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TheUsualSuspect 04-28-19 03:15 PM

Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
$350M.

Never would’ve thought I’d see a film at $300 Million, let alone $350 million. This is a record I don’t think will be beaten anytime soon.

Tugg 04-28-19 03:22 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Ka-Ching!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUnmTE6ljRg

Yoda 04-28-19 04:40 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Yeah, "can it top $300 million?" was the big question. Yikes.

Guaporense 04-28-19 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect (Post 2007445)
$350M.

Never would’ve thought I’d see a film at $300 Million, let alone $350 million. This is a record I don’t think will be beaten anytime soon.
Well, I was thinking that it would be interesting if it beats Avatar (not corrected for inflation)'s 2.8 billion. Biggest weekend ever was pretty much a given at this point. I think it can beat Avatar's nominal gross considering it made 1.2 billion globally in only 5 days.

I wonder if it can reach about 3.3 billion, which would be required to beat Avatar's inflation-adjusted gross.

Adjusted for inflation endgame is currently at the 203th place: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

I guess in a couple of years we will have movies reaching 400-500 million weekends. Given the natural increase in ticket prices due to inflation and population growth: the biggest weekend in 2006 was about 135.6 million dollars, 13 years later it is ca. 350 million (have to wait a little bit for the more precise data to come). Nothing suggests that in 10 years we cannot have opening weekends over 500 million for Avengers 8 or Star Wars 13.

TheUsualSuspect 04-28-19 08:39 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
It needs legs to do this, we’ll see but it’ll be hard to beat.

gandalf26 04-28-19 09:48 PM

To get over $2 billion it needs the repeat viewings to be high, I don't think they will be, not like IW. It's 3 hours, and the first hours quite slow and there's a lot of mixed feelings out there.

Iroquois 04-28-19 10:45 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I don't know, people will want to see what they missed on their trips to the toilet.

doubledenim 04-29-19 04:52 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I didn't believe the total number ($1.5 worldwide?) the first couple of times I heard it. Must be a record for "screens" and "showings" . Still, how many times can one person see a movie in a week...

Siddon 04-29-19 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 2007480)
To get over $2 billion it needs the repeat viewings to be high, I don't think they will be, not like IW. It's 3 hours, and the first hours quite slow and there's a lot of mixed feelings out there.

They might hit 2 before Friday, the issue is 3, if it manages a single multiple it'll hit 2.4. We'll see what the Endgame drop off is

John-Connor 04-29-19 05:18 AM

https://i.imgur.com/ck52DnP.jpg

Theophile 04-30-19 04:20 AM

Avengers: Endgame Box office records
 
While I have not seen it, "Avengers: Endgame" has set many box office records.



Here is the list, according to Box Office Mojo:




These are some crazy records; what do you think?

WrinkledMind 04-30-19 01:47 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Not really surprised. Never seen anything like this in India for a Hollywood movie. There was madness around Infinity War, but I could get a ticket at the end of the weekend. But for this one, shows are still running houseful.

John McClane 04-30-19 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Theophile (Post 2007814)

These are some crazy records; what do you think?
Well, I still think it's a bad movie: I want my $12 dollars back and, by the looks of these records, they can afford it.

Guaporense 04-30-19 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2007956)
Well, I still think it's a bad movie: I want my $12 dollars back and, by the looks of these records, they can afford it.
I am not going to watch it in theaters but I am excited just watching its box office performance.

Theophile 05-01-19 05:30 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Avengers: Endgame is already, after only 5 days of release, the 10th biggest movie of all time Worldwide (Holy Smokes):


1 Avatar Fox $2,788.0 $760.5 27.3% $2,027.5 72.7% 2009^

2 Titanic Par. $2,187.5 $659.4 30.1% $1,528.1 69.9% 1997^

3 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $2,068.2 $936.7 45.3% $1,131.6 54.7% 2015
4 Avengers: Infinity War BV $2,048.4 $678.8 33.1% $1,369.5 66.9% 2018

5 Jurassic World Uni. $1,671.7 $652.3 39.0% $1,019.4 61.0% 2015

6 Marvel's The Avengers BV $1,518.8 $623.4 41.0% $895.5 59.0% 2012

7 Furious 7 Uni. $1,516.0 $353.0 23.3% $1,163.0 76.7% 2015

8 Avengers: Age of Ultron BV $1,405.4 $459.0 32.7% $946.4 67.3% 2015

9 Black Panther BV $1,346.9 $700.1 52.0% $646.9 48.0% 2018

10 Avengers: Endgame BV $1,342.7 $394.0 29.3% $948.7 70.7% 2019

Guaporense 05-01-19 12:22 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
It is going to be top 5 by next week.

