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SuperMetro 12-01-22 03:06 PM

Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
 
Quite surprised with the results. I could not believe that Daisies made it in 28th place, Cleo From 5 to 7 in 14th place, and Jeanne Dielmann in number 1. I was shocked over Jeanne Dielmann winning as it was unexpected, I thought 2001 would win. I was quite happy with this list. And Citizen Kane was at number 3 seems sad after it winning for so many decades and landing number 2 last one.

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time

Wyldesyde19 12-01-22 03:43 PM

Very happy to see some love for Daisies.

I need to see Cleo and Jeanne Dielmann still, but surprised the latter came in at #1.

I should be able to see them this year since I subscribed to the Criterion Channel finally.

Mr Minio 12-01-22 04:08 PM

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The enforcement of the female director policy is quite laughable because while I agree that Jeanne Dielman and Daisies are masterpieces and deserve a spot (whether as high is up to debate), the inclusion of Portrait of a Lady on Fire at #30 is quite laughable. Wanda at #48 is fishy though. I haven't seen that one, though (one of three I haven't seen from the entire list).

I'll have to read more about voting and the rules involved. Still, I find this particular part amusing:

Here are the results of the 2022 poll – the largest ever, with 1,639 critics, programmers, curators, archivists and academics each submitting their top ten ballot.
I'm surprised there are no programming tutorials high on the list.

But yeah, all in all, it's a pretty good list.

Citizen Rules 12-01-22 04:13 PM

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Nice to see love for Daises and Wanda...A link to the list would be nice for this thread.

Mr Minio 12-01-22 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2349984)
Nice to see love for Daises and Wanda...A link to the list would be nice for this thread.
https://letterboxd.com/bfi/list/sigh...s-of-all-time/

seanc 12-01-22 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2349983)
The enforcement of the female director policy is quite laughable
You have any links about this? Can’t find a thing

SpelingError 12-01-22 04:44 PM

Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
 
I've seen 96/100. Haven't seen:

News From Home
Daughters of the Dust
Histoire(s) du cinema (still can't find it anywhere :()
Black Girl

Siddon 12-01-22 05:00 PM

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Well they picked the worst most unwatchable film of all-time as it's number 1 now I can write them off.

Mr Minio 12-01-22 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2349990)
You have any links about this? Can’t find a thing
Not an actual policy, but I sometimes think that people feel they SHOULD include at least one female director on their list just because.

Captain Terror 12-01-22 05:34 PM

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I've only seen 46. What a poseur.

crumbsroom 12-01-22 05:52 PM

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I'm glad to see Dielman at number one. It not only is one of the few films that deserves such a placing, but it should make some people scream in protest, which is always fun (it should still be 2001 though but...whatever...if they haven't gotten that one right by this point they never will)


Glad to see Wanda is there. Glad to see L'Atalante is still hanging in.



As for Get Out....lol. And I say that as someone who thinks its very good but....lol.


Other than that one though, I don't see anything undeserving there (at least of what I've seen, I think there are a small handful I've yet to get around to)

crumbsroom 12-01-22 05:55 PM

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Oh, Touki Bouke...errrrrrrrrr....maybe not that one. But I also should probably give it a second chance.

crumbsroom 12-01-22 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2349992)
Histoire(s) du cinema (still can't find it anywhere :()

I have a hard copy of it that has never worked. Does that help?

SpelingError 12-01-22 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350009)
I have a hard copy of it that has never worked. Does that help?
Godard must really not want me to steal the film :(

I found this boxset recently, so I might get that soon, provided it works in the U.S.:

https://www.amazon.com/Histoire-Du-C.../dp/B005MXQD74

SpelingError 12-01-22 06:06 PM

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Also, I hope they release the full list. I found a top 1000+ list for their 2012 list a while back which I've used a bunch of times.

SpelingError 12-01-22 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350006)
(it should still be 2001 though but...whatever...if they haven't gotten that one right by this point they never will)
I have good news. Check out the director's poll (it was released in tandem with the critics' list):

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time

Overall, it's not too different, but there's a few additional films. Happy to see Come and See represented, for instance. Overall, I think I kind of prefer this one.

ScarletLion 12-01-22 07:01 PM

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It's basically other people's lists. Nobody is gong to like it 100%. I personally think it is quite good in parts, then absolutely ludicrous in others.

'Get Out', which is an average film at best, is now apparently better than:

Lawrence of Arabia
Ran
Raging Bull
Rear Window
Paths of Glory
Come and See
......and every Kieslowski film ever made

Laughable.

It's just another list made by other people. Make your own, it's way more fun.

crumbsroom 12-01-22 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2350015)
I have good news. Check out the director's poll (it was released in tandem with the critics' list):

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time

Overall, it's not too different, but there's a few additional films. Happy to see Come and See represented, for instance. Overall, I think I kind of prefer this one.

I'm honestly fine with both lists, but the director's one is particularly quality.

crumbsroom 12-01-22 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2350024)
It's basically other people's lists. Nobody is gong to like it 100%. I personally think it is quite good in parts, then absolutely ludicrous in others.

'Get Out', which is an average film at best, is now apparently better than:

Lawrence of Arabia
Ran
Raging Bull
Rear Window
Paths of Glory
Come and See
......and every Kieslowski film ever made

Laughable.

It's just another list made by other people. Make your own, it's way more fun.

To me it is less looking at what movies it 'beats', then having to even consider it as being one of the hundred greatest movies of all time. Wizard of Oz should be deserving of this list, but it would be impossible to really compare its greatness to any of the above films because they are so different in their intentions. But Get Out just shouldn't be there in the first place. Like, at all. And I'd hope most fans would agree with this, at least if they aren't completely insane.



Like, I don't want to be an art fascist, but I appeal to have it forcibly removed.

pahaK 12-01-22 08:03 PM

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My Letterboxd says I've seen 30/100, but there are some I haven't marked as watched. It's probably less than 40 still. Three films would be in contention for my top 10 votes, and maybe about ten could make their way to my top 100.

My opinion is that it's not my opinion of the top 100 movies ever.


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