Based On A True Story
 

Is it just me or are there an increasing amount of movies with this tagline beneath the title?

Like it justifies a movie. And most of these only have the barest semblance of being anywhere near what actually happened.

I was reading something recently about what hollywood insiders have termed as "Lie-ography" films such as A Perfect Mind. Films which have a spark of an idea in truth then the rest is simply made up. People in Hollywood are getting increasingly lazy with endless remakes (or re-imaginings) and so called "Based On A True Story" films.

Off the top of my head at the cinema (I live in the UK) we currently have

From Hell
Iris
Black Hawk Down
A Perfect Mind


and upcoming we have

Ali
We Were Soldiers
Mothman Prophecies

Whatever happened to original ideas?

Simple: it's more amazing if it's not something wild someone thought up while on mushrooms. :laugh: People like to see the amazing things that have happened throughout history. It's exciting to know that great, or eventful things can happen to ordinary people. Tales of heroism work best when the heros are just ordinary people thrust into extraordinary situations.

Braveheart, for example, is a good movie. I find it more emotionally moving, however, because of the fact that it's a portrait of what happened long ago. It, no doubt, has more of an impact because of it.

*I think you mean A Beautiful Mind, the Ron Howard flick based on John Nash's life starring Russell Crowe. There's nothing called "A Perfect Mind".


And I don't think films based on true events, however loosely, are any more or less prevalent today than they were in the past. Biopics and true events, those historical and relating to pop-culture, always have been and always will be a big part of what Hollywood uses for material. You're just noticing it more now for some reason. Look at the movies from any single year and you will find many of the high-profile releases are based on true stories in one way or another.

Randomly going back to 1997, there were theatrical releases for Donnie Brasco, Rosewood, Mrs. Brown, Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil, Amistad, Kundun, Seven Years in Tibet, The Disappearance of Garcia Lorca, Selena, Private Parts, Anastasia, and something called Titanic.

One of the reasons why "true stories" are used for the movies is because they often turn into very well-regarded dramas, at the very least critically speaking and with a level of prestige in the industry. Look at these fact-based movies that garnered major Oscar nominations just in the past ten years: Erin Brockovich, Before Night Falls, Pollack, Quills, The Insider, The Hurricane, The Straight Story, Boys Don't Cry, Music of the Heart, Girl,Interrupted, Topsy-Turvy, Elizabeth, The Thin Red Line, Saving Private Ryan, Shakespeare in Love, Gods and Monsters, Hilary & Jackie, One True Thing, Titanic, Mrs. Brown, Amistad, Donnie Brasco, Shine, The People vs. Larry Flynt, The Ghosts of Mississippi, Braveheart, Apollo 13, Dead Man Walking, Nixon, Casino, Rob Roy, Quiz Show, The Madness of King George, Tom & Viv, Ed Wood, Schindler's List, In the Name of the Father, What's Love Got to Do with It?, Shadowlands, Chaplin, Malcolm X, Lorenzo's Oil, Bugsy, JFK, Awakenings, Reversal of Fortune, and GoodFellas.

Going back over Best Picture Oscar winners from the '60s to the '90s there was Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, A Man for All Seasons, Patton, The French Connection, Chariots of Fire, Gandhi, Amadeus, The Last Emperor, Platoon, Schinndler's List, Braveheart, Titanic, and Shakespeare in Love.

Does this begin to answer your question as to why they keep making these kinds of movies?


As for original ideas, don't ever go looking to Hollywood for them - certainly not mainstream Hollywood. Originality usually dies unceremoniously out there.

Sorry, thats the one meant. I was thinking off the top of my head and knew it was something about a mind!

Anyway its not something id really thought about, its just that there are seven or eight of these films out about the same time and i thought it was a bit strange. Also the fact that they are deliberately advertising the fact that they are "Based On A True Story" on the trailers and movie posters made me notice. This seems to be a fairly recent thing. I mean they didnt advertise Titanic as "based on a true story" because it was a made up story occuring during a real life situation.