The only uncertainty is whether it gets to surpass Titanic and Avatar's gross. It certainly will be the highest grossing superhero movie of all time.

KeyserCorleone 05-01-19 12:25 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2007522)
Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 2007480)
To get over $2 billion it needs the repeat viewings to be high, I don't think they will be, not like IW. It's 3 hours, and the first hours quite slow and there's a lot of mixed feelings out there.

They might hit 2 before Friday, the issue is 3, if it manages a single multiple it'll hit 2.4. We'll see what the Endgame drop off is
I don't know why people say the first hour is slow. It gets through important plot points at an even place while making plenty of room for character development when the durectors had no obligation to put character development in a movie made to end the hype and appeal to fanfare. It's a lot more than just the fanservice front that's easy to get bothered by. I would even say it's one of the ten greatest movies I've ever seen.

Theophile 05-02-19 02:28 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
As of Wednesday, it is number 8:


1 Avatar Fox $2,788.0 $760.5 27.3% $2,027.5 72.7% 2009^

2 Titanic Par. $2,187.5 $659.4 30.1% $1,528.1 69.9% 1997^

3 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $2,068.2 $936.7 45.3% $1,131.6 54.7% 2015

4 Avengers: Infinity War BV $2,048.4 $678.8 33.1% $1,369.5 66.9% 2018

5 Jurassic World Uni. $1,671.7 $652.3 39.0% $1,019.4 61.0% 2015

6 Marvel's The Avengers BV $1,518.8 $623.4 41.0% $895.5 59.0% 2012

7 Furious 7 Uni. $1,516.0 $353.0 23.3% $1,163.0 76.7% 2015

8 Avengers: Endgame BV $1,481.1 $427.1 28.8% $1,054.0 71.2% 2019

TheUsualSuspect 05-02-19 12:33 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I think it'll be #2 by the end of its run.

Cassiuscasanova 05-02-19 10:05 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
This has a strong chance to snatch avatars record. It’ll likely be at around 2 billion this weekend and 2.5 by next weekend

Thursday Next 05-04-19 06:11 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
There's certainly something interesting about the phenomenon of 'event' cinema, with people who don't normally go to the cinema going for these films. My son who is not into superhero movies at all (and didn't even watch Infinity War) insisted on coming to watch Endgame, "just so I know what everyone else is talking about". I saw both Avatar and Titanic with my parents who barely ever go to the cinema. And Force Awakens was a three-generation outing.

Guaporense 05-04-19 08:28 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
My current box office prediction: domestic total 800 million, world total 2.8 billion. Thats about 35% bigger than Infinity War's box office which follows from the fact the last movie has a box office trajectory.

I think it will be a hair's breath com Avatar's gross. However, adjusted for inflation, Avatar's gross is 3.2 billion in current prices, although Avatar was helped by a weak dollar which made international box office more valuable (which is why it's international box office is so much bigger than domestic: in 2010 the dollar was 20% weaker than today so 1 billion dollars in international box office today is equivalent to 1.25 billion in 2010's exchange rates, but accumulated inflation was about 15-20% since 2010 which counters the exchange rate effect).

Theophile 05-05-19 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 2008131)
It is going to be top 5 by next week.

The only uncertainty is whether it gets to surpass Titanic and Avatar's gross. It certainly will be the highest grossing superhero movie of all time.

After only 11 days, it looks as if it has passed Titanic and is only weeks away from beating Avatar:


1 Avatar Fox $2,788.0 $760.5 27.3% $2,027.5 72.7% 2009^

2 Avengers: Endgame BV $2,188.7 $619.7 28.3% $1,569.0 71.7% 2019

3 Titanic Par. $2,187.5 $659.4 30.1% $1,528.1 69.9% 1997^

gandalf26 05-05-19 08:09 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Well I was way wrong. $3 billion looking likely

Cynema De Bergerac 05-06-19 10:41 AM

Finally: someone takes a huge dump right in Cameron's breakfast cereal. This is officially the best timeline.

