Dune (Denis Villeneuve, 2021)
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/le...rt-1201923648/
"Legendary Entertainment has acquired the rights from the Frank Herbert estate for his iconic novel "Dune" granting the production entity the film and television motion picture rights to the work. The agreement calls for the development and production of possible film and TV projects for a global audience. The projects would be produced by Thomas Tull, Mary Parent and Cale Boyter, with Brian Herbert, Byron Merritt and Kim Herbert serving as executive producers." |
Originally Posted by MonnoM (Post 1609787)
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/le...rt-1201923648/
"Legendary Entertainment has acquired the rights from the Frank Herbert estate for his iconic novel "Dune" granting the production entity the film and television motion picture rights to the work. The agreement calls for the development and production of possible film and TV projects for a global audience. The projects would be produced by Thomas Tull, Mary Parent and Cale Boyter, with Brian Herbert, Byron Merritt and Kim Herbert serving as executive producers." |
Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 1609820)
... I believe the best way of doing Dune again would be to split it, Lord of the Rings style, into three films corresponding to the book's three sections.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1609823)
What would you call the three sections in Dune?
Dune Muad'Dib The Prophet |
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I see I thought you meant to split the novel Dune into three movies.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1609831)
I see I thought you meant to split the novel Dune into three movies.
Or, bring back Intermission :p. |
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Apparently Denis Villeneuve is interested in this. As he quickly became one of my favorites I fully endorse him as the director.
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1610113)
Apparently Denis Villeneuve is interested in this. As he quickly became one of my favorites I fully endorse him as the director.
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Let's see if this turns out better than Lynch's Dune. I doubt it because Lynch's Dune is a classic though of so-bad-its-great.
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It's very deep and layered. I wouldn't mind it as a big budget mini series but I doubt that would bring in the $ they could make some epic action scenes and introduce a rich new universe. I haven't sen the movie. Read the first book last year, quite good.
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Originally Posted by Larry (Post 1611693)
It's very deep and layered. I wouldn't mind it as a big budget mini series but I doubt that would bring in the $ they could make some epic action scenes and introduce a rich new universe. I haven't sen the movie. Read the first book last year, quite good.
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I'm not opposed to this idea. It needs an updated adaptation.
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This guy is going to eventually going to get too exhausted, he's been really busy. I still have not watched a single one of his movies.
Is the original Dune worth watching? I know the main consensus is no from most, but Lynch, right? There's gotta be something redeemable there. |
Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1635693)
This guy is going to eventually going to get too exhausted, he's been really busy. I still have not watched a single one of his movies.
Is the original Dune worth watching? I know the main consensus is no from most, but Lynch, right? There's gotta be something redeemable there. It's one of those films you've got to be in the mood for. You've got to be in a David Lynch mood to make it to the end. |
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Wow that man is on fire
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Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1635693)
This guy is going to eventually going to get too exhausted, he's been really busy. I still have not watched a single one of his movies.
Is the original Dune worth watching? I know the main consensus is no from most, but Lynch, right? There's gotta be something redeemable there. |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1635727)
Yes it's worth watching...but only the original theatrical release which is 137 minutes. Avoid the longer extended version which adds in some boring long scenes, while cutting out the more potent David Lynch scenes.
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Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1635750)
That's what I was worried about. I figured maybe since it was such a big franchise film Lynch might've lost a bit of creative control, since his name didn't nearly have the same pull it had before Blue Velvet, and Twin Peaks.
David Lynch (13 January 2006) : "Dune I didn't have final cut on. It's the only film I've made where I didn't have it...
In those days the maximum length they figured I could have is two hours and seventeen minutes, and that's what the film is, so they wouldn't lose a screening a day, so once again it's money talking and not for the film at all and so it was like compacted and it hurt it... There is no other version. There's more stuff, but even that is putrefied."
Upon completion, the rough cut without post-production effects ran over four hours long. David Lynch's intended cut of the film was almost three hours long. However, Universal and the film's financiers expected a standard, two-hour cut of the film. To reduce the run time, Dino De Laurentiis, his daughter 'Raffaella De Laurentiis, and Lynch excised numerous scenes, filmed new scenes that simplified or concentrated plot elements, and added voice-over narrations, plus a new introduction by Virginia Madsen.
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That's too bad. I don't know why anyone would give Lynch the task of doing a studio picture after watching Eraserhead, though, were they really expecting he'd easily take all of their barking orders?
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Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1635766)
I don't know why anyone would give Lynch the task of doing a studio picture after watching Eraserhead
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Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1635766)
That's too bad. I don't know why anyone would give Lynch the task of doing a studio picture after watching Eraserhead, though, were they really expecting he'd easily take all of their barking orders?
