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So, you guessed it, Im watching the last few episodes of The Walking Dead, and they wont shut up. :mad: I cant even mock it by calling it The Talking Dead because theres a talk show called that, so Ill call it The Whining Dead.

Negan got wussified to the point of unrecognizability, frickin Judiths dialogue is more manly than his now. Everyones constant self realizations, and philosophies, This is a PG13 version of The Thin Red Line, and that movie sucked too. I just want it to end. I refuse to watch any of the spinoffs that are planned after this, and its just my pigheadedness that has kept me going to the bitter end of The Whining Dead.

I cant be alone on this opinion, and am curious what other series may have inspired the same reaction with you? LOST was getting there due to hokey overload, but never hit this level of predictable neverending mediocrity.

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Stranger Things Season 4 dragged in my opinion. 2 Hours and 30 minute long last episode!

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I gave up on The Walking Dead a few seasons back - not for any particular reason... except most of the original characters were gone and stories started to seem like rehashes of earlier stories, and the fact that they started making "sister" series which predictably would intersect with the main series. I mostly stopped because I don't like to be tied to "follow" anything on TV that I have to commit an evening to each week.

I'm most disappointed to hear about Negan - I never got to his story in the comics and he was the most interesting new character on the show - I was interested in how things would go once he was defeated and became a prisoner of the main group.

When is the last episode scheduled? I was kind of toying with the idea of just watching the last episode just to see how it ended (even though I probably wouldn't know most of the characters at this point).

I've come to a point of being much more comfortable just walking away from shows. I used to be a completist, but these days I almost get anxious about where they are going to take the characters and plots.

For example, I enjoyed the first season of The Leftovers (not great, but solid and compelling enough) and I'm going to think hard about whether or not I want to watch any more. I might just be content to leave it where it is.

For me it's almost like not watching sequels to a movie that I like. I can see each season as its own thing instead of as one big clump.

When I heard they wrapping up The Walking Dead I figured it was past time. It was showing it's age even before Andrew Lincoln left. I thought it would get better when they got a new showrunner and it showed a little improvement for like half a season. But then it went right back to being a snoozefest. But then once again I thought they would pull out all the stops for the final sprint to the finish and it's been more of the same. They're limping their way to the finale. It's kind of like the horse you had such high hopes for and it comes in dead last. You have to stand there and watch till it crosses the finish line.

It's weird though that I stopped watching Lost around the time of Penny's ship with every intention of going back and getting caught up. But that just never happened. No overriding reason or big decision on my part. It's just the way it turned out. I don't know if I'll ever finish it up.

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I'm still hanging on till the bitter end, too, Tongo. Mostly out of spite at this point. :D I can't see how this series is going to, like, wrap up completely and feel like a good, solid ending. I mean, they're STILL doing the get-to-a-new-town/situation-and-deal-with-evil-leaders crap. STILL. And somehow, HORDES of walkers still show up in huge groups just at the worst time possible. WHERE are all these hordes coming from? You'd think any survivor groups by this point would have taken care of most of them (we're talking, like, ten years post-trauma by now), and they're now diligent about people who currently die.

So, the walkers now feel like deus ex machina whenever it's needed. The show's more about personal and group politics and they just throw in a few zombie murders here and there to remind you of the show title. And, I GET IT that this is precisely what might happen after a societal collapse--rebuilding society with all its faults, all over again--but they've done that just about EVERY season now, with every encampment they've encountered. It's really old.

So how do you wrap up a series that is still doing this? Anywhere you plop our original group of "heroes" is going to leave us wondering, "Yes, but what bad thing happens NEXT?"

So, will it even feel like an ending?
And why do I even care anymore?

Ha! You're right about that. I haven't watched The Walking Dead, but I'm watching two docuseries-- one about possible extraterrestrial occurrences, and another about searching for treasure on an Alaskan island. They're both dragging, and they keep going over the same material. Not only that but they recap every 30 minute segment.

Still, the tendency is to hang on and hope for the best...:rolleyes:

Mrs America starring Cate Blanchett...as good as Blanchett was (and she's always good), this series just dragged on and on and on to the point where I couldn't finish it. I think I stopped watching around ep 4.

So true of today's reality docu-series (or whatever you want to call them)...