Perhaps this is the reason they are deliberately advertising it. To make people perceive more enjoyment out of it. It is a cheap marketing trick after all!

I realise that some of these films are deliberately made with Oscar in mind but seven or eight in the first 7 weeks of the year is a bit excessive.


Also Rock Star, which only recently came out here. Forgot that from my list!

I think you'll find the "Based on a True Story" tag depends on how well-known the material is beforehand. There's no need to put such a distinction on Titanic or Patton, because even before those movies were hits there was a broad understanding that they are based on historical events, or in the case of Ali or Man on the Moon, those figures are well-known enough. But when you get to a story like Erin Brockovich, The Insider or A Beautiful Mind, the likelihood that a wide variety of people are going to have an instant recognition of those stories without the film's publicity telling you what they are, that naturally decreases.

To answer the first specific question from your original post: it's just you.

Well, some movies are based on books...

Where's the originality there? It's all the same. Some true stories are interesting enough to be brought into film.

After all the sequels, re-makes, novels, plays and true stories that are used for the basis of each year's crop of movies, there are really very few "original" projects out there in production at any given time.

That's just the way it is. I don't see how "based on a true story" is inherently any better or worse than anything else used for the cinema. A good movie is a good movie, no matter what the source material.

:yup:

Would you rather see a movie Based on a True Story, OR...see a sequel to a rather stupid movie?

Your right Holden, it is just me. It just that there were a lot at the same time.

One of my problems with it is that the story in these films seem to become gospel truth.

Its been said in previous threads but it annoys me that people will start to believe that the events in some of these films actually happened when they were just made up to make the film more interesting. This is fine, nobody wants to see a mundane film but these stories become "what really happened."

Braveheart painted William Wallace as a hero when in fact he was an excessively savage warrior. OK to the Scottish at the time he may have been a hero but the film did not show his flaws.

It is a fact that a lot of what happens in A Beautiful Mind never actually happened. Yes, a clever guy had a serious illness (Schizoprenia i believe) but that is about it.

If you are going to make these films and claim them to be truth, at least make sure the film tells the truth not a sanitized version of it.

Granted, but at least some of the books are original. LOTR and Harry Potter may be based on books but the books are original. Okay may be not HP Neil Gaiman fans but you know what i mean.

Ive just completely shot down my original argument. Bugger!

ARt imitates life, man. That's the way it is. Everything is based on truth and reality, we cannot create something out of nothing.

Well, Seinfeld...:laugh:

FOX does it all the time

Goodfellas!

Yes, GoodFellas (1990) was based on a true story.

Thanks for the input!

I think he simply meant that he really liked it. :)

It doesn't matter to me if a movie is based on a true story or not. A Beautiful Mind and Braveheart, for example, would both still be fantastic is the events they were based on never happened. Ditto for Titanic, and Goodfellas.

I'm with the Football Star, on that one. It's good if it's reality or just close to it...

Well, I think we all know that fiction can be better than reality in terms of entertainment...but there's no way it makes no difference. It's natural for it to be more emotional and breathtaking to see these events on film and think to yourself "that awful/amazing thing I'm seeing right now really happened," rather than "someone made that up." Maybe it's just me...I'm more in awe knowing that it's real...heck, in those situations, it might as well have been me, or some other miscellaneous guy, getting killed, fighting, taking a risk, etc.

Whatever he meant by that post, it was simple, I'll grant you that. Hey, let me try...


Knute Rockne, All American!



Geeze, that IS simple!

OK, everybody stop discussing the frequency of or pros/cons in regards to films based on true stories. Now let's start randomly mentioning movies that are based on factual events that we really like. But list no other qualifiers (other than an optional exclamation point), and only do one at a time.

Ready?......Go*!!!


*BTW, Doug Liman's Go (1999) is not based on a true story.