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I think it's his visual style in things like Eraserhead and The Elephant Man. I think they saw something there that they connected to the dream, and purely visual, sequences that would be required in Dune and they were right on the money.
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Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 1635781)
I don't think that giving Lynch Dune after Eraserhead is any different than giving Jackson Lord of the Rings after Braindead, or Sam Raimi Spider-man after the Evil Dead trilogy though. It seems to be a trend haha.
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New DUNE movie/series to happen. Your thoughts?
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To this day, Lynch's version is my favorite. I couldn't care less for the TV series. The CGI was all sorts of crappy, the Guild portrayal was cringe worthy. Seriously, just look at this!!
http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/dunese_09.jpg The Baron on Lynch's version is way more menacing then the one on the Tv Series as well, as he should be. |
Originally Posted by Little Devil (Post 1641332)
Originally Posted by Little Devil (Post 1641368)
To this day, Lynch's version is my favorite. I couldn't care less for the TV series. The CGI was all sorts of crappy, the Guild portrayal was cringe worthy. Seriously, just look at this!!
http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/dunese_09.jpg The Baron on Lynch's version is way more menacing then the one on the Tv Series as well, as he should be. |
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Oh cool. I loved the book when I was a kid but not so much the movie ap art from the score. From memory the acting was dreadful.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1641569)
Thanks for posting that! Interesting that there had been other Directors before Dennis Villenuve took over. I wonder how commented he is to the project?
Yea! Another unabashed fan of Lynch's Dune:) I love Lynch's Dune, I know it's story is abbreviated but he wasn't allowed to make a 4 hour movie. I though his sets, art direction, directorial style, casting, everything was well done. So many people complaining that his version is nothing like the book. Well, I'm glad it isn't 100% faithful to it and he cut all unimportant stuff out [and included some delicious ones of his]. Great movie, great score, great acting. |
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Little Devil you might want to check out my review of Dune. My review explains more in detail of why I think many don't like the movie, yet I do like it.
My Dune review |
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Everyone’s new fave, Timothée Chalamet, is in talks to play Paul Atreides.
https://deadline.com/2018/07/timothe...rt-1202427315/ |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1641612)
Little Devil you might want to check out my review of Dune. My review explains more in detail of why I think many don't like the movie, yet I do like it.
My Dune review memory slips. Here is a better telling of the same story I forgot I posted here before! https://www.movieforums.com/communit...highlight=dune As I typed that, I feel that I may have posted this somewhere else in these forums. Oh well. |
Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 1924318)
....As I typed that, I feel that I may have posted this somewhere else in these forums. Oh well.
Have you seen Dune (1984) many times? Have you seen both the theatrical cut and the extended (but also edited) version? If so do you have a preference? |
Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 1924318)
I remember in high school I had dad rent this because I just knew he would appreciate its depth. Halfway in my half sister passed out. Then the step sister. The the step mom left and went on to bed, leaving only my dad and I, together. I knew this movie would finally end our estranged relationship and bring us, finally, together with Dune as our binding element. When it ended, he turned to me and said, "That was the stupidest movie I've ever seen!" Then belted this "raaaaaah" in disbelief that he sat through it all. John Wick worked. That dog he says... |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1924321)
You have! but...it's a well written post and I enjoyed reading it again:)
Have you seen Dune (1984) many times? Have you seen both the theatrical cut and the extended (but also edited) version? If so do you have a preference? I promise I did try to find it before posting!! I have seen the theatrical many times. It used to play on HBO during summer days out of school and I was watch it every chance I could. It has been a few years now since I've seen it but I'm definitely tempted to pull it up again now. I have a *cough* digital copy *cough* of some extended version. It looks like a rough draft with several introductory illustrated stills that cycle during narration. Place-holders, if you will, as if they intended to return and fill in the holes but never did. While that was very awkward, expecting a finished product, I did enjoy the additional information that it provided. As I remember it at least. Been a few years, as I noted. Hell, now that I think about it that may have been last year when I first joined this place. I may have only just learned about an alternate version from these forums and found it from there. hmmmm..... |
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FOUND IT!!!! lol ugh.
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Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1924324)
That dad pain is real doe :goof: . I can't tell you how often I have tried to figure out the random stuff (like any of us watch) he watches and swear I've found something...
John Wick worked. That dog he says... |
didn't Denis villeneue learn anything from blade runner 2049 bomb ?
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To take the opportunity to make a challenging film he’s passionate about!
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1924613)
To take the opportunity to make a challenging film he’s passionate about!
