Question about how and why the Hays code started.
I watching the movie This Film Is Not Yet Rated and they said in the movie that the Hays Code was started because of the Fattie Arbuckle manslaughter scandal. Side note, why hasn't Hollywood made a movie about that yet!?
Anyway, I did research on it later, and I just don't get how a movie production code like that would come about from a manslaughter scandal. That would be like OJ Simpson murder case, leading the American football industry to make football a non-contact sport, cause one of their former players committed a murder. It just makes no logical sense to connect one thing to another like that. Unless I'm wrong, and this code was not as such of a reach as I'm thinking? |
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Because it was a different time and culture back then maybe?
|
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Actually... just checking up on something...
Hollywood and the movie business in general, was always seen as morally questionable considering how some actors and actresses would flaunt themselves in what was seen as a "sexual way"... though by today's standards was probably nothing. It wasn't just Arbuckle though. There were a few murders and drug related deaths and even cases of rape amongst the famous circles of showbiz... and after a load of political pressure to curb the behaviour of so-called celebrities, the actual movies they were making were overhauled and put up for a kind of judgement to ensure these apparent wayward celebrities weren't corrupting the populous, and especially youths, with sex and filth. The "trouble" that the famous circles would get up to is pretty tame by today's standards, it was still something that needed to be curbed and policed for the better of the populous. Responsibility has to lay somewhere... and movies and music, artistic outlets, are something that could be seen as risqué. |
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Okay thanks, but what I don't understand is, is how is censoring movie content going to curb the behavior of celebrities? Celebrities are still going to engage in naughty sex with whoever they want and being cast in only clean movies, will not change that will it?
|
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2012463)
I watching the movie This Film Is Not Yet Rated and they said in the movie that the Hays Code was started because of the Fattie Arbuckle manslaughter scandal. Side note, why hasn't Hollywood made a movie about that yet!?
|
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Okay thanks, but was there really a lot of female sexual liberation going on back then? A lot of sources seem to say that started in the 60s with the free love movement, so was it really that bad in the 30s by comparison?
|
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2012567)
Okay thanks, but was there really a lot of female sexual liberation going on back then? A lot of sources seem to say that started in the 60s with the free love movement, so was it really that bad in the 30s by comparison?
|
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Oh okay, cause it seems in many older movies I see from the 40s and 50s, the female characters are more sexually reserved, accept for the femme fatale characters, who are suppose to be more villainous.
|
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2012579)
Oh okay, cause it seems in many older movies I see from the 40s and 50s, the female characters are more sexually reserved, accept for the femme fatale characters, who are suppose to be more villainous.
BTW, you should consider joining the 19th HoF which is just starting and open for people to join. I know you like to discuss movies so you might like being in an HoF as all the members watch and discuss the same movies. Think about it, it be fun to have you join:) |
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Oh okay. Thanks, I will check it out :)
When it comes to movies in the 40s and 50s, are there any where women are sexually liberated, but are good characters, cause it seems that all the women characters who are in those, only are, if they are up to something, or are just being naughty for alterior motives, rather than just wanting to have sexual fun by itself, unless I am wrong? |
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Some things were considered very sexually suggestive for the time. For example, the line "Why don't you come up sometime and see me?" and other double entendres uttered by Mae West in "She Done Him Wrong."
|
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2012609)
Oh okay. Thanks, I will check it out :)
When it comes to movies in the 40s and 50s, are there any where women are sexually liberated, but are good characters...
Originally Posted by average joe (Post 2012683)
Some things were considered very sexually suggestive for the time. For example, the line "Why don't you come up sometime and see me?" and other double entendres uttered by Mae West in "She Done Him Wrong."
|
Re: Question about how and why the Hays code started.
Oh okay. I read that the independent film scene in the 50s started competing against the Hays code cause indie films were able to portray things that Hollywood studios could not. But why did the indie scene only start doing this in the 50s then, and why not right away in the 30s?
|
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2012790)
Oh okay. I read that the independent film scene in the 50s started competing against the Hays code cause indie films were able to portray things that Hollywood studios could not. But why did the indie scene only start doing this in the 50s then, and why not right away in the 30s?
Why didn't they start doing that in the 30s? Well, there was a monopoly at the time between film studios and movie distribution system which was tied into the theater chains as well. So it wasn't easy to get a film a major release as the theaters and movie booking was controlled by the big boys. Check this out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loews_..._Entertainment |
All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:20 PM. |
Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright, ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by
Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © Movie Forums