotiations take too long, of course.

The games aren't the only factor, anyway. Liability issues seem to be a big thing.

Yeah, I mentioned previously that time is running out. It’s almost July, after all.
I imagine Yoda is staring forlornly at his fantasy team thinking “I coulda been a contender!”

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Yeah, especially after I got hosed by the timing of that Verlander injury. Now it's fine again!

Everyone who drafted injured guys at a discount made out huge, though, potentially. Except for the one or two who decided to use 2020 to get a surgery done and over with.

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And the season is saved at the 11th hour.

We all know the real reason for the hold up was negotiating how many HBP are allowed against the Astros per game.

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I'm so confused. I thought they just shut down spring training again?

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Ok, I get it. The players show solidarity and to get their full salary. Which the owners agreed to in march. Now the owners don't wanna pay for a whole season. So they drag their feet on when the season starts, probably betting on covid killing the season. The owners will win again.

Aw hell I dont know what's going on :( I live at my job now and have 0 free time to haunt the news updates and, hopefully soon, the waiver wire.


Whoever wins this possible season should not have an asterisk by their name in the record book. Anybody else want to take a turn at giving the winner $200?! :) What a great way to thumb our nose at that damn Corona death spore.

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Whoever wins, instead of a trophy I'll give the money to a food bank! Unless it's me in which case I'll do both. :laugh:

By the way, last night I had a dream that Giancarlo Stanton was on my team and I was excited because I drafted him cheap due to injury, and then they said he wouldn't be ready for the July start anyway.

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If there is a season are we all down to roll with the teams we have? I am. And I'd echo what Chris said and donate money to a charity or something. I'm saving my money right now so no bets for me.

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Yeah, I like to manage the way Beane said he came at each year: the first third is to see what you have, the second third is to get what you need, the last third you just play, basically. Doesn't really work this year. :laugh:

You know some rando players are just gonna go on third-of-a-season-streak and win a bunch of leagues for people. Think of all the crappy players who were good for 40-50 games, or even the okay ones that were historically good for that period of time. Gonna be nuts.

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Man the mariners have fallen off the map. Has anyone checked? Are they still an official major league team?

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Actually, did you see that Jon Bois documentary about them? It's soooo good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pkVu6Kw00M

Six parts, here's the full playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Mg1IOqAn15RkUT

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Yeah, I think I have seen most of that. I mean, i was a much bigger fan during some pretty dark years. They finally just wore me out. It really started with Randy Johnson. Their bungling and unwillingness to pay him was and is to this day their biggest mistake. They had a real contender here and the best pitcher in baseball. Instead of paying him they made him a villain and even tried to claim he a bad back. Now we have gone back the beginning. Maybe one decent player and mostly farm team guys. Sad face.

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The documentary's just a few months old, FWIW, though if you saw something similar before it might have been his other stuff. Anyway, it's tremendous.

Yeah, I remember all the Johnson stuff. TBF, it's still kinda shocking how guys like that had their best years after leaving. Clemens, Schilling, too.

Ah! Ball talk is back, Yes! I'm ok with my team and I honestly think with 100 less games for the season that anybody could win it this year, anybody. Should be fun :)


Neat article on ESPN on which teams may have the advantage with a 60 game season....


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...60-game-season

And not trade Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb, but that's ancient history.

Yeah, I watch a lot of YouTube. I've seen a good portion of that already. It is very good and even stranger to have been a fan of the team for so long.Hes been putting that out in parts for a little while now. I also lived thru all of this stuff in real time at the dawn of sports talk radio. Its actually a little surprising to me how closely I followed them. All that Griffey stuff is true and at the time it wasnt a secret. He didnt like the media but he would do exclusive interviews with certain people. If his father hadn't of come to town for a few years I'm convinced Griffey would have killed himself. And because of that I've never. Not one time bad mouthed him for going home.



Bah... now I'm all emotional again.