When they come back from commercial, they show you footage of what they already aired before the commercial as a sort of recap.
Before they go to the next commercial, they show you a preview of what you'll see after the commercial.

If you take all the commercials and add all the repeated material (recaps & previews) within the show itself... out of an hour-long program you end up with about 20 minutes of actual content - most of which is repeated in recaps or seen again after previews.

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True dat..what Doc and Cap said. I can't stand 60 minute documentaries that show you 22 minutes of footage over and over again.

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From what I see on the Internet... right now, the air date for the Walking Dead finale is scheduled for November 20, 2022 (on AMC).

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My parents liked The Walking Dead in the first couple seasons then they said it got stupid and they stopped watching it. I watched season 1 of Picard but it was so lame I won't watch the new season.

Lesson for the day: Stop watching if you ain't enjoying it. Boycott it's ass back to the stone age!

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The only reason I started watching TWD is a guy at work loaned me several of the graphic novels (I think it was the first 3 or 4 - each collecting several issues of the comics). He just handed them to me (after I told him I wasn't really into black & white comics or horror stories) and said "You HAVE to read these!"

During the following week, I was late for work almost every day because I literally could not put the books down and had to keep reading them late into the night. My manager at the time spoke to me about my tardiness, but then I got permission from the owner of the books to pass them onto our manager as I finished them... and then (true story) she started showing up late for work and whispering to me that it was because she couldn't stop reading The Walking Dead comics almost all night long!

I won't say the show lived up to the source material, but it was pretty darn close (as far as the addictive engagement factor, and most of the casting, acting, effects & technical aspects were top notch).

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I've not seen The Walking Dead myself, but you make it sound pretty darn good:D The only series I've watched is The Crown, which I enjoyed mostly. I just heard there's a 5th season of it so I'll be watching that.

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I used to watch Walking Dead but i stopped several seasons ago as i got bored of it. It was about the time when they met the guy with the pet Lion/Tiger that i bowed out and haven't had the inclination to watch anymore. I've seen a an episode or two of Picard and refuse to watch them vandalise the characters that we knew so well from TNG. Likewise I've seen two seasons of Discovery but refuse to watch any more of that show and am amazed it keeps getting renewed.

All I know is they've been heavily advertising the "Walking Dead Universe" featuring 3 new entries, TWD: Dead City, a Daryl Dixon one and a Rick and Michonne series. This is on top of Fear the Walking Dead, The Walking Dead: World Beyond (which I can only hope was a one off) and Tales of the Walking Dead (which had maybe one and a half passable episodes out of six). With this much invested it's likely the finale of TWD will be just like Austruck says. Kind of a half-hearted (and half assed) farewell.

Even if that show is just 26 episodes long, with each ep being sub-half an hour...?

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Anyway, regarding the thread topic, I'd say Dexter definitely outlived its lifespan as a good show, and it probably should've ended at least two seasons earlier than it did, if not earlier than that.

I need those precious half hours to watch works of art like Galaxy of Terror. (It's a movie about a crew of people in space and a buxom female character has her shirt ripped off unnecessarily and . . . hey, wait a minute.)

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I've lost interest in Doctor Who and Murdoch Mysteries. I used to love them, but now I can't be bothered. They've both lost their luster. Doctor Who will, of course, never end, but I'd love a conclusion to Murdoch Mysteries. Sleepy Hollow ended but I felt like season two ended the story well enough to finish the whole series so I haven't had the enthusiasm to finish the second half.

"The Goldbergs" and "The Conners" are both series that I've been watching mostly for nostalgia reasons.

I'm not even sure why I'm still watching them, but both shows have gotten so bad that I wish they would just cancel them already.

Season 6 will be the final season for The Handmaid’s Tale. I will watch season 6, but this show has to come to the end!!!

Im starting to feel this way with Brittania too. At first I thought it fresh, then it became fun, and now its just outright contrived with no sense of direction or depth. This last season was bad and its most nonsensical level was the final. I dont even know if Ill watch the next season, sad cause theres some good talent involved in the show. Except for Sophie Okonedo who delivered the worst performance of her life this last season.

Here we go.....finally. I honestly hope the show somehow ends with a bang. It had some memorable moments and times.

