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Pussy Galore 03-03-15 06:01 PM

Afro americans in american cinema
 
I'm doing a huge school work on both the evolution of perception of the afro americans in the american society and in the industry of cinema. I already know what films to talk about when it comes to movies that denounces racism (Guess Who's Coming to Diner, To Kill Mockingbird, Mississipi Burning, The Defiant Ones, etc.) but what I search are movies that without even wanting it have slight racism in them (for example Gone with the Wind, but I search others to). Also, I'd like to find some movies that have a black character as its star, but without having anything to do with the fact that th actor in question is black.


Also, I have a theory and I'd like to see if you agree because I've not seen that many 80's action films. From what I've seen black people are mainly used as a friend or any kind of non important character who ends up dying or being the bad guy. Am i right? If not I'm better to know haha


thank you!

Saturn 03-03-15 08:06 PM

Movies with a black star are fairly common. For example most of the Sidney Poitier movies. One I have is "The Bedford Incident" from 1965.

For movies with a touch of racism perhaps:

Ray (2004) I seem to remember a scene about riding on a bus.

Places In The Heart (1984) The farm assistant providing advise to the owner invited punishment for himself.

Bullitt (1968) The black doctor was not appreciated by Chalmers.

Brubaker (1980) An innocent black prisoner is selected for a public strapping just to show how things are done there.

Pussy Galore 03-03-15 08:11 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
I think I didn't explain it well. I don't mean a film in which it shows racism, but a film that is racist without necessarily wanting it.

VFN 03-03-15 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Pussy Galore (Post 1265019)
I'd like to find some movies that have a black character as its star, but without having anything to do with the fact that the actor in question is black.
Most Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman movies aren't concerned with their color.

Citizen Rules 03-03-15 09:30 PM

but what I search are movies that without even wanting it have slight racism in them (for example Gone with the Wind, but I search others to)
Portraying slavery in a film that's about the civil war is not racist, it's historical. What makes you think Gone with the Wind is slightly racist without trying? There's a difference between modern 'PC think' and racism. That might make a good topic for your class presentation BTW.

You might look at films with Lena Horne. Due to racism in the South, her scenes were cut from many of the movies that she was in, such as the classic Words and Music (1948)

You might look at the first all black movies with positive black characters: Cabin in the Sky (1943) and Stormy Weather (1943)

Pussy Galore 03-03-15 09:49 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
It's more that in 1939 what was normal could be considered racism today not that this movie is specially racist.


And thank you very much for the other information, I didn't know that and I will surely use it!

Camo 03-03-15 09:53 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Citizen meant that what was being portrayed whether it was in 1939 or 2009, was the US Civil War (1861-65) in the South so the depiction of slaves was Historical not Racist whether intentional or otherwise.

WoOdWoRk 03-03-15 10:18 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
You could start with polarizing examples, The first ever feature length movie was Birth of a Nation (1915) and that movie was incredibly racist. Further subsequent movies that used blackface in those times were arguably quite racist - they were choosing a white actor to play a black person over a potential black actor - asinine.

Now we have a trove of extremely talented black actors today. Hell you asked for a movie with a black star that isn't about him being black, well Will Smith in Independence Day.

Pussy Galore 03-03-15 10:22 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Camo: Honestly I've not seen this film yet, I just quoted a YouTube video I've seen to give en example, but I believe you and I'll give you some news after watching it.


And you're right with Independance Day!

The Gunslinger45 03-03-15 10:42 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Thought this was going to be a thread by someone who joined the site just to have us do a homework assignment. Then I saw it was PG needing info. Whom I am happy to help.

If you want films that feature black characters where race was not an issue in casting, I think of when Romero casted Duane Jones to be the lead Ben in Night of the Living Dead. He was not cast for his race, but because he was the best actor.

Also I do not know if this is what you are looking for exactly, but when you asked about Black characters in movies in the 80's being friends and dying in 80's movies that made me think about the actor Albert Popwell. Albert Popwell is an actor who has played supporting and bit roles in the first four Dirty Harry films (and one of my favorite series). In the original Dirty Harry (1971) he was the bank robber who just "Got's to know" after Harry does his 44 Magnum monologue. In the sequel Magnum Force (73) he was a pimp who was killed by the vigilant cops trying to kill Harry. In The Enforcer (76) he is a Black Nationalist who begrudgingly helps Harry find some terrorists, and in Sudden Impact (1983) he plays a cop named Horace King who is Harry's friend and gets killed.

Not sure if the last bit is info you are looking for, but it does show a reflection of the 70's and shows how things started to turn in the 80's. Since with the 80's we had pairings like Danny Glover and Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon, Carl Weathers and Arnie in Predator, and even Carl Weathers again teaming up with Stallone in Rocky III and IV.

Pussy Galore 03-04-15 01:05 AM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Yes, thank you very much it helps a lot. I actually didn't even notice that the lead in Night of the Living Dead was black when I watched it!

gbgoodies 03-04-15 01:11 AM

Can anyone explain why, with all the racism in films, Disney's Song of the South still hasn't been released on DVD? :confused:

mark f 03-04-15 01:20 AM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Disney execs are wussies. I have a copy from a Japanese laser disc.

gbgoodies 03-04-15 01:24 AM

I haven't checked recently, but it used to be on YouTube.

BOWgoesBOW 03-04-15 01:58 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
Men in Black, The Avengers, Se7en?


Those show African Americans as authority figures, but they do not show them in a way that demeans them or even describes them as different. Racist films are not around that much now, but joking about race is still going on. Keep looking, I'm sure you will find a bunch of good examples.

honeykid 03-04-15 02:12 PM

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tucobenedicto 03-05-15 12:54 PM

Re: Afro americans in american cinema
 
for your school work you must see Spike Lee' filmography. Also, in "Inside Man" the protagonist black factor is not relevant..


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