Lost in Translation
Lost in Translation A+++
The following review that I have found....I just can't agree more. ;)
Lyrical and deeply touching, "Lost in Translation" is, first and foremost, the tale of two human beings lost both in their own lives and in their surroundings who unexpectedly discover a kindred connection. From the very beginning, all Bob and Charlotte can muster asking themselves is how they have ended up where they are. Struggling through a wildly different culture than their own and dealing with a serious language barrier, they are stuck in a lonely rut. However, when on their second run-in Bob and Charlotte lock eyes across their smoky hotel bar, the moment they share is not simply one of desperation between two Americans in a foreign setting, but something more. Although Bob is about 25 years Charlotte's senior, their ages are a refreshing non-issue, and when Charlotte approaches Bob and strikes up a conversation, they find themselves understanding each other with more clarity than their significant others' ever have. Writer-director Coppola's assured screenplay never feels the need to enter into a conventional romance between her two central lost souls, but allows the relationship to play out through a more natural set of developments. The result is as intimate, humane, and heartfelt as any love story this year. Second, "Lost in Translation" is an utterly gorgeous travelogue of Tokyo and its bordering regions. Director Coppola wisely offers no information about the characters' vital backdrop other than what they themselves know, thoughtfully putting the viewer in a place without any advantage over their protagonists. As unusual as the culture and language is to Bob and Charlotte, it is just as bewildering to us. Nonetheless, through its scenic camerawork by cinematographer Lance Acord (2002's "Adaptation"), Tokyo is presented as a rapturous visual delight, unlike any other place on Earth. Relatedly, Charlotte makes her way late in the film to the city's bordering countryside and ancient temples, and all that needs to be said about the Japanese culture's poignant fight between the past's customs and the present's modern ways—and Charlotte's self-recognition of this very fact—is achieved through a series of completely wordless shots. Not stopping there, Acord and Coppola choose to shoot much of their film as if there is a struggle going on over what framing subject should be in focus and what shouldn't. Sometimes, it takes a few moments for the characters to clear up in a particular scene, as if even through their aesthetic presentation they are constantly on the verge of getting lost in their surroundings. In terms of their innovation and their narrative importance, each shot is simply exquisite. In essence a two-character motion picture, the picture's ultimate success or failure falls upon the heads of Bill Murray (1998's "Rushmore") and Scarlett Johansson (2001's "Ghost World"), and there will likely not be a more accomplished screen duo for the rest of the year. As Bob Harris, Murray injects his own brand of quirkily winning humor to some scenes, such as a hilariously nightmarish experience on a piece of exercise equipment, and a large helping of unblinking humanity to his every moment. Murray's Bob is a man almost indifferent to his emotionally dead marriage as he continues to go through the motions of his family life and flagging career, and the actor plays these often unspoken subtleties with pitch-perfect grace. The 18-year-old Scarlett Johansson, playing someone about four years older than she, matches Murray with a wise-beyond-her-years turn that is not surprising from a young actress who has proven her talent in the past, but most definitely is unanticipated. There is true depth, not to mention an emotional tug-of-war, within Charlotte's interior that speaks far louder than words, and it is a testament to Johansson's startlingly mature craft that she nails each and every layer of her complex character. Giovanni Ribisi (2000's "The Gift") and Anna Faris (2003's "May") turn up in vital supporting roles that are purposefully archetypal rather than three-dimensional, all in the name of further giving Bob and Charlotte very real wake-up calls. Ribisi plays Charlotte's husband, John, as a man who loves his wife without really taking the time to prove it or listen to her. Meanwhile, Faris has some fun as a flaky Hollywood actress in Tokyo promoting her latest action film who is shallow without ever becoming intentionally vain. More could have been done with Faris' small role as Kelly, but all that really needs to be said about her is summed up in her final scene, as she gleefully and cluelessly embarrasses herself singing karaoke to Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better." The music, with especially notable song selections from The Jesus and Mary Chain, Phoenix, Happy End, Kevin Shields, and My Bloody Valentine, is pitch-perfect, lovingly accentuating every scene they are accompanying rather than merely an excuse to sell soundtrack albums. This is no more true than in the film's two most alive moments—a karaoke free-for-all in which Bill Murray does a charming rendition of "Peace, Love, and Understanding" and Scarlett Johansson performs "Brass in Pocket;" and the heartbreaking closing sequence, which manages to be both hopeful and tragic at the same time without stepping into easy sentimentality. Every last element of "Lost in Translation"—save for the beautiful love story at its center—symbolizes with brilliant clarity the disorienting feeling of being out of place and lost in an alien setting, and it is done without any signs of a heavy hand. In her sophomore effort, writer-director Sofia Coppola has proven she has the very same filmmaking talent as her father, Francis Ford Coppola, if not more so. She has a way of getting to the heart of her characters and really, truly trying to understand them and their place in the world. "Lost in Translation" is a fascinating and highly original piece of work, while at the same time a compassionate love story that never rings false. When its closing moments arrive, simple and pure, it may just blindside you with its sheer cumulative power. |
A+++
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How long has this movie been out ? It's only just reached here !