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Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 1924709)
a bomb is a bomb is a bomb...it doesnt matter how good the movie is...the stink of bomb will last for atleast decade
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Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 1924710)
What odd logic. So the movie can be a 10/10 masterpiece but because the box office sales were disappointing, the Director will have learned nothing?
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Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 1924714)
its show business..not just show...so the director couldn't connect with lot of people otherwise it would have been a success...i felt it was way too slow
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Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 1924716)
So he learnt nothing through this process? Is that what you're saying?
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Hope it turns out good, a big budget tv miniseries would be better imo.
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1946539)
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Dave Bautista is Glossu Rabban.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/d...ot-1203101834/ Edit: might be Glossu. Probably is. |
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better leave the classic of 1984 alone.
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nah
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1980049)
Dave Bautista is Glossu Rabban.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/d...ot-1203101834/ Edit: might be Glossu. Probably is. |
Yeah, they’ll probably skew casting consistency under the pretext of “space so who cares.”
Making the Bar(r)on Trump is easy but also fun. :D |
Originally Posted by rambond (Post 1980145)
better leave the classic of 1984 alone.
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Skarsgard the elder to play The Baron.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/am...s-dune-1174870 Might as well get Bill for Feyd. |
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1980711)
Skarsgard the elder to play The Baron.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/am...s-dune-1174870 Might as well get Bill for Feyd. |
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Just give him Gary Oldman’s fat suit.
And, yeah, he’s got a thing that makes him float. |
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1981116)
Just give him Gary Oldman’s fat suit.
And, yeah, he’s got a thing that makes him float. |
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Seems a bit young but yeah, he's definitely good casting. Charlotte Rampling will be good as Gaius Helen Mohiam too.
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Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 1986446)
Seems a bit young but yeah, he's definitely good casting.
Spoiler Warning for People Who Haven’t Read the Book or Seen the Previous Film.
WARNING: spoilers below
Having Leto killed in what would, to new audiences, at least, appear to be his prime could add further poignancy, I think.
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True.
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Javier Bardem is Stilgar, Zendaya is possible Chani.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...t-dune-1181942 |
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1987026)
Javier Bardem is Stilgar, Zendaya is possible Chani.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...t-dune-1181942 |
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It occured to me when X-Men: Apocalypse was on this week that Oscar Isaac and Max von Sydow are – I think – the only actors who've been in both Dune and Star Wars. Of course Dune was a massive influence on Star Wars anyway, and I even remember the novelisation of The Empire Strikes Back reading like Frank Herbert at times.
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Not familiar with Dune. But just read up on it a bit. Seems like an interesting idea/source material. And I trust the director to do it justice. But this sounds like it would be a better tv series then movie. Has a lot of ideas and characters apparently. Feels like a GOTs type deal. Feels like Showtime could have used this to answer GOTs. oh well.
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Originally Posted by MovieBuffering (Post 2022938)
Not familiar with Dune. But just read up on it a bit. Seems like an interesting idea/source material. And I trust the director to do it justice. But this sounds like it would be a better tv series then movie. Has a lot of ideas and characters apparently. Feels like a GOTs type deal. Feels like Showtime could have used this to answer GOTs. oh well.
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Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 2022974)
There've been two TV miniseries, which covered the first three books. Very good – amazing, jawdropping sets that I couldn't believe I was watching.
But I have faith in Villeneuve. Specially after what he did with Blade Runner. |
Originally Posted by MovieBuffering (Post 2023898)
Well again I am not familiar with the source material but a summary felt like GOTs type characters and story size.If that's the case Showtime dropped the ball. They should be looking for something sprawling, epic, rich story telling like GOTs.
But I have faith in Villeneuve. Specially after what he did with Blade Runner. |
I was reading yesterday something about a character possibly being changed to a woman for this version. It makes absolutely no sense to do that so I was pretty irritated. I'm still wondering why quite pivotal roles like Feyd and the Emperor haven't had their actors announced yet.
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Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 2030014)
I was reading yesterday something about a character possibly being changed to a woman for this version. It makes absolutely no sense to do that so I was pretty irritated. I'm still wondering why quite pivotal roles like Feyd and the Emperor haven't had their actors announced yet.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2030021)
:mad: I hate that PC BS of changing male characters into female, especially when the film is based on a much beloved and famous novel. However I have no problem if they take existing female characters and pump up their on screen time. How about much more about story on Jessica and her connections to the Bene Gesserit. There's plenty of potential female characters in the Bene Gesserit order.
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Its Kynes isn't it? that doesn't seem to make much sense to me if..