Iroquois 05-06-19 11:22 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
As silly as it sounds, part of me is going to miss having Avatar and Titanic on top of the chart. We had an absolute madman make not one but two original* films that held the #1 spot for well over twenty years and they were such unlikely candidates as well - a 3-hour romance set during a real-life disaster and the other a sci-fi epic about giant blue cat people. Regardless of their actual quality or cultural impact, it's going to be a little disappointing to see them lose the top spot to the 22nd film in a franchise that's already generated billions upon billions under the watch of the most notoriously mono-cultural conglomerate out there.

*save your jokes about Avatar, we've heard them all before

Thursday Next 05-06-19 11:28 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Curious that it is such long films at the top of this list. I guess some people really want to get their money's worth when they fork out for a cinema ticket.

Yoda 05-06-19 11:38 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I assume it's overlapping causation: high-grossing films are highly anticipated films, and highly-anticipated films are films people don't mind being long, because they want as much as they can get.

Iroquois 05-06-19 12:25 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Depends on your definition of long, I guess. Seems like most blockbusters these days are anything between 120-150 minutes with anything going significantly over 150 being comparatively uncommon.

Guaporense 05-06-19 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 2009257)
As silly as it sounds, part of me is going to miss having Avatar and Titanic on top of the chart. We had an absolute madman make not one but two original* films that held the #1 spot for well over twenty years and they were such unlikely candidates as well - a 3-hour romance set during a real-life disaster and the other a sci-fi epic about giant blue cat people. Regardless of their actual quality or cultural impact, it's going to be a little disappointing to see them lose the top spot to the 22nd film in a franchise that's already generated billions upon billions under the watch of the most notoriously mono-cultural conglomerate out there.

*save your jokes about Avatar, we've heard them all before
At least, if we correct for inflation Titanic and Avatar will not be beaten (both made more than 3 billion corrected for US ticket price inflation). Although correcting for inflation, ET made over 2 billion, and both the original Star Wars and Gone with the Wind made about 3 billion.

And at the current rate it is not certain Avatar's 2.788 billion box office will be surpassed. Endgame is going at about 35% more than infinity war in the US, of we project to global gross it will be 2.750 billion, so its run might end up a little lower than Avatar.

And yes, I agree it would be sad to see the 22th entry of most generic style entertainment franchise being the highest grossing movie ever.

Siddon 05-06-19 04:54 PM

ooh....what should have been a blowout might be a horse race...


https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pok...pe=top_critics

Guaporense 05-09-19 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2009352)
ooh....what should have been a blowout might be a horse race...

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pok...pe=top_critics
2019 is the year when:

the highest grossing movie of all time becomes a comic book movie

the first good Hollywood manga adaptation is released (Alita)

the first good Hollywood videogame adaptation is released (Pikachu (according to audiences))

also, its the first time a female lead comic book movie earns over 1 billion

Disney buys the Alien franchise

Theophile 05-17-19 03:33 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Avatar is at 2.7 Billion Dollars.

Avengers: Endgame is at 2.5 Billion Dollars.



Just another week or two and we may have a new record. :)

Cassiuscasanova 05-17-19 10:56 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
It’s very close to call and with Aladdin coming to swallow up some box office next week, it could be very close

Guaporense 05-22-19 10:10 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Well, corrected for inflation in movie ticket prices Titanic is still first place and made 4 billion.

Guaporense 05-23-19 07:56 PM

Corrected for (North American) ticket price inflation, worldwide grosses, ranking as of

May 23, 2019:

1. Titanic (4.05 billion)
2. Gone With the Wind (3.65 billion)
3. Avatar (3.21 billion)
4. Star Wars (2.70 billion)
5. Avengers: Endgame (2.63 billion)
6. E.T. (2.33 billion)
7. The Sound of Music (2.31 billion)
8. The Ten Commandments (2.21 billion)
9. Star Wars: Force Awakens (2.15 billion)
10. Avengers: Infinity War (2.13 billion)

Guaporense 06-05-19 06:14 PM

It is looking like it is not going to pass Avatar:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#580303e8e396

TheUsualSuspect 06-06-19 09:02 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I hope not.

It's roughly $70M behind right now.

TheUsualSuspect 06-06-19 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 2013693)
Corrected for (North American) ticket price inflation, worldwide grosses, ranking as of

May 23, 2019:

1. Titanic (4.05 billion)
2. Gone With the Wind (3.65 billion)
3. Avatar (3.21 billion)
4. Star Wars (2.70 billion)
5. Avengers: Endgame (2.63 billion)
6. E.T. (2.33 billion)
7. The Sound of Music (2.31 billion)
8. The Ten Commandments (2.21 billion)
9. Star Wars: Force Awakens (2.15 billion)
10. Avengers: Infinity War (2.13 billion)
Where are you getting these numbers?