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Originally Posted by MinionTV
How long has this movie been out ? It's only just reached here !
One of my favorite movies of 2003. |
It came out recently here too, Mini.
Altho I liked some of it, I wouldn't say it was one of my favorites of 2003. The portrayal of the two main characters was excellent, however I found some parts of the film quite derogatory toward the Japanese in general. It was an original piece of work tho, just didn't captivate my full attention all the way thru. |
I heard some good things about and some bad things about it!
I did not see it yet!Actly I remember seeing it on tv for the movies and then I forgot about it!Is it still at the movies or on video?
For what I read I think it has a interesting plot and I like Bill Murey he is a good actor! "What About Bob" is the funnist movie I seen him in!See you around!JM :cool: :p ;) :D :) |
i thought the movie was excellent ..the performances by bill murray and scarlett johansson were worth the price of admission alone....
it's still playing in some theatres in new york..not too many tho |
"'Lip' them?"
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Lost in Translation will be released on R1 video February 3rd. |
From the looks of it, Bill Murray is a shoe in for the Oscar this year.
...and Scarlett. Hubba-hubba. |
Bill Murray is never a shoo in. He "should" get a nomination this year, but I thought he damn well should have gotten nominations for Rushmore and Tootsie. He was completely snubbed by The Academy then, and those were only Supporting Acting nominations, which they are generally more lenient and experimental with. I'll believe he's getting a Best Actor nomination after I see it.
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Originally Posted by Holden Pike
Bill Murray is never a shoo in. He "should" get a nomination this year, but I thought he damn well should have gotten nominations for Rushmore and Tootsie. He was completely snubbed by The Academy then, and those were only Supporting Acting nominations, which they are generally more lenient and experimental with. I'll believe he's getting a Best Oscar nomination after I see it.
I remember wondering why he was snubbed the Rushmore year, but it isn't the first time the Academy made me scratch my head...Goodfellas for example. |
But at least GoodFellas had multiple nominations (and a win for Pesci).
Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it. Yes, Murray has received many, many accolades already, and he is definitely an odds-on favorite for a nod. But ask the multi-Golden Globe-winning actor Jim Carrey if that necessarily translates into Oscar nominations. |
I really enjoyed this film, this is a kind of film that gets better in your mind as you reflect on it after seeing it, definately 10/10.
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One of the years best
In a year of lame sequels and studio pabulum (oh, wait...that's every year), "Lost In Translation" is excellent and refreshingly different from every formula movie out there. For those who like movies with "mature" subject matter, this is one of the year's best.
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Saw this film tonight and absoloutly loved it. Beautifully shot, emotionally satisfying and amazingly scripted. I fell in love with both Murrey, Johansson and Tokyo. Every scene was so beaitfully shot it portrayed Tokyo as being a intensly bizarre, fun, noisy, beautiful and incredible place to visit. If only i could go there and view the place with the philosophising eyes that Johannson does. what a peacful way to look at such an odd odd place. Great film. Great acting. Great Script. Great Cinematography. Great work. I want Oscars for this film please. :yup:
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Yes. 'Twas quite the beautiful movie.