Bridges of Madison County!

No, wait...I hated that frippin' movie.Hmmmm...

Alright...you don't like it? Great. So find a nicer way to say it. Encourage him to talk about the flick. If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. And if you say something anyway, you can still be a little more polite. I don't think that's too much to ask. Maybe you do. Hey, whatever, I'm not gonna force anything. Just a friendly suggestion...I don't expect you'll pay much attention to it.

Wait a second, Sades: do you think The Bridges of Madison County, either the film or the book (a novel, BTW), was based on a true story???

Hey, you can be like those hundreds upon hundreds of other folks who have contacted National Geographic asking which issue Robert Kincaid's photos of those covered bridges appeared in!

:laugh:


It sure is hot in this kitchen. I hope I can stand the heat.


My Left Foot!

Well, if that's how it's gonna be...

Braveheart.

All the President's Men!

Duh Holden! I KNOW it was based a novel you COW! I heard it was based on a true story...yes.:p

Dammit! Do you think I live in a cave?! Based on a novel(btw)... good grief!

Where oh where did you hear The Bridges of Madison County was based upon a true story? Wherever it was, you can break it to them: IT'S NOT. The story is complete fiction.

Glad I could set you straight. :o



Missing!

Set me straight!!!!! AGHHHHHHHH!!! I wanna soak your head!
I dunno WHERE I heard it. Guess it was some housewife with an over active imagination. Oh well...

Fire in the Sky!

Well, Sades, if you were walking around thinking on some level that The Bridges of Madison County was in ANY way based on true events, then yes, you needed straightening out. That has now been accomplished. Why exactly would my head need soaking for pointing this out and helping you from making this error in the future?

(and I'M the "weird" one)




Raging Bull !

Because it's the way in which you do it. You press buttons...and don't tell me you don't know how to press my buttons! You know...you KNOW!!


JFK!:laugh: just kidding...*sigh*

Oh, you wish I'd push your buttons.



Lenny (1974) !

:eek: Don't get all in the game, now, Holden...you had your chance.


Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken!

Like I said, you wish it. I'm still not interested (though admittedly less and less flattered).



The French Connection (1971) !

OH!!! OH!!!! That is SO it! You suck, Holden! Here I was just playing your little game...being a good girl, and you insult me! You are such an @ss. I DO NOT wish it. maybe back in the day when I thought your pompous attitude was cute...but the routine is old and moldy, friend. Besides, you don't hold a candle to my lover...not even a birthday candle.:p

Alright, calm down. Let's keep this mildly on-topic if we can. This is what PMs were made for.

He only answers PMs if he wants to...not a very good way to have it out with someone.:furious: Besides, it WAS on topic, T. I was putting down movies...just not in that last post...so...so...there!

Right, so back on to the topic of the relative merits of films based on true stories and if Hollywood is seemingly making more of them today.

Oh, wait, that's not what we're doing anymore either.




Judgement at Nuremberg (1961) !

Well, I can't make him answer his PMs. He ignores me sometimes, too. Perfectly consistent with the rest of this little persona of his. Don't give it too much thought.

The Mothman Prophecies was pretty good.

I don't give it any thought myself, though if I did I don't know that I'd use the word "little"...or "persona".

Anywho, now on with the Opera...



Bird (1988) !

Well, little in the sense that you're probably not quite like this in real life (I hope not. ;)).

Schindler's List

Riiiiight. No, I'm completely different. I'm just play-acting here for my own amusement (and Spudsters huffs).
:rolleyes:





Becket (1964) !

No, not completely different. Didn't say that, Holden. :) But, intentional or not, most people are not completely the same online as they are offline. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that that's probably the same of you, and I just don't know you very well.

Thirteen Days.

No benefit necessary. Though if you offer Dental Insurance, that'd be peachy.



The Longest Day

Hmmm, so you're just like this, then? Utterly and completely? Well, okay, if you say so. I'll take your word for it.

