The Green Knight
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Greek? Is he smashing plates and downing uzo like a mutha?
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You have fairly and proportionately savaged me for a typographical error.
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This looks like it could go a little too A24 for my liking, but I'm going to stay optimistic.
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Directed by a very consistently excellent director as well!
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Another trailer, different in tone than the last one. Man, this looks amazing:
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Really looking forward to this!!
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to be honest this looks like a cheap movie. If your goal is to make a period epic then stick to it and spend 100 million to recreate the world and dont be a penny pincher. Instead, from the looks of it, this looks like a decently produced TV movie that has huge anticipation among ardant film fans and literally no one else.
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Once again, higher budget =/= higher quality.
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Doesn't look cheap to me at all. Looks cleverly stylized to account for <whatever the budget is>.
Lucky for me I'm able to watch films for aesthetic and narrative pleasure, rather than like an actuary. Makes them so much easier to appreciate and enjoy. |
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I mean, all you have to do is look at the list of most expensive films ever made and ask yourself how many of these films are genuinely good-looking. On Stranger Tides is the most expensive movie ever made and it's an ugly grey mess.
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Good thing there’s an actual plot to judge it on, as well as acting, direction, script etc. Films aren’t judged solely on whether they look “cheap” or “ugly”, after all.
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Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 2204341)
to be honest this looks like a cheap movie. If your goal is to make a period epic then stick to it and spend 100 million to recreate the world and dont be a penny pincher. Instead, from the looks of it, this looks like a decently produced TV movie that has huge anticipation among ardant film fans and literally no one else.
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I dunno I kinda see what he's saying. I saw "Starry Night" in person once and the paint didn't look expensive. You could see all these ugly brushstrokes too.
Christian Bale wasn't in it, either. |
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Love to be told about the importance of high budgets and broad audience appeal by the user who took his avatar from a $7m R-rated horror-comedy about a serial killer.
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Woah...didnt see this attack coming.......color pallette can only get you so far. From the trailer, the movie is promising an epic adventure and neither the studio making the movie nor the actors in it can get the kind of budget that could do justice to the story the trailer is promising. There is a certain tangible reality that a 100 million $ budget could get that indie tiny movies can't. No matter how many greens/blue color filters are used. It's just not the same.
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I mean, this isn't exactly the first time you've tried to arbitrarily argue for or against a given film's innate quality based on how much it (presumably) costs or how famous its cast members are. I already took into account the matter of "tangible reality" when I listed the most expensive movies and how many of them end up being bland and weightless precisely because the extra cost tends to result in them being overly micro-managed for profit. In any case, there's only so much any of us can glean from a couple of trailers so we're still only guessing at how epic a story this is really going to be - outside of the giants, it looks like a fairly grounded exercise in medieval fantasy so I doubt it'll really demand a triple-figure budget anyway. Besides, a comparatively low budget is not necessarily a limit on imagination either - does Pan's Labyrinth become less impressive just because it was made for $19m?
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Most blockbusters don't look or feel real at all, but are incredibly expensive. I'd say there's very little correlation there. We are well, well past the point in cinema technology where you need a large budget to make these kinds of things look real, particularly in the hands of a skilled filmmaker who knows their constraints and is prepared to operate within them.
But what's the point of talking about it? We know from past discussions that you've elected (you frame it as a neutral stance, but it's really just a choice) to view everything through this prism, and I have no reason to believe the 30th time it's pointed out is the one that will be acknowledged. Moreover, nothing in that trailer looks bad or fake to me. It all looks believable, or at least as believable as dark fantasy can be. If it somehow looks bad to you, that means we're at an immediate impasse, and one I'm happy assuming is based on the same slanted foundation as all the other interactions have been. |
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Really looks good.....
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My acquaintance's brother is the Director of Photography, and while she and her husband were on vacation in Ireland they got to visit the set and watch a scene get filmed and I am very jealous.
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Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2211177)
My acquaintance's brother is the Director of Photography, and while she and her husband were on vacation in Ireland they got to visit the set and watch a scene get filmed and I am very jealous.
Do you know where in Ireland Takoma? |
Originally Posted by the samoan lawyer (Post 2211533)
Do you know where in Ireland Takoma?
Would you like me to ask for more specifics? (You live in Ireland, right?) |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2211638)
I don't! They just said "Filmed in Ireland where we visited the set a few years ago." They also said they visited the location where the "ultimate encounter" takes place.
