Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
In you personal opinion is the sending of 8 men to their likely deaths a worthy one, considering their mission is to find and save one man who has a high likelihood of already being dead? All seemingly to save the mans mother further anguish following the deaths of her other 3 sons.
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Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
I think Hanks' character summed it up pretty well tbh.
Along the lines of: For every soldier I lose under my command, I save a hundred more. If saving Ryan's life to spare his Mother the anguish of another folded American flag will award me the right to go home, then that's what I'll do. I think the mission is a morality/spiritual mission more than anything. |
He also talks about getting back to his wife. Hanks' fate is actually the only part my wife doesn't like about the film.
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Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
Yes. It's a way for the soldiers to reclaim their humanity in a brutal situation, it's showing kindness to another in a time when killing is more prevalent. The only thing I dislike is when Tom Hanks tells Ryan "Earn this." That was not what the whole story was about. Way to guilt trip a guy, Hanks!
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Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
I'm not sure how it's a morality/spiritual mission, since the enemy was essentially depicted as a blubbering monkey and Spielberg's "every german should die" mentality is off-putting (it's not the 1940s), especially in a situation where he only recognized USA USA USA with a flag at the end (who cares about our allies).
I'm also not sure how it's a way to reclaim humanity. During the whole middle we have to hear about all their past stories, which makes me think "so several sad families is better than Ryan's mother, great." It's just another vehicle for Spielberg sentimentality, there's no point to this mission other than to rip off better movies and make money. |
Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
In real life,probably the death of few borthers wouldn't be even noticed.
But is it a worthy one if it was?I'd say yes,it's a drop of humanity in the war madness. |
Interesting question about which I'm unsure. Ryan's mother would probably say yes.
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 1016222)
I'm not sure how it's a morality/spiritual mission, since the enemy was essentially depicted as a blubbering monkey and Spielberg's "every german should die" mentality is off-putting (it's not the 1940s), especially in a situation where he only recognized USA USA USA with a flag at the end (who cares about our allies).
I'm also not sure how it's a way to reclaim humanity. During the whole middle we have to hear about all their past stories, which makes me think "so several sad families is better than Ryan's mother, great." It's just another vehicle for Spielberg sentimentality, there's no point to this mission other than to rip off better movies and make money. I agree with Rodent, though. |
Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 1016222)
It's just another vehicle for Spielberg sentimentality, there's no point to this mission other than to rip off better movies and make money.
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Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 1015973)
In you personal opinion is the sending of 8 men to their likely deaths a worthy one, considering their mission is to find and save one man who has a high likelihood of already being dead? All seemingly to save the mans mother further anguish following the deaths of her other 3 sons.
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 1016222)
I'm not sure how it's a morality/spiritual mission, since the enemy was essentially depicted as a blubbering monkey and Spielberg's "every german should die" mentality is off-putting (it's not the 1940s), especially in a situation where he only recognized USA USA USA with a flag at the end (who cares about our allies).
I'm also not sure how it's a way to reclaim humanity. During the whole middle we have to hear about all their past stories, which makes me think "so several sad families is better than Ryan's mother, great." It's just another vehicle for Spielberg sentimentality, there's no point to this mission other than to rip off better movies and make money. Agree completely on the rest of your points, though. |
Originally Posted by BlueLion (Post 1016336)
That's your opinion. In my opinion, it's the best war film ever made. So there.
My top 2 warfilms would be Apocalypse Now and Grave of the Fireflies. With Kobayashi, The Human Condition, trilogy, at a 3rd place. |
Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
Also, Wintertriangles seems to have forgotten the opening battle scene, D-Day. It depicted Allied soldiers killing unarmed German men (who had already surrendered) in cold blood.
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Originally Posted by BlueLion (Post 1016336)
That's your opinion. In my opinion, it's the best war film ever made. So there.
Ballad of a Soldier Come and See The Pianist The Third Part of the Night The Thin Red Line City of Life and Death Destiny of a Man The Cranes Are Flying Ivan's Childhood Check-up On the Roads The Human Condition Trilogy A Shop on the High Street The Dawns Here Are Quiet Rome, Open City Ascent Fires on the Plain The Bridge on the River Kwai Paths of Glory Kanał Platoon Diamonds of the Night ... Schindler's List. I don't even think it's Spielberg's best war film. :) |
Re: Is the mission in "Saving Private Ryan" a worthy one?
Well, the title of "best war film ever" is debatable. But one thing's for sure. It has one of the greatest portrayals of D-Day in a movie, ever.
I have been shown the intro sequence TWICE during my school career. That says something, when Social Studies and History teachers resort to it when learning about WWII. |
Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 1016349)
My top 2 warfilms would be Apocalypse Now and Grave of the Fireflies. With Kobayashi, The Human Condition, trilogy, at a 3rd place.
Saving Private Ryan, on the other hand, looked so real that it sent shivers down my spine. It doesn't even look like a film.
Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 1016354)
I don't even think it's Spielberg's best war film. :)
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 1016222)
I'm not sure how it's a morality/spiritual mission, since the enemy was essentially depicted as a blubbering monkey and Spielberg's "every german should die" mentality is off-putting (it's not the 1940s), especially in a situation where he only recognized USA USA USA with a flag at the end (who cares about our allies).
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Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 1016340)
Of course not. It's just a movie script designed to create dramatic effect.
End of discussion. Seriously man, don't be a d*ck. Any movie could be looked at in this mindset, and you might find that to be true, but it's nowhere near an interesting or worthwhile point to bring up. It's just dull and a disrespect to anyone who's put their actual opinions and analyses up. Stop confusing discussion with debate or argument, the point is to fuel interesting conversation, not prove yourself right. |
Tactically probably not. Spiritually and for the sake of the movie absolutely.
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