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Matteo 06-30-18 08:45 AM

Stanley Kubrick talks about the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_o82OMlNM

GulfportDoc 06-30-18 01:46 PM

Very interesting, Matteo. Thanks for the clip. A group of us saw it when it came out, and it blew our minds!

I always thought the ending suggested reincarnation. But we have now heard it from the horse's mouth..:)

~Doc

Citizen Rules 06-30-18 02:23 PM

Re: Stanley Kubrick talks about the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
 
I like and respect 2001, but I'll say the same thing about Kubrick's explanation of the film's ending, as I do about Ridley Scott's interpenetration of Decker (Harrison Ford) as a replicant...

And that is: I'll decide what the film's ending means based on my own viewing experience.

I don't need nor want a film maker telling me what to think, that's the film's job, not their's after the fact.

But, due respect to Kubrick, because he didn't really want to talk about the ending of 2001, but was directly asked and so answers to be polite. Where as Scott crams his own ideas down the viewer's throat and call them idiots if they don't see it his way.

Guaporense 06-30-18 02:32 PM

Re: Stanley Kubrick talks about the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
 
Nooo! It ruined the ending. :D

rambond 07-01-18 01:28 AM

Re: Stanley Kubrick talks about the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
 
For me the ending is reincarnation, thats how its been and always was for me, i don t wnt to think otherwise

Saunch 07-01-18 02:04 AM

Cool, so Stan was doing the equivalent of reading off the Wikipedia summary.

As for an actual meaning, actual intent, I’d always read it as something more bitter than most. Something about the previous three hours leering over technological advancements, the film conducting itself in a very left brain kind of way and then having the lead human character revert in form... I don’t know.

The more we go forwards, the more we yearn to go backwards?

lenslady 07-01-18 02:06 AM

I never knew the astronaut was in a zoo. I always had the idea that the astronaut was evolving to another plane of being ( just as the apes who first grasped weapons/tools evolved into humans, early in the film) . The astronaut became a star child- a new life form that would be something beyond human.

For me, this was a flimsy explanation of a brilliantly wrought film with an intellectually murky ( yet visually stunning) ending. Does Kubrick really believe this 'zoo story' ? Or is he pulling our galactic leg?

Saunch 07-01-18 02:12 AM

He describes his setting as similar to a zoo. He is evolving but the aliens (the crystal things that show up in the star gate) are trying to help him in the transition, providing him with an environment that will be comforting, comforting to the aliens’ best understanding of humanity (hence the poor recreation).

They’re trying to anchor his mind and body to something familiar as he transcends.

But, again, that’s just a cold reading of the events. Stan doesn’t spill the beans on any actual message, on any idea he was trying to pass to the audience. I find it incredulous to think it was vague for the sake of just ending the movie, getting passed a narrative wall.

rambond 07-01-18 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1919292)
He describes his setting as similar to a zoo. He is evolving but the aliens (the crystal things that show up in the star gate) are trying to help him in the transition, providing him with an environment that will be comforting, comforting to the aliens’ best understanding of humanity (hence the poor recreation).

They’re trying to anchor his mind and body to something familiar as he transcends.

But, again, that’s just a cold reading of the events. Stan doesn’t spill the beans on any actual message, on any idea he was trying to pass to the audience. I find it incredulous to think it was vague for the sake of just ending the movie, getting passed a narrative wall.
what crystal things, i don t remember those, can u please provide a pic thanks

Citizen Rules 07-01-18 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by lenslady (Post 1919291)
...I always had the idea that the astronaut was evolving to another plane of being ( just as the apes who first grasped weapons/tools evolved into humans, early in the film) . The astronaut became a star child- a new life form that would be something beyond human...
Exactly how I interrupted the film.

Unknown god-like beings have been directing mankind's evolution through the obelisks, until the final evolution into a higher form of consciousness.

The zoo idea?:rolleyes: I think Kubrick watched Star Trek 'The Cage' one too many times.

Captain Steel 07-01-18 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1919420)
Exactly how I interrupted the film.

Unknown god-like beings have been directing mankind's evolution through the obelisks, until the final evolution into a higher form of consciousness.

The zoo idea?:rolleyes: I think Kubrick watched Star Trek 'The Cage' one too many times.
I always thought that the star child at the end was the "baby" Dr. McCoy references at the end of Star Trek The Motion Picture. The baby is what Decker and the "Ilia probe" / V-ger become when they "join" together (even the final color scheme was the same!) ;)

rambond 07-01-18 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 1919425)
I always thought that the star child at the end was the "baby" Dr. McCoy references at the end of Star Trek The Motion Picture. The baby is what Decker and the "Ilia probe" / V-ger become when they "join" together (even the final color scheme was the same!) ;)
Captain steel i was thinking about rewatching the firsr superman from 1978

SuperStar 07-23-18 08:57 AM

Re: Stanley Kubrick talks about the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
 
Thank you very much for this video. It's very interesting to study the creative process with such talanted person as Kubrick.


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