Would you like me to ask for more specifics? (You live in Ireland, right?) Hey, sorry late reply Takoma. It would be cool to know but certainly dont go out of your way.Yep, im in Ireland, although up North |
Originally Posted by the samoan lawyer (Post 2213297)
Hey, sorry late reply Takoma. It would be cool to know but certainly dont go out of your way.Yep, im in Ireland, although up North
The other one is Cahir Castle in County Tipperary. As one of the best preserved medieval castles in Ireland, filming The Green Knight at Cahir Castle was a natural choice. But I am happy to harass my person for more details. I don't think he'll mind. |
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I hear you get a discount if you only use props that were dropped once
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Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2213339)
Well, Google says this: There are two Green Knight filming locations in Ireland. One is Ardmore Studios in Bray, County Wicklow, where principal photography began in March 2019.
The other one is Cahir Castle in County Tipperary. As one of the best preserved medieval castles in Ireland, filming The Green Knight at Cahir Castle was a natural choice. But I am happy to harass my person for more details. I don't think he'll mind. lol nah thats cool Takoma, was just interested to find out where. Thanks for letting me know. Looking forward to the film release even if not a fan of Patel. |
Man, I’m really looking forward to this. This comes out in a few weeks and I plan on hitting it at my local Regal.
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Oh my, looks like we got a hot one! Move aside pig.
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I’m here for the dissenting views :suspicious:
The characters and such from the lore being present, without needing to address them, was something I can appreciate. It’s a film I will enjoy discussing more than I did watching. |
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Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 2225354)
I’m here for the dissenting views :suspicious:
The characters and such from the lore being present, without needing to address them, was something I can appreciate. It’s a film I will enjoy discussing more than I did watching. You already seen it?!?!?! |
Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 2225388)
You already seen it?!?!?!
Pig didn’t happen and I wasn’t gonna take a chance missing this. |
I think this might be the first movie I go to see in the theatre since the pandemic.
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It zonked me. Fell asleep 3 or 4 times. Pretty sure the girls behind me at the theater were poking me awake. I snore.
I will watch it again when it hits home theaters, and then we’ll see if I really do like the movie or was just riding a sugar high. |
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'Twas very good.
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2225739)
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I can come to terms with a lot of the stuff, but not the original choice. Short of setting the whole story in motion, there is no rational for doing this.
Wait a sec. Is Gawain really Riggs? Okay. Suicidal tendencies work here. |
This movie was amazing. Amazing I say!
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Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2226118)
This movie was amazing. Amazing I say!
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If you can't see The Green Knight in a theater, you can stream it at home next Wednesday, 8/18.
Here's A24's website for more details. |
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That's awesome news, thanks for posting it! I am 100% doing that.
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Holy crap, $20?!
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I assume you mean it's too much, but I was pleasantly surprised by the price, since it just came out in theaters.
Interesting experiment, simulating an actual movie screening and all that with a narrow time window. Gotta hope it does well if only so we see more of this. |
Sitting in a rainy parking lot now trying to decide if I want to go in.
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You mean you were about to see this in theaters and maybe now you'll just wait to see it at home?
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2228811)
You mean you were about to see this in theaters and maybe now you'll just wait to see it at home?
No'sir. Deciding if I wanted to get out in the rain now for a near two-hour runtime on a work night.
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$20 for a limited window stream is ridiculous. That price tag is the embodiment of greed.
We’ve got industry disrupting technology, a shift in the marketplace, and the Lords are wringing a dry sponge for a $20. I got $5 on it. Not $20. |
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We went to a theater. I sorta liked it, but the level of medieval wierdness (the original poem is just as weird) sorta went past me. I felt like I'd like to see it again but I'd probably wait until I could stream it for less than a live theater price. Before then, I will brush up on the 14th century anonymous medieval romance, which was a fictionalized version of a peripheral character in the story of a king (Arthur) who was probably not medieval, if he existed at all, but may have been the last of the Romans, translated into a story for 800 years later. The one thing they all have in common is a big, scary green knight.
Maybe next time for Gawain. |
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I guess it comes down to whether you compare it to a streaming rental, or actual movie tickets.
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I'm still willing to pay ticket value for the experience of a theatrical viewing. I admit sitting in a theater is near a religious experience for me, though. Even with the mobile screens and constant kneeing from the guy in the row behind me, there's just something therapeutic about a cathedral-housed silver screen.
