God Returns to MoFo! ~ Why You Should Believe in God
 

Re: God Returns to MoFo! ~ Why You Should Believe in God
 

Define God (might as well get off on the right foot).

Umm. >_> Uhhh...

Yes. That is what people do. They define God.

Re: God Returns to MoFo! ~ Why You Should Believe in God
 

God is the supreme being.

I say that he must necessarily exist because all matter and energy in the universe deteriorates and thus can not be eternal but must have been created, and the only way for anything to exist at all is for someone to have eternally existed by infinite supernatural power beyond all known dimensions and philosophical ideology and by extension of that omniscience be able to create ex nihilo.

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Also God speaks for himself, so I have irrefutable proof that he exists, however that proof is not something that God gives to ignorant scoffers until after they die and it's too late. God is not out to prove anything to anyone. It's us who must discover the truth or perish. Life is not a game, it has eternal consequences.

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Which God do we believe in?


The one that is causing all the crap in the world right now, or the one who is letting it happen?

Loaded question and false dilemma; the one who despite the presence of evil works all things towards the greater good.

Oh, no. Not you, too. I thought you believed in God.

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It's refutable in that case.

Re: God Returns to MoFo! ~ Why You Should Believe in God
 

Why do people mistake leniency, mercy, and patience for approval?

Re: God Returns to MoFo! ~ Why You Should Believe in God
 

I believe God exists. I know God exists.


But I have a very Bohemian outlook on It. Yes, It, not Him (or Her, or Them).


God is something we will never understand, or can even comprehend, so the word "it" is probably the only description that can be accurately given.


God made Man in His image? That's pretty vain from our perspective tbh.


To have any sort of idea of what I believe in, you'll need to research all this:


Panentheism
Prisca Theologia
Perennial Philosophy
Henotheism
Kathenotheism
Monolatrism
Cosmological Argument
Inductive Reasoning
Ex Nihilo Nihil Fit
Dogma
Natural Theology
Neoplatonism
Platonism and platonism
Hermeticism
Esotericism
Divination
The All
Umoved Mover
Nous


There's no genuinely accurate word for what I believe, but Panentheism is about as close as I can get without going into super long paragraphs of boring detail.

*pats on the head* Okay little one, now run along and play with your toys. The adults are talking. :p ;)

If you have any idea what you believe, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to put into simple terms. My conclusion is therefore that you have no idea what you believe other than that God exists in very vague terms.

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Along with that list above, to understand my standpoint on God, you'll also have to read the texts of all major religions as well.
From the Bible to the Qur'an to the Dhammapada, the Guru Granth Sahib and the Tanakh.


You'll notice one major factor, give or take a couple ideals, they're all exactly the same, which is why I've studied in-depth all of the founding factors of religion in general, rather than just dogmatically following an actual religion.


There's only 2 religions/religious-beliefs that I think are total nonsense... Mormonism, and Scientology.

Ok, God and the Universe, is like a kid with an Ant Farm.


Simple.

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I can understand this thought process if you are taking a very human analytical look at religion. I would like to get your thoughts on grace though. In my opinion it is what sets Christianity apart in a very real way and ultimately a way that fulfills you in a way that is hard to describe.

His thoughts on Grace will probably be, "go research ______."

I'm sorry, not trying to be mean. I just couldn't resist.

You're on about Divine Grace? I don't think it exists, and if it does, it's for the very, very few.


I think God is appreciative of being worshipped, but being worshipped is not it's ultimate goal.
Like a kid and his ants, he created a world for them to live, couple sheets of glass, added some soil and some leaves and some sugary stuff, gives them a place by the window for sunlight, and he sits back and watches then do their thing.
Occasionally intervening when something goes awry, but generally just sits and enjoys watching his creation do its thing.


If the ants were all totally tied up with worshipping the kid rather than gathering leaves and making their a better place, then the kid would be sitting there bored by not seeing what the ants are capable of.