WARNING: spoilers below
They keep her as a kind of informal ruler of the Fremen unless they change their society from being male dominated politically with the women dominating the spiritual. Could be I spose they remove that aspect and make the character a bit more of a basic giver of exposition.
As said I wouldn't mind seeing more of Jessica action wise but...
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Still have her keep her abilities a secret playing into the Bene Gesserit as a shadowy organisation. I mean that actually has a bit more substance to it if you want the film to have a feminist bent to it rather than just having a female asskicker character
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I caught some of the news on the new film this weekend, so I fired up the 1984 version, which I hadn't seen in a few years. I have both the original theatrical cut, as well as the Alan Smithee extended cut. I started watching thew extended, but about an hour in, I decided I just don't like that version very much. A ton of ham-fisted exposition, and a crap edit make watching this version kind of annoying.
Since I have read the book and I understand all the world building and backstory, all that extra exposition is just unnecessary. The theatrical cut, while flawed, absolutely nails the tone, and I like most of the character play. Some of the effects, while rough even in 1984, look pretty bad today, I still like Lynch's flawed film for what it is. Even with the PC stuff starting to trickle out, I trust Denis Villeneuve to do a faithful adaptation of the book to the best of his ability. That said, I maintain that Dune is perhaps one of the hardest science fiction books to adapt to screen, due to its narrative and structural complexities. As for the cat, I like what I see so far. https://cdn3-www.comingsoon.net/asse...-solo-lede.jpg |
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My most anticipated movie in ages. I’m still probably not going to risk the theater going, though.
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A trailer for ...a trailer?
Wuuuuuut? |
I'd love to see the original on the big screen. I'd buy tickets for the next 10 folks in line just to join me.
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From what I can gather... it'll be landing in about 60-90 minutes.
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Man the Tremors reboot looks intense.
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That.
Gave. Me. Shivers. |
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It's super cool, but man, are there gonna be jokes about how that looks.
It'll be the, uh, butt of many jokes. |
This looks dull....gonna bomb like blade runner 2049
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Josh Brolin? Yes please. :D
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Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 2123324)
This looks dull....gonna bomb like blade runner 2049
Villeneuve hasn't made a bad movie yet either. |
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2123322)
It's super cool, but man, are there gonna be jokes about how that looks.
It'll be the, uh, butt of many jokes. |
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One thing I have to say, breaking MoFo's language rules... the cast is ****ing amazing.
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Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 2123327)
Mulholland Drive, Children Of Men, Donnie Darko, Sunshine, Dredd, The Shawshank Redemption and Fight Club all bombed as well, so... yeah.
Villeneuve hasn't made a bad movie yet either. |
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I'll summarize that for everyone else:
He's psychologically profiled Villeneuve and everything he does or doesn't do will be shoehorned into that profile somehow. |
Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 2123331)
One thing I have to say, breaking MoFo's language rules... the cast is ****ing amazing.
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Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 2123332)
There is something off in his directorial efforts, especially the big budget would be blockbusters that never end up being one like blade runner 2049....they need a flow and a pace that merits their budget and intended wide appeal and he is not able to deliver on those fronts...even godfather had a pace and flow that made it an instant classic...but blade runner 2049 was slow and dull. Not a bad movie doesn't mean it's a great movie...not a bad movie means director tried his best not to make a bad movie by covering all the bases that could it make it stale and unoriginal. It is different than having the golden touch to make a great memorable movie. All his movies except sicario lack kinetic propulsive forward momentum even sicario became run of the mill and generic by the end and that will kill a movie in blockbuster arena. Dune looks dull as well.
Alien, BR, both slow burners... and took years to become recognised. In time, the same will be said with Villeneuve. I mean, did you want Prisoners to be a Taken clone? Or Arrival to be another Independence Day? BR2049 being slow is kinda the point. Like with Ridley's Blade Runner, you have to watch it, and realise that not every sci-fi movie needs to be Star Wars Episode 2. |
Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 2123335)
not to pick on every one of your points but doesn't the cast look second rate ?
It's fairly odd (and seemingly totally unexamined) that you place so much emphasis on this stuff, but it's downright bizarre that you just project this emphasis onto everyone else, as if it hasn't even occurred to you that anybody might feel differently. |
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I just like the implication that casting Mark Wahlberg in this would automatically improve it.
Anyway, I'm still hype and that's a good trailer. Even the stereotypical trailer cover is good. |
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 2123338)
I just like the implication that casting Mark Wahlberg in this would automatically improve it.
Anyway, I'm still hype and that's a good trailer. Even the stereotypical trailer cover is good. |
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Forget it, Rodent. It's aronisred.
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Why all the hate on BR2049 in here? :confused:
Also, where can I get some rocks? |
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