The Ten Commandments

I thought "little" was appropriate...


Donnie Brasco!

Wow, sombody around here taking my word for something. That's a switch. I'll see if I enjoy it.

As for the size, that's another 'you wish' that I'll never grant you.





Serpico (1973) !

That's very presumptious of you Holden, who said I was referring to the size of something that would be of intrest to me?


Alive!

I liked this thread better the other way. This is good, too, though.

Man on the Moon.

Oh yeah, this is much better than an actual discussion about a movie related topic: lists free of explinations and a series of dull asides that should either be P.M.s or not bothered with at all.

And gee, I don't know what put me on the d!ck-joke road, Sades. Maybe because a large percentage of what you post here is at least colored with sexual innuendo?





Lawrence of Arabia

I liked that film, the only Jim Carey movie where I thought he did a good job...and he was playing a real person, that's weird.

I don't like this thread anymore.

Harry and the Hendersons!

If mine is colored with sexual innuendo...your's would be a similar color to your @ss.

I think you were trying to be rude just then, but it barely made sense, even as a put-down. Congrats on your organization of thought!

BTW, I'm not biting on that Harry and the Hendersons mention.




The Miracle Worker (1962) !

Alright, c'mon Sades. Don't let him bother you.

Uh, yeah, like I said, I liked it better the other way. You mighta' missed that part. :)

The Insider

If you don't get it, then I'm not going to help you along...( here's a freebie: @ss/your posts...you can put it together, I trust in that little cell you call a brain.) BTW The Miracle Worker, bites. It's so cliche...even for a reality based story.

Yes, The Miracle Worker is very cliched. Blind mutes are taught to speak all the time, especially by the blind. It's the basis for at least three dozen other movies and TV shows. Some things become cliches because they just plain happen all the time.

And nope, didn't miss what you typed, Commish. Didn't miss where you called this pointless rambling "good too" either. And Commish, why no exclamation points? Don't you like your choices as much as Jaidair and I like ours?!?






Frances (1982) !

you changed your post. I think you're anal about them. Gotta have those ducks in row; eh, Holdie-Pooh?

Yes, unlike many, I take care and try to put more than two-seconds of thought and at least an ounce of craft into what I type. If that's being compulsive, so be it.

And thanks for noticing!





I Shot Andy Warhol (1996) !

Yeah, but you're changing your insults and come backs! That's so stupid! I can see if you're changing a typo or something, but going back and adding more fire to an insult after the fact? What do you do in real life? " Scratch that, I meant to call you a prick AND an idiot."

Uh, then your "oh yeah, this is much better" sarcasm was out of place. BTW, the "good too" line was meant as partially sarcastic. I guess I ought to use your trademark green smilie more often to make it obvious.

Shucks, I guess I'm just not all that excited.

Well, I edit mine fairly regularly. But yes, in observing the Who's Online? page, I would definitely say Holden edits his posts more than anyone else...at least, as far as I've noticed. Take that for what you will.

Apollo 13.

Wow, then thank you for noticing too!

Oh, sarcasm. I don't get that stuff. But how could you not find listing movies one at a time exciting? I think this is thrilling.





The Elephant Man (1980) !


I know this will sadden some and excite(!) others, but that's it for me tonight. No, no, please: no tears.

Goodnight, Holden.

My last pick for the night: A League of Their Own (got a high for Hanks, in case you couldn't tell).

Gee, did I get ya?!:indifferent: You usually clock out so much later than this...heh-heh.;D

I'm a little late, and I know this isn't the greatest movie out there but Patch Adams

ick.:p

my, my, what have we here? Looks like I was late to the party.

Where on earth was Toose, with his magical verbal skills? I wonder if Holden will deign to return to this thread to load it with more of his fascinating displays of sadistic behavior but for what it's worth, Sades, that "d*ck AND idiot" line was deelish!