Almost over now. I'll wait to say more, but having read this an hour into the finale, I had to laugh. :D

It actually could have been worse. The wrap-up wasn't all that bad. I hope others weigh in.

Agreed. It at least felt like an ending, though I was skeptical when the episode started since so much was still flying around in midair.

What did you make of ...

I watched just because it was the finale - I missed the last few seasons so was pretty much lost story-wise.

I never knew what happened to Rick or Michonne (as they apparently disappeared during the seasons I missed) so I didn't get the ending either.

I kept thinking (hoping?) for some surprise or cataclysmic ending - like someone dies and doesn't turn into a walker, or all the walkers just "drop dead"... something like Hitchcock's "The Birds" where it's just over with no explanation... or something really stupid; like Satan (played by Al Pacino) comes out of the ground and says, "Haven't you realized yet? Your so-called Earth ended years ago. You're all dead and this is Hell!" ;)

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They kinda had to show us Rick and Michonne in this finale, since there is apparently some sort of spinoff with the two of them coming up in the future. There is also a Daryl spinoff coming so we knew he'd have to live till the end. In an earlier season Rick had been plucked off the ground by a helicopter that had something to do with the "garbage people" who lived in a sort of landfill area. (I forget the details.) Michonne left later (after having a kid with Rick) to go find him.

I too was thinking maybe someone would die and not turn into a walker.

Frankly, though, although they did hint at the tail end that a few more years had passed and all was peaceful, we also know that they've come upon many settlements like this (only smaller) and have always had to fight some sort of apocalyptic dystopian bad-guy taking the law and government into his/her own hands. So why wouldn't that keep happening? I suppose we're supposed to think THIS was like a real city in size and makeup... but they never really presented us with a HUGE city, despite having heard someone toss out a number like "50,000 people" here or there.

Also, sure, Daryl rode off into the sunset... with no provisions, no gas can, no bed roll, no nothing. That's ridiculous. How far is he going to get before he runs out of gas? Where is ANYONE getting gas at this point? Maybe it's a solar-powered bike. :D

*SPOILERS AHEAD* (In case there's anyone who still gives a sh*t.)

So they kill off Dan Fogler who had the smallest of roles before he and his even lesser known girlfriend sort of disappear. They basically write them out by having them go hang out with the Oceanside (not to be confused with the Riverbend) people. The only reason I know this is from Googling it because I was 90% sure it was Riverside. Anyway, he and his girlfriend show up out of nowhere literally wandering around in the woods. I guess the writers figured "It's the series finale. We have kill off someone. Anyone." That was the problem towards the end. Way too many characters. Way too many. The Rosita death was handled okay I guess. I suppose she fell right on that razor's edge of a character whose death would carry some weight without actually killing off one of the more prominent ones.

"How were you killed off Rosita? By a walker? Governor Milton's men? "In a fire?"
"No, death by algorithm."

But it did turn out to be less cringey than I thought it would be but also a half measure ending because of all the sequels and spinoffs to come. Fans of the show (are there any left?) should be happy I suppose. And yes, I grudgingly admit that I'll check out the new shows. I did quit on Fear the Walking Dead though.

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Did Rick ever lose his hand in the TV series (as he did in the comics)? I thought they might have that happen right before he left the show.
I understand why they didn't do it early on... because it would be very expensive & a hassle to CGI his hand out of every shot.

No, he never did. Aaron lost a hand, and they just always had him wearing some sort of steampunk prosthetic. One cool one, though, was the mace. Bad-ass thing that came in handy (no pun intended) numerous times. So, no CGI needed.

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I also bailed on Fear the Walking Dead, though I've caught an episode or two by accident here and there. :D

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I bailed on The Walking Dead after the first Negan season. Things just seemed to be getting more ridiculous. And they killed Steve twice. Seriously? I watched one season of Fear the Walking Dead. I was done and never looked back.

I was under the impression that they merged the two shows (or at least I saw ads with "Morgan" either joining or guest starring on Fear the Walking Dead).

I had thought from the introduction of an offshoot series that they'd make it like Steven King's The Stand (where all the individuals or groups eventually come together) by having the shows cross over.