The 1990s Mariners made the 13 coolest MLB Teams Of All-Time list


https://www.mlb.com/news/coolest-baseball-teams

That is all.

Until the virus hits most of the teams and the season is forced to shut down yet again....
*runs away*
😜

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Trout is talking about skipping the season. If a few big names decide to bag the season, I think this thing gets canceled for real this time. Definitely. Maybe. I think.

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Already have one of my best players isolating due to covid. Should be an interesting juggling act this year. Is it possible to expand the IL a few spots? Might come in handy.

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Yeah, the default Yahoo league is doing that and I'll do the same. One extra? Two? I'm open-minded. I'll add one right now for sure, though.

This is gonna be weird, somebody's gonna win the league because of some dude who plays the half-season of his life, I guess. Oh well, better than nothing.

I got 3 players that are suspected to have Covid 19, Urquidy-Glasnow-Meadows. Even though the seasons a small one I feel winning it will actually be more of an accomplishment than normal.


The more DL, IR, or whatever they're called the better.

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I added a fourth slot. I'd kinda like to add another bench slot but I feel less cool doing that "unilaterally" (or even under the, "I'm doing it, complain after and we'll talk" standard).

So for now, four IL slots, but if it's a DISASTER I might make a judgment call and add a fifth, hopefully only if it's so obviously needed that no one will object even midseason.

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Hi All! I hope you're all doing well.

Chris/League -- Assuming we indeed have an MLB season this year, can we consider any kind of compensation pick for managers losing possible opt-out players? In my other league, we're planning to do a sort of offline draft where people can choose from the undrafted players (and the LM is doing the drop/add).

For full disclosure, I have one player who has opted out (David Price) and another very likely opt out (Carlos Carrasco).

Just so nobody will make any excuses later we can just redraft altogether.

I might have 3 out but I'd be ok with either.

I'm willing to consider this if somebody has a good idea about how to handle it. I wouldn't imagine just getting first pick of free agents (which I assume is what you mean by "undrafted players"?) is much compensation, but that's more than fine with me.

I'd be okay rolling those owners to the top of the waiver list to start, too.

I wonder how much of a headache this will be for you, Yoda. Having to manage all of these opt outs

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Hopefully not very, if it's just free agents and waiver stuff that should be easy, I think.

I'll just be thrilled to be watching baseball, work or no.

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I think either option would be fine. Maybe just the waiver reordering if only a few drafted players are lost, and maybe a short offline draft if it's a higher number.

For the latter, assuming that the LM can manually edit rosters and you don't mind doing so, the managers losing players to opt out do a quick draft based on the draft picks lost to opt out. So, if the 50th overall pick is the highest drafted player to opt out, that manager gets the first pick, and so on. Maybe we just set a deadline, like a few days before the season starts to do it.

I'd only be open to a full redraft only if lots of players drop out, particularly those drafted in the first few rounds of our draft.

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Is there a running list anywhere of the players that have opted out?

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Yeah, I can edit rosters, so I'm fine with you guys doing an informal offline draft and just mirroring that. But since those guys are all FA and you could grab them whenever I think bumping you to the top of the waiver order is more valuable (I'd be fine with both, though).

I agree a redraft probably only makes sense with a lot of drops of big names. Though I also think there's very little daylight between "enough big drops to want to redraft" and "enough big drops that MLB cancels the season."

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...f-2020-season/

Price is the most significant player opting out so far. Not sure if anybody in our league drafted Ian Desmond or Mike Leake, but they're the next two as of now.

Mmm, yeah, free agency is probably better. I guess maybe a quick, mini draft could be useful if there's a mass opt out in the next week.

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Totally fine with giving up waiver priority, seems legit. Anyone watching the livestreams of the teams working out? It's weird.

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No, but maybe I should. I wonder what watching the games will be like with no crowd noise? Japan has their own solution: https://observer.com/2020/07/japanes...oftbank-hawks/

Well for one thing, you’ll be able to hear the Astros staff banging on the garbage can much more clearer.