Chris and Sades, you two are way too polite, and Sades far too fragile a flower, to deal with the likes of a cad such as Holden.

Let's see how many metaphors I can use ... this should be fun!

Seems this gentlemanly, likeable, and oh so enjoyable mofo was in the mood to be vindictive last night and took it out on the lot of you. Maybe he thought it was funny and didn't mind the few broken bones he left behind. Maybe he honestly thought that the lot of you, including himself, were teasing and no harm was done. I hear our good sir, however, broke under his sense of noblesse oblige and decided to insult a fellow via PM but - perhaps sensing this would give others proof of his true nature - revoked the message!

But nevermind a man armored with some intelligence shooting his gun in a closed room - just walk on by. Much like you would an alcoholic with a glint of goodness in him. You still marvel at his careful cultivation of all that self-righteous, vindictive verbal bile. But the bullets he so carefully sent your way have done their share of ricocheting and while some of you may be smarting here and there from the blows, be satisfied knowing that the "intellect" in question has shown his true colors. He's deflated his own balloon with that AMAZING display of ego and self-gratification. There is certainly nothing more heartening and hilarious than watching someone both tout and use their skills to belittle others and belittle themselves in the process.

Oho, but wait, do *I* find myself doing the same? Am *I* a hypocrite? I'll readily admit that in the name of decency I've gotten down in the mud to wrestle in defense of my fellows. I feel I've got reason, walking in here to find this thread's become as ugly as all heck and enjoyable in the way "Monster Trucks Crush True Human Beings, Live on Fox!" is. I've got to admit, there was a wonderful cocktail of nausea and laughter burbling up my insides as I made my way through this thread. I find that this is because what I saw was directed at my fellows and likely felt by them, as well. So here's a salute and a bit of repartee to return your kindness ...

I won't mind either way if this post is walked away from or met with open arms ...

I love this place... I won't even try to match your verbal skills thmilin, especially when you become upset and decide to passionately stick up for your friends... Bravo!

thanks, mightymose, you're kind support is much appreciated. ;)

With a sexy pic like that under your name there's no way I would ever oppose you... LOL

I think it's time we start a thread specifically devoted to Holden being a jerk to people. It has no real place in the normal threads. I propose that someone start Have it out with Holden: A Tab in the games forum.....

I'm willing...

Fargo

.....:rolleyes:

Yes Thmilin, where indeed? I did read this thread after the fact as you did. As you know I was gone from this site for quite a while and during that time Mr. Pike and his antics showed up here. Since my return I have seen him bash many people and everyone here laugh it off as if it were accepted behavior from him. I decided to let what ever he said ride as I was not part of the Holden Pike/MoFo dynamic. I must admit that I am ashamed that I did not, as you so honorably did, stand with friends and deride this type of behavior.

I do so now. Holden, I don't think you have one ounce of human dignity, one ounce of compassion, nor one ounce of respect or tolerance for anyone other than yourself. I have read time and again where you lash out at someone for having an opinion other than yours. I have read time and again where you tell people "be how you want to be just don't do it around me." I would like to respectfully request that you follow your own wisdom.

I'm sure that you feel that your actions are cute and that you gain some pleasure from dropping your verbal arsenal on the people here. I find your actions to be despicable and childish.

Thmilin is correct. You have made yourself look even smaller than the speck of dust that I already considered you to be. I cannot fathom for the life of me why people here would choose to be nice to you and acknowledge your presence at all. Every one of those that you find so much fault with I consider to be dear friends. Every one of them are golden in my book and every one of them are decent, knowledgeable, well read, warm, intelligent people. I wonder what you see in the mirror every morning that makes you hate the rest of the world so much.

Don't sell youselves short, because you guys is funny too. Your hyperbole alone can get you a gig at Chuckles Comedy Club in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I had no idea what a viscious villain and bully I am. But the sheer verbosity in your heartfelt appeals to decency and dirt have shown me the light. Time to go eat some worms, I reckon.

