Snowden (2016)
 

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Did you see the documentary on Snowden? Really good one.

I haven't, but I've heard good things.

Which one? I can see there is one callede Citizenfour and another called Terminal F.

I'd assume Citizenfour.

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I really want to see this movie, I love Oliver Stone's past works, but the cast doesn't look very good. The only actor that has given a really good performance in this movie is Nicolas Cage, and we all know what he's like now a days. Joseph Gordon Levitt isn't an awful actor, but he's not a good one either, I just really don't know about this.

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When I saw the title of the thread, I originally thought this would be a movie about people going mountain climbing in Wales.


Like an actionless version of Vertical Limit.

It does kind of sound like that.

Snowden was the alternate title to Tarantino's Hateful Eight.

I think it looks pretty entertaining, and a little different than what I'd expect from Oliver Stone.

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I'm interested, but that documentary can't be beat.

Different in what way?

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I am surprised to say I found this quite interesting. I mean sure Snowden is going to be more relevant subject for an American audience with his controversial status I am still probably going to check this out.

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I will have to watch the documentary next. After watching the movie, I am wondering, Snowden was in trouble for going to the media with secrets. But in the American government, is there a prosecutor or a judge or a court, he could have tried sending all the evidence to first to see what would happened, rather than contacting the media as his first choice? That way legally the secret is not out, cause you have reported it to the government court and prosecutor still, who part of that secret realm legally still, like the attorney general perhaps? Or is there no such thing in government and he pretty much had to let the secrets out, and get himself into trouble?

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Google around for his own explanations of why he did it the way he did. He's talked about the subject a lot, I believe.

Snowden is a great companion piece to the excellent documentary, Citizenfour. O. Stone resisted the urge to overly embellish or romanticize the facts of the story. In that way the Snowden production puts me in mind of Stone's excellent JFK. It's simply a dramatization of the material in Citezenfour, and the other portions of the story up through 2016.

I'd love to see Stone do one on Julian Assange. It might help to get that guy released from prison.

~Doc

That's not how it works. He was in trouble the moment he took the material. Then giving it to someone was a second layer of illegality. The press would be more likely to investigate and publish it where a judge or lawyer would have a different set of principles and likely immediately contact federal authorities.

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Oh okay thanks, that makes sense. There is one thing that got me thinking about the real story. In order for the government to be listening in people's phone conversations, would the cellphone companies have to be in on at as well, to assist the government with it? Or were the cellphone companies, completely unaware of all this? I tried looking this up, but could not find a source that says whether or not the cellphone companies were a part of it.

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Oh okay. But if the phone companies were complicit, how come no one has tried filing lawsuits against them for being part of the conspiracy then, or no one is even trying to slander them at least for it.

Plus why would the phone companies agree, knowing that they could be either sued or charged with criminal activity? Would the President have to promise then a signed immunity for everyone involved? But even if they were given that, wouldn't the government still have to pay the phone companies a lot of money, more than their customers do?