As to the movie tonight, I loved it. It's stylized and has a bit of humor to it. I don't mean comedy! But subtle winks here and there to balance the dark journey. Gorgeous use of light, color, composition, long shots and framing transitions, and a beautifully odd score. It was long, but I only became aware of its length maybe twice. I feel that under different circumstances (and a different audience), I likely would not have noticed. I don't remember details of this story from my old English lit. class some 20+ years ago so I can't speak to where it stays on or drifts off course, but what I experienced was near perfect to what I expected. I think if you accept the odd and the pacing presented in the trailer, then you should be good. A second viewing may degrade my opinion but considering I usually don't like movies on the first watch, I'm taking that as a positive. Maybe if you put The VVITCH, The Fountain, parts of Ravenous, and bit of Silence through a blender, what comes out might be a cousin to The Green Knight. I can dig it. |
Originally Posted by Swan (Post 2226108)
'Twas very good.
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Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 2228885)
I'm still willing to pay ticket value for the experience of a theatrical viewing. I admit sitting in a theater is near a religious experience for me, though. Even with the mobile screens and constant kneeing from the guy in the row behind me, there's just something therapeutic about a cathedral-housed silver screen.
As to the movie tonight, I loved it. It's stylized and has a bit of humor to it. I don't mean comedy! But subtle winks here and there to balance the dark journey. Gorgeous use of light, color, composition, long shots and framing transitions, and a beautifully odd score. It was long, but I only became aware of its length maybe twice. I feel that under different circumstances (and a different audience), I likely would not have noticed. I don't remember details of this story from my old English lit. class some 20+ years ago so I can't speak to where it stays on or drifts off course, but what I experienced was near perfect to what I expected. I think if you accept the odd and the pacing presented in the trailer, then you should be good. A second viewing may degrade my opinion but considering I usually don't like movies on the first watch, I'm taking that as a positive. Maybe if you put The VVITCH, The Fountain, parts of Ravenous, and bit of Silence through a blender, what comes out might be a cousin to The Green Knight. I can dig it. I loved the production and filming of the movie and, I'd guess that the script writers thought that they really had to reduce some of the seriously weird medieval elements of the original material. I can recall reading the original a long time ago and speculating that the unknown author must have had some of that rye bread with the ergot growing on it (produces something like LSD). Once we had a talking fox in the movie, I knew that hallucinogens must have been involved. I don't know if the fox was in the original text. The whole environment of the original and the movie is strange, given the uncertainty of anything about an actual King Arthur. Generally, in regard to scenery, building, armor and costumes, movies place him someplace after the 13th century, but if there even was such a person, he would have lived far earlier than that. A Dark Ages, Sub-Roman version of the story (the likely historical setting) would be more amenable to all of the magical elements of the plot, including talking foxes and wizards that hadn't been burnt by the church, which plays a fairly peripheral role in the old story. Anyway, being a fan of that sort of movie, I definitely want to see it again. From what popped up on my ad stream in Google, apparently on Aug 18, there will be a "one-time" streaming event. |
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So, good news/bad news.
Good news: The Green Knight will be generally available for streaming this Thursday, August 19th. Bad news: that strongly suggests the whole "digital screening" thing did not go well in advance sales. Speaking of which, people who bought an advance ticket BEFORE they announced general streaming right after got kinda screwed. I was/am one of them, though I emailed them and they agreed to refund it (even though the site says no refunds). My guess is they tried the screening thing as an experiment, didn't get many advance sales, then decided to just have it stream a mere 2-3 weeks after the theater release. At least they're doing right by the people who bought the advance tickets, though. |
I saw it in the cinema, and you really appreciate its cinematography more on the big screen.
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^agree.