Mmmmmm, invertebratey. :laugh:

The big fat juicy ones or the little tiny slimy ones? ;)

Chomp off their heads and squeeze out the juice and throw their tails away... :goof:

I prefer the ring-worms...nice little ring of juciness...:laugh:

Patton.

"Indictment: The McMartin Trial" (1995) !

Verbosity, Holden? You're one to talk. Add up all our sentences and I'm sure it won't equal all the sh|te you've shot at others, let alone your enlightening dialogues on just what cologne was worn by the minor character seen in the back right hand corner of the 5th shot in the first half of the last 30 seconds of a little known director's 23rd film shot on 8 mm black and white film underexposed with emphasis on blue while drunk under a tractor discussing the meaning of mise en scene with a fellow unknown director while in the middle of the desert in 1970 on a bad acid trip.

As for those laughs in Wisconsin ... at least we won't be hearing your hard-earned boos.

Toose, that wonder what you see in the mirror every morning that makes you hate the rest of the world so much was killer! Gets to the heart of the matter. Holden makes such a point to prove he doesn't care he makes the opposite very apparent.

But, my bullchild, I don't think you needed to change your avatar or sig! Come now, don't waste so much energy on him, it's like screaming at a black hole, fun for a while but really, quite useless. I just did it for the principle of the matter and was having fun being pompous at the worm-slurping meanie.

SB, you're damned straight! but having said my piece I'm too lazy at the moment. We're probably amusing Holden but I'm also amusing myself, so, I'll let it chill until my mood next strikes.

mightymose, stop, or i'll tell your wife on you! ;)

thmmie, you rock my world. You really do. You say exactly what I would say if I could organize this dainty-flower-brain and come up with something prickly and more cactus-like.

Toose, I like you're new avatar. Tell you why...*whispering*

Holden, seems like worms are what you'll be eating for awhile; enjoy.:)

Mightymouse, I'm thrilled you're posting more. Foget thmmie's threat...she LOVES the attention.;D

I'm glad to be back... tried to stay from the Internet for awhile, even stopped working on my site, but the addiction is just too damned strong :) I went and checked my guestbook and saw a message from our dearly departed Plite and went "Holy S***" I haven't been on Mofos in forever! Well, now I'm back, site isn't getting worked on, work is being ignored, and I have no life, but I'm slowly climbing to 200 posts... LOL

Amen. My name is Sadie...and I'm a MoFo addict.

MoFo - the Disembodied Psychic Gorilla!


Thmilin -

Yes, it is annoying how on a movie board I can go on and on with trivial details about, of all things, movies. Not only annoying, but also innappropriate. There's a time and place for everything, and surely the internet amongst a bunch of people who profess a love of the cinema, this is not where one should be talking about film in detail.

But once again, you have cut me to the core with such precise, unflinching insight. I AM such an angry, hateful meanie. There must be hundreds of examples scattered all over this place.


Finished the worms, by the way. Had pizza for lunch. No bilateral invertebrates as toppings either.




"And the Band Played On" (1993) !

More documentary then based on true story... but it was still amazing... The Last Waltz

Holden,
Maybe Anal-Movie-Watchers-Boards-For-Lurkers-&-Loners, would be more appropriate?

What was that movie with Ewan McGregor and the coal miners that created a band? That was a great movie. Noises Off? Something, "Off".

Brassed Off is the McGregor coal mining band flick. Noises Off is a play and movie about on and off stage hijinxs during a theatre production. Michael Caine, Carol Burnett, Christopher Reeve and John Ritter co-starred in the movie version.

Look at all those useless, anal details.



Bonnie & Clyde (1967) !

Brassed Off, yes that's it; and shucks...you bit this time.:D

Yup.



"The Positively True Adventures of the Alledged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom" (1993) !

Ah, good. We understand each other this time.