Seems like these are going the other way: splitting off from the main series. Morgan left TWD a few seasons ago, just walked away, and ended up finding the cast of FTWD on the West Coast. :)

Actually I think Morgan walked from Virginia where he reunited with Rick and his group after they left Georgia. By that time the people from FTWD had left California and were traveling east and were in Texas. But that's still a helluva long way to walk.

I mostly stopped watching FTWD because of that annoying family. They killed off the mother and the Johnny Depp looking junkie son. But then they also killed off Cliff Curtis who was probably the best thing about the show. They kept Colman Domingo's character Victor Strand who I liked. And they gave the annoying sister a makeover turning her into a badass. I'm assuming because I had walked away by that time. Lennie James is a good actor but then they brought back the annoying mom played by Kim Dickens. It's such a mixed bag that I'm not going to bother going back to catch up. It's not worth it.

Thanks for the corrections. I wasn't watching the show closely enough to remember those details. :)

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The ending of The Walking Dead was way overdue. The show was already sputtering around season 4 or 5, with good episodes being more scarce, few and apart. I remember giving up around that time, but forced myself to catch up when Negan was about to show, mostly because they hyped the hell out of those episodes. I kinda dug the finale when he was introduced, and the next episode when they killed Mr. Fan Favorite... but after that, it became the same tired, tedious, and boring drag. One of my biggest issues is how they treated characters like Carol and Morgan, who had neat arcs, but then the writers didn't seem to know what to do and whiplashed them back and forth. I think I gave up at the end of that season with Negan. Season 8, I think.

Fear the Walking Dead, I didn't even finish season 2. A complete drag as well. Haven't bothered with any of the other spin-offs.

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Anyway, to the original question, I think writers and showrunners should realize that stretching a show to 10-20 seasons rarely works. If you want to stick with the same small group of characters, there's only a limited amount of places you can take them before it feels like a cheat, and if you want to add new characters on the way to "revamp" things, it rarely works. Somewhere between 4 and 6 seasons should be the limit.

It's all good. And it's not something I'm particularly proud of. Like showing someone your collection of stuffed squirrels that you've posed in historical dioramas. Anyway I knew the parts from TWD but once it moved over into FTWD territory I had to look it up because I quit on the show right before Lennie James joined it.

And to anyone who thought Morgan's long walk was hard to swallow the Daryl Dixon spinoff is supposed to take place in France. I kid you not.

Oh, good grief.

The writing was downright schizophrenic at times. Was Carol a shellshocked, grieving mother? Or was she an efficient, cold blooded killer? Was she going to bake cookies or pull an Of Mice and Men moment and get you to look at the pretty flowers before putting one in your brainpan? And Morgan was either a burnt out husk of a man and crazier than a sh*thouse rat or a combination of Dutch Uncle and sensei? Good times.

When will those be available for viewing, WHIT?

Heh. Right now I'm working on my magnum opus, a meticulously rendered Jonestown Massacre.

Ah, I saw that movie... but didn't remember the line! :D

Still, I'd like to see squirrels signing the Declaration of Independence!

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And he gets there via motorcycle! ;)

I actually was thinking they were gonna kill off Carol. That would have gotten peoples attention, and she wasnt going forward with the Darryl series. Im just glad its over, and in no way will be watching any of the spinoffs.

Michonne and Rick were babbling like idiots, and then all of a sudden shes sitting there in her Black Panther getup and just put on the wig. Of course her charging thousands of walkers....:rolleyes: Dumbest. Horse. Ever. It was a trite finale, and the show lost its balls years ago. If Rosita hadnt popped back up in that horde like Popeye eating his spinach, and her and the baby be devoured, and everyone not scheduled for a spinoff be ripped apart and eaten, and none of which done in some over dramatized contrived romantic nonsense - Oh Im sorry, I thought this was a zombie apocalypse?! 'Climbing and picking up rocks to break glass' :yawn: If you want to scare the hell out of your audience just make the zombies learn how to run & sprint. I guess it then would have been The Running Dead. Meh

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I kept thinking the subtle ending would be Rosita dying and not turning... and everyone being like, "Huh??? She didn't turn!"
(And then it's over because somewhere M. Night Shyamalan declared that the plants were no longer angry.) ;)

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