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centering around an ennui-induced may-to-september romance blooming like apple blossom between murray and johansson, coppola captures wonderfully the mood of ennui, particularly in those scenes of johansson lolling around her apartment in pink panties or smoking the night away, or in murray's tired, world-weary face and sardonic repartee. the problem though lies when that ennui overwhelms the characters and starts creeping into the film itself, which ultimately, in places, it does. while the first half is filled with the bright downtown neon lights of tokyo (more like the klf's grimey take on downtown, than lulu's clean original) the second, from after the karaoke scene, doesn't visually hold the attention as much, even as it builds up to the denouement of these two star crossed lovers' affair. that's not to say that the second half fails, just that it is the harder half of the film.
the first half has by far the greater share of the comedy, though some of it seems too easy, bill murray towering over short people, the constant laughs at l's pronounced as r's and r's pronounced as l's and the flicking through the tv channels marvelling at foreign tv. they amuse, but they just seem too easy, too effortless. but slowly even that turns around and the film isn't just about west laughing at east, but also about west laughing at east laughing at west, particularly in the hospital scene where murray's total inability to comprehend what is being said to him makes others laugh at him. and you can't just be laughing at the inherent comedy of foreign cultures when you laugh at the talk show murray appears on, the japanese host being a cross between austin powers and graham norton. the joke's on us, as much as it's on them. and of course there's the easy celebrity barbs and you can't imagine cameron diaz sending sofia coppola congratulatory telegrams when lost in translation picks up the bangles and baubles it inevitably will in awards season (and nor will sofia's ex, spike jonz, if it's true she based ribisi's character (johansson's photographer husband) on him). whether it's really diaz coppola is digging at or not seems unimportant, the point is whether enough people believe it to be diaz by the starlet hawking her kung-fun action flick. like thirteen recently, this is a fake film within the film that sounds all too promising and almost worth pitching for production. in thirteen there was operation kandahar with john cusack and adventures of ezekiel ball with jack black, and here we have keanu reeves dying and being reincarnated in midnight velocity, which i for one would probly pay money to see. but of course the love affair is the harder part of the story to tell, the tragedy of the border between love and friendship, bill starting out paternal and laconically indifferent, and slowly the gulf between them growing narrower until all that it would take to step across it is a kiss on the lips. it's all captured wonderfully in the hurt and heartbroken look on johansson's face when she discovers the man she is slowly being drawn towards has had sex with another, no matter how casual or meaningless it turns out to be and no matter that the love between johansson and murray is still unspoken. there is emotional truth in the film in that sense, and without the conventional rom-com happy ending of happy couples living happily ever after, lost in translation seems easily superior to a lot of the other rom-coms out there. the happy ending is left for other movies and here he goes home to a marriage going through turbulence on auto-pilot and she's left with her marriage, to make of it what she will. his whispered farewell to her - telling her to tell the truth, presumably to her husband about what has happened the past few days - suggests that this emotional entanglement will not of itself destroy her marriage but nor will it necessarily make it stronger. the slow closing of the gulf between these two strangers in a strange place is done nicely, she seductively singing the pretender's brass in pocket and he singing back with roxy music's more than this, and despite all the others in the karaoke booth with them, they're singing to each other and you can see it in their eyes and hear it in their voices. and the next night, as they meet in her hotel room and watch marcello mastroianni and anita ekberg cavort in the trevi fountain in la dolce vita, they draw closest, lying side-by-side on her bed, talking their lives away, and only the gentlest of touch from murray's fingers on her bare feet as physical contact between them. but emotionally they already seem joined at the hip, joined at both hips. while their affair has been chaste, it ends with johansson being chased down a tokyo street by murray on his way to the airport, a kiss-and-make-up final farewell and that whisper that allows them both to get back to their own lives, still always having tokyo. |
Originally Posted by LordSlaytan
From the looks of it, Bill Murray is a shoe in for the Oscar this year.