Box Office Mojo

SFMZone 06-06-19 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 2010220)
2019 is the year when:
Disney buys the Alien franchise
http://scifimoviezone.com/alienmickey.jpg

Guaporense 06-06-19 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect (Post 2016516)
Where are you getting these numbers?

Box Office Mojo
I corrected box office mojo's international grosses by the US ticket price inflation information they provided.

Guaporense 06-06-19 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by SFMZone (Post 2016520)
https://i1.wp.com/bloody-disgusting....ng?w=878&ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting....pg?w=864&ssl=1

MarioMovies 06-10-19 06:20 PM

Seeing as it's about 55 million dollars away from catching avatar is still seems moderately feasible, but not certain. We have heavy hitters coming soon which is gonna cause endgames boxoffice to drop off even harder now. The most likely shot it has at passing avatar would be re releasing it in theaters again to bump it past 2.8 billion

aronisred 06-11-19 12:10 PM

I just want it to beat avatar just so he can congratulate marvel again

Guaporense 06-13-19 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by MarioMovies (Post 2017476)
Seeing as it's about 55 million dollars away from catching avatar is still seems moderately feasible, but not certain. We have heavy hitters coming soon which is gonna cause endgames boxoffice to drop off even harder now. The most likely shot it has at passing avatar would be re releasing it in theaters again to bump it past 2.8 billion
Comparing to past box office performance of Infinity War it is not going to reach Avatar. Infinity War grossed only 20 million more in North America after the same number of days out last year. But over the last few days Endgame is grossing at only 2/3 of the daily rate that Infinity War was doing last year (since it was super front loaded everybody who was interested in it already saw it). So Endgame is likely to gross only about 13 million more in North America, in other regions it has already left theaters in many countries so it is not going to gross more than 70% of the remaining gross outside of North America. So, I project an additional total gross of about 40 million which means Endgame is going to finish with 2.774 billion compared to Avatar's 2.788 billion.

Yes Disney could try re-releasing it to get it over Avatar's finishing line. Thing is that Disney owns Avatar too. So Disney does not want Endgame to surpass Avatar's box office because they will be able to announce Avatar 2 as the sequel of the biggest movie ever.

I guess Avatar's box office record is going to last a bit longer. Well, I would only think that something very different would beat Avatar. Maybe, as the Chinese currency gets stronger and more and more people flock to theaters there, a Chinese fantasy movie about talking monkeys will beat it's record.

MarioMovies 06-13-19 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 2018155)
Comparing to past box office performance of Infinity War it is not going to reach Avatar. Infinity War grossed only 20 million more in North America after the same number of days out last year. But over the last few days Endgame is grossing at only 2/3 of the daily rate that Infinity War was doing last year (since it was super front loaded everybody who was interested in it already saw it). So Endgame is likely to gross only about 13 million more in North America, in other regions it has already left theaters in many countries so it is not going to gross more than 70% of the remaining gross outside of North America. So, I project an additional total gross of about 40 million which means Endgame is going to finish with 2.774 billion compared to Avatar's 2.788 billion.

Yes Disney could try re-releasing it to get it over Avatar's finishing line. Thing is that Disney owns Avatar too. So Disney does not want Endgame to surpass Avatar's box office because they will be able to announce Avatar 2 as the sequel of the biggest movie ever.

I guess Avatar's box office record is going to last a bit longer. Well, I would only think that something very different would beat Avatar. Maybe, as the Chinese currency gets stronger and more and more people flock to theaters there, a Chinese fantasy movie about talking monkeys will beat it's record.
Completely agree. I'm actually rather glad Avatar is going to keep the number 1 spot for a while longer.

Sedai 06-19-19 02:00 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
And then this happened...

Gibbonblack 06-19-19 04:23 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Yeah, it'll likely beat Avatar now it's being re released. Apparently the new footage is just a post credits thing which is a bit lame

MarioMovies 06-20-19 12:08 PM

But do you guys think that a couple minutes of new footage at the end of the movie is going to influence mass audience members to see it once more? Just a casual fan of the MCU so personally I can't justify committing 3 hours again for just a few minutes of footage.

Gibbonblack 06-20-19 12:12 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
True. I won't go and rewatch it in theatres, but the hardcores defintely will. I don't know if that will push it past Avatar though

Sedai 06-20-19 12:23 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
For the record, I am not seeing it again in theaters.