Dead Man Walking. That WAS based on a true story, right?

The Falcon and the Snowman (1984) !

Ooh, talented of you, Holden, to sidestep my point about adding venom to all those useless details and turn it on its head - bravo! So very smart, you are. Mmm, talented, too, to just edit your last post about my insight. What a yummy little class pet you are!

Or maybe not. The details in and of themselves are not useless - nor entirely useFUL. Sometimes, it's good to realize that the details are not the big picture. My example was meant to show how you sometimes turn movies into an issue of fact and amost science, when sometimes the point is just - how do you FEEL about the friggin movie? Then you load up everything with sarcasm so we're not even sure WHAT you're feelings are. And then you throw in some disdain and guess where that gets us?

And I know that behavior of yours is very deliberate. The basic summation of this turn of the thread is, Holden belittles group while talking movies, group gets angry, Holden belittles group for getting angry and not talking about movies, Holden = still on top! I don't think so.

Not all of us are independent know-it-alls. Not all of us went to film school, or took film class, or know the intricacies or most obscure details. And some of us don't try to. I don't know your background (not for lack of being open to learning about it) but I'm a friggin film minor but I don't think that makes me any better at analyzing or discussing, or my opinions worth more. But you behave as if whatever knowledge you've got DOES (for you). Our difference in how we approach it doesn't mean we don't do justice to film. That doesn't mean we don't love them any less. That doesn't mean we're idiots. And assuming we're idiots (wrong in and of itself) doesn't make it ok for you to treat us that way. Which, of course, you're still doing.

If you CARE and are EXCITED about some out of the way factoid that none of us respond to - tell us WHY you care and maybe we will care too, rather than treatnig us like uncooth idiots who don't banter upon film in the manner approved by the resident self-proclaimed Movie Magnate.

So what, you're brain is a cinematic, associational encyclopedia. Just realize that when you add pompousness to the mix it makes us not like neither the delivery nor the content. No, we don't all have to like each other. But we DO have to get along so that we ALL enjoy this place and THEN we'll be able to get along and do some free discussion on ... gasp ... movies.

And the truths keep comin'! Right on target and hyperbole-free, as always.





The Wrong Man (1956) !

It's no use thmmie. Through multiple PMs with Holden, one thing remains the same...and that is what you just pointed out.

Agreed.




The Killing Fields (1984) !

ah, sades, you know me, sucker for an @sshole. something about my judicial bent.

Yep, Holden, I'll keep delivering my hyperbole (and TYPO!)-laden truth so long as you keep delivering your snooty factoid-laden insults. Or was that insult-laden factoids?

ooh, I'm gonna pull a Holden (add THAT to the glossary!) and add to my post! woohoo! Re: all the spots where Holdy was oh-so-vicious ... I'm not saying you were entirely as vicious elsewhere as you were here, but I WILL say you have been a cad pretty much all over these boards (when saying anything more than straight facts) and as for finding them - in Sades' words: Who'd want that hideous task!

Whatever in the Hell you want to call what I post, I'll keep delivering 'em.



Escape From Alcatraz (1979) !

Oh what fun!:rolleyes:

As I say, whatever you want to call it.






"The Guyana Tragedy" (1980) !

I want to know something. Have you really seen all these movies you're posting, or are you just pulling them down off of some " Based on a True Story" web-site? Because if that's the case...this thread is so over. There's not even any discussion...except for how much of an @ss you are.

Either Holden has less of a life than even myself, or he knows of some pretty obscure websites that spew ridiculously minute movie trivia on a constant basis... I hope this thread keeps up though, I enjoy reading what thmilin has to say :)

I'm listing movies based on true stories that I've enjoyed.

And this thread was over a long time ago.




The Sugarland Express (1974) !

Yet it still goes on.
We must see how "smart" Holden is.

Smart.
I just snotted myself.
Yuck.

Never Cry Wolf (1983) !