...and Scarlett. Hubba-hubba. Nice review bte LoopDiLoop. I haven't seen it yet, but your review seems to sum up nicely all the reviews and scenes i have seen (including my reservations about some of the "easy" culture comedy) |
This may be a bit late, but great review jrs! I coudn't agree more. In retrospect, this is one of my favorite movies.
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Quite definitely the best movie of the last 10 years.
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Originally Posted by Henry The Kid
Quite definitely the best movie of the last 10 years.
Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Boogie Nights, Rushmore, The Talented Mr. Ripley and Traffic. Among others. |
Points deducted here for contextual indulgences.
The story comes off better if it wasn't such plain wish fulfillment, the Goddaughter casting Johannsen as a slightly wryer and wittier self and all while trying so painfully hard to duck the autobiographical label. Because, let's face it, it is autobiography, only without any self-deprecation and with all the touching parts fictionalized. I would have been much more pleased if she had openly embraced all the self-reference and ran with any homages or indulgent themes she had wanted to. Still, with all that being said, it was a good picture. Just way too easy in subject matter and process to be collecting all the accollades it has. After all, there's still something to be said for challenging, I think. |
Originally Posted by The Silver Bullet
Pft.
Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Boogie Nights, Rushmore, The Talented Mr. Ripley and Traffic. Among others. |
Well, I saw and loved this movie all over again the other day. I retract, though not fully, some of the films noted on the list in my my previous post.
Lost in Translation is one of this decade's best. |
As soon as I'd watched it in the cinema I ordered the R1 DVD. This is the first time I've done this. It's just one of those films you can watch frequently and come away with something different each time.
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Just happened to catch this on video today for the first time and I can't argue about the originality or greatness of the film. Its different, and for me more magnetic to let the media be used instead of being led through a story like we're all zombies. It's a compliment to the moviegoers that Copolla didn't feel the need to explain every bit of the plot but instead let us experience the film. I also think that it was easy for me to grasp the perspective of both main characters which is applause for both Murray and Johannsen. After reading the point about the Cameron Diaz parody, I have to admit I was too engulfed in what the characters were feeling to put two and two together at that point. If you like to think and feel, you'll love this film...its one you can have respect for.
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Hubba-Hubba is right
Originally Posted by LordSlaytan
From the looks of it, Bill Murray is a shoe in for the Oscar this year.
...and Scarlett. Hubba-hubba. |
Originally Posted by Edwin
Before I review this fine film by Sofia Coppola, I must say that if I had been Bill Murray, there would have been no way I could've resisted a nice little roll in the sack with Scarlett before leaving Japan. Her character was literally starving for some good loving. It made you wonder what in the world was wrong with Giovanni Ribisi's character.
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Originally Posted by Tacitus
Nope, definately a cold shower (with a cup of bromide tea afterwards)...
This is just the beginning. I'm about to offer a colorful collage of what I think are the hottest babes on the Hollywood circuit today. Stay tuned.Because by the time I'm through you'll probably be telling me to stand beneath Niagra Falls for the rest of my life. By the way, I don't believe Bill Murray would've needed a cold shower. Scarlett was right there. |
Sofia Coppola makes a Godard movie.
Overrated, but at least she didn't act in the film. |
Originally Posted by Edwin
This is just the beginning. I'm about to offer a colorful collage of what I think are the hottest babes on the Hollywood circuit today. Stay tuned.Because by the time I'm through you'll probably be telling me to stand beneath Niagra Falls for the rest of my life.
By the way, I don't believe Bill Murray would've needed a cold shower. Scarlett was right there. |
Great movie. Everyone kept telling me that it sucked. I'm glad I didn't listen to them. I want to buy it soon.
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It's one of my Top 10 and I can't imagine that changing.
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The film isn't trying to hard being something it ain't, but still it does great.
Love the film, and that's final! |
great movie, that treadmill bit had me in stitches
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I agree, its one of the best films ive seen this year. Doesnt go over the top and bill murray is brilliant.