John McClane 06-20-19 11:51 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I won’t be seeing it again, and I reject Endgame as canon. It’s actually all a dream in Tony Stark’s head. None of it actually happened.

But 7 minutes of additional footage (shown after the credits and out of context) and a Stan Lee tribute? If there was ever any doubts this should put an end to them. Greatest cash grab in cinema’s history, and they are aiming for that last Avatar record.

Doolallyfrank 06-21-19 08:58 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I'm a bit torn on this, Avatar wasn't a great movie but it was a cinematic spectacle, it was in theaters for ages, Endgame was 2 months maybe? Avatar is still the best 3D film I've seen, Endgame was a closing chapter of a long cinematic journey in which I'd only missed 1 film in the series in theaters so it was a rewarding experience.
I say let Endgame make enough to overtake it but not by enough when you adjust for inflation, then the "debate" can continue

Guaporense 06-22-19 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2019427)
I won’t be seeing it again, and I reject Endgame as canon. It’s actually all a dream in Tony Stark’s head. None of it actually happened.
I posted a lot about its box office but I have not actually watched it. :D I find following movie box office more interesting than the movies themselves. :D

Guaporense 07-15-19 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 2018155)
Yes Disney could try re-releasing it to get it over Avatar's finishing line. Thing is that Disney owns Avatar too. So Disney does not want Endgame to surpass Avatar's box office because they will be able to announce Avatar 2 as the sequel of the biggest movie ever.
Well, Marvel and Disney apparently do not care that much for Avatar to hold the record as they indeed are trying with tooth and nail to make Endgame force through Avatar's record: They re-released it in many markets already and it managed to push its box office to already 2.781 billion, 7 million away from Avatar's record and already about 5 to 10 million above the level it was supposed to settle given the box office trend of the weeks before the re-release.

Just a little more push (keeping re-releasing it in several countries plus keeping over 1,000 screens in North America) should do the trick and it will reach about 2.790 billion.

McConnaughay 07-18-19 09:53 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
Personally, I enjoyed Avengers: Endgame a lot more than I enjoyed Avatar. This isn't to say I think either film is among the heavy-hitters in-terms of artistic merit. Although, I will say I think what the Marvel Cinematic Universe has accomplish thus far has been one of the most consistent commercial spectacles I've witnessed, even if the genre itself is over-encumbered. I'd love to be surprised with a new series of films to capture everyone's attention. Currently, for a lot of movie-companies, I think they're walking in circles, repeating themselves in an attempt to capture a lost glory. This isn't anything new, of course, but it really does feel like a while since a film series has been able to breakout that didn't originate from a previous decade. Warner Bros. is trying to recapture Harry Potter with the Fantastic Beasts (and is not) ... and, before that, Warner Bros. tried to recapture Lord of the Rings with The Hobbit series (and they, kind-of, did, at least from a box office standpoint). I haven't seen the film and I know the reviews are bad, but it's be fantastic if a film like Mortal Engines was able to capture the zeitgeist, so to speak and breakout.

Guaporense 07-21-19 01:08 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
So it finally broke Avatar's nominal box office record:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
It think this record is going to last a while now, since the biggest box office movies usually generate 1-1.5 billion. I don't think Avatar's sequels are going to be as big as Avatar was.

MoreOrLess 07-24-19 06:33 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
I would point out in terms of re-releases the number quoted for Avatar includes the taking from its own re-release the following summer that including another 20 mins of footage rather than just an east end after the credits, End Game actually surpassed its original release awhile ago.

TheUsualSuspect 07-24-19 11:42 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
If you don't think they are going to re-release Avatar ahead of Avatar 2...you're nuts. I think it will reclaim the throne.

Yoda 07-24-19 11:44 AM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
The year is 2046. Avengers: Endgame has been re-re-re-re-released with a completely digital recreation of Stan Lee in one of the starring roles. It edges $496 moon dollars ahead of Avatar: Special Unobtanium Version. The war continues.

Chypmunk 07-24-19 12:06 PM

Re: Avengers: Endgame does the unthinkable.
 
The year is 2048. October 19th to be precise. The Steven Spielberg documentary Is This The Endgame For Avatar (co-produced by Netflix) has just eclipsed all other entities for gross earnings after a spellbinding opening seven weeks in which it has never once failed to accrue less than one billion moon units. Spielberg has gone on record to say he will make no more than five more features before retiring.


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