This is one of those few recent movies that I think truly deserves to be experienced on the big screen. Too, it's really dark in some sections and the larger size may help in seeing details that might get lost on a smaller television. That's probably not worth it if one would rather stream it, but I have to say last Christmas I was able to catch Alien in theater and it blew me away. Even having seen that one a few dozen times over my life. So there's something to be said for that experience. If you can catch it at an unusual day/hour and maybe luck out and be the only one there? Wow. That should be a treat. If I knew ANYONE local would want to see this, I'd buy their ticket just to have an excuse to go again. EDIT Facebook is kind of beating it to hell and back. I've seen a few adverts for like AMC for this showing and the 40-odd users that comment are complaining. One out of every 10 or more gives it praise with that random kat telling everyone they're not smart enough to appreciate it. sigh. I'm not sure what people expect given the trailer. |
I’ve seen this a few times, most recently last night. I really like it - not among my favourites (yet), but I like it better each time. I was reading around last night and came across an interpretation that suggests
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Morgana orchestrates the whole thing to give her son the “purpose”/honourable conquest he craves. There are certain elements which I think support this reading, such as the Lady being a more appropriate version of Essel that Gawain could conceivably marry (obv. both being Alicia) etc. I tend to see the reading as quite convincing and valid, if not inevitable. However to me that also takes the “fun” out of the whole thing as it almost makes the “adventure” self-defeating if he was never in real danger, never likely to die and so on? Hence even the Lord of the castle says with confidence that he knows Gawain will come back alive etc. Doesn’t that mean that unlike Odysseus, he never has any agency and that there are no stakes?
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There’s too much that I didn’t get about the movie to even answer. There is still no explanation I’ve found on why he would set off on a suicide mission, other than youthful ignorance.
This movie is made for YouTube clips. It didn’t work for me as a whole, but individual scenes are memorable. |
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I don't know how to explain this but the movie looks like a credit card commercial.
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Originally Posted by AgrippinaX (Post 2264052)
I’ve seen this a few times, most recently last night. I really like it - not among my favourites (yet), but I like it better each time. I was reading around last night and came across an interpretation that suggests
WARNING: spoilers below
Morgana orchestrates the whole thing to give her son the “purpose”/honourable conquest he craves. There are certain elements which I think support this reading, such as the Lady being a more appropriate version of Essel that Gawain could conceivably marry (obv. both being Alicia) etc. I tend to see the reading as quite convincing and valid, if not inevitable. However to me that also takes the “fun” out of the whole thing as it almost makes the “adventure” self-defeating if he was never in real danger, never likely to die and so on? Hence even the Lord of the castle says with confidence that he knows Gawain will come back alive etc. Doesn’t that mean that unlike Odysseus, he never has any agency and that there are no stakes?
What do people think?
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Last time I watched this was in the theater maybe the second week of its release so I can't speak to the details. I will offer that even if that interpretation is true, and that Gawain was never truly in danger (it's just a game, after all), and even if we, the audience, immediately pick up on that, Gawain did not know that it was all a game. Even though he was told so from the start. Gawain's challenge is, partly, to face his fear and be honorable by accepting his role that he agreed to with the first blow. I take it that the story is about his acceptance of fate rather than cowardly and selfishly running away from it. I might be able to see through it all as a viewer, but I also have perspective on events in the story that Gawain did not. Regardless, I'm more interested in if he can find a path through it all in spite of his fear of death which apparently at one point was greater than his desire for honor. In the end, it was made clear that it was just a game in the beginning. He just didn't pick up on it.
It's been a long while since I've read The Odyssey, but didn't he survive from divine intervention? Was Odysseus ever truly in risk of death? |
Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 2264178)
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Last time I watched this was in the theater maybe the second week of its release so I can't speak to the details. I will offer that even if that interpretation is true, and that Gawain was never truly in danger (it's just a game, after all), and even if we, the audience, immediately pick up on that, Gawain did not know that it was all a game. Even though he was told so from the start. Gawain's challenge is, partly, to face his fear and be honorable by accepting his role that he agreed to with the first blow. I take it that the story is about his acceptance of fate rather than cowardly and selfishly running away from it. I might be able to see through it all as a viewer, but I also have perspective on events in the story that Gawain did not. Regardless, I'm more interested in if he can find a path through it all in spite of his fear of death which apparently at one point was greater than his desire for honor. In the end, it was made clear that it was just a game in the beginning. He just didn't pick up on it.
It's been a long while since I've read The Odyssey, but didn't he survive from divine intervention? Was Odysseus ever truly in risk of death? I don’t know about risk of “death” per se (he was obviously protected from injury), but he did give a promise to Helen of Troy’s husband to protect her if she were ever in trouble, and when called upon to honour this promise he joined the war - my point being that even if he was obliged to by his honour etc, he wasn’t being forced/compelled to, it was a choice to join. Also nb that Odysseus was offered immortality and rejected it because he wanted to be with his wife - also a choice. |
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