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Ezrangel 02-24-21 08:30 PM

Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
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Both are known to be action director and for the Batman and Die Hard franchise respectively, which one you like the films better?

Iroquois 02-25-21 12:20 AM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
Whichever one directed Predator.

ironpony 02-25-21 10:53 AM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
I find this to be an odd comparison, it's like asking who is better between James Cameron and Michael Bay :).

Yoda 02-25-21 11:07 AM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
Yeah, I think director comparisons mostly work when they have overt similarities. Otherwise it's more an expression of what types of films someone likes, and therefore is more about the person responding than about the directors.

Ezrangel 02-25-21 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2181688)
I find this to be an odd comparison, it's like asking who is better between James Cameron and Michael Bay :).
The gap between Cameron and Bay is FAR wider, than Nolan and McTiernan...

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2181695)
Yeah, I think director comparisons mostly work when they have overt similarities. Otherwise it's more an expression of what types of films someone likes, and therefore is more about the person responding than about the directors.
Both are action directors, and upon a rewatch of Die Hard: With A Vengance i thought this would be a fair or fun match up.

John W Constantine 02-25-21 01:31 PM

Whichever one directed Last Action Hero

ynwtf 02-25-21 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ezrangel (Post 2181704)
Both are action directors, and upon a rewatch of Die Hard: With A Vengance i thought this would be a fair or fun match up.
so Batman vs Die Hard. You're asking to compare Batman vs Die Hard? I'm reading that as Batman vs Die Hard. I'd go with Die Hard. It's just a far superior Christmas movie.

ironpony 02-25-21 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ezrangel (Post 2181704)
The gap between Cameron and Bay is FAR wider, than Nolan and McTiernan...



Both are action directors, and upon a rewatch of Die Hard: With A Vengance i thought this would be a fair or fun match up.
Oh okay, I thought that Cameron and Bay were both action directors as well, accept for the odd ones like Titantic or Pain and Gain.

Ezrangel 02-25-21 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by ynwtf (Post 2181802)
so Batman vs Die Hard. You're asking to compare Batman vs Die Hard? I'm reading that as Batman vs Die Hard. I'd go with Die Hard. It's just a far superior Christmas movie.
I was just saying that they spawned two impressive franchises.

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2181808)
Oh okay, I thought that Cameron and Bay were both action directors as well, accept for the odd ones like Titantic or Pain and Gain.
Yeah they are but not comparable...

ironpony 02-26-21 01:49 AM

Oh okay, fair enough :). I guess Nolan's movies have deeper themes in them, more than McTeirnan. Perhaps Nolan is willing to have his plots take darker turns?

WARNING: "SPOILER" spoilers below
I mean in the The Dark Knight, the main character's love interest is killed off, where as in Die Hard, she's not.

Dr. Badvibes 02-26-21 07:36 PM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
Die Hard and Predator urinate on everything Nolan has ever done.

Ezrangel 02-27-21 06:47 AM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
Ain't surprising to use hyperbole since you hate TDK lol..

how can something "urinate", i mean you can argue that you like it more lol

Nolan is the better director

Yoda 02-27-21 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Ezrangel (Post 2182337)
how can something "urinate", i mean you can argue that you like it more lol
It's the internet, everybody's afraid their opinion will register as just another opinion (even though that's what it is), so they often toss on some ornate insult to maybe help it stand out. ;)

Or, to be fair, sometimes they're just trying to be funny.

Ezrangel 02-27-21 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2182365)
It's the internet, everybody's afraid their opinion will register as just another opinion (even though that's what it is), so they often toss on some ornate insult to maybe help it stand out. ;)

Or, to be fair, sometimes they're just trying to be funny.
Yeah, but that seems disrespectful like other films are somehow weaker in that sense..

Well, atleast he's not trolling like some do (TDKR being worse than Batman and Robin is what i consider 100% trolling)...

ironpony 02-28-21 02:10 AM

Re: Christopher Nolan vs John McTiernan
 
Well I think Nolan has better movies, but McTiernan is the better director when it comes to staging and editing. I think McTiernan's action scenes are staged and edited much better, even some of his dialogue scenes as well perhaps.

One thing I find kind of annoying about Nolans editing is during action scenes he will cut back and forth between different action scenes constantly, where as I think it would be better if he showed one, then another, then another, instead of cutting. In Interstellar he intercuts constantly between a fight scene and a dialogue scene, for example. This doesn't make Nolan a bad director at all, it's just personal preference.

Ezrangel 02-28-21 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2182591)
Well I think Nolan has better movies, but McTiernan is the better director when it comes to staging and editing. I think McTiernan's action scenes are staged and edited much better, even some of his dialogue scenes as well perhaps.

One thing I find kind of annoying about Nolans editing is during action scenes he will cut back and forth between different action scenes constantly, where as I think it would be better if he showed one, then another, then another, instead of cutting. In Interstellar he intercuts constantly between a fight scene and a dialogue scene, for example. This doesn't make Nolan a bad director at all, it's just personal preference.
McTiernan: better action director

Nolan: better director, coz prestige, memento and inception all have very good editing and also impressive set pieces and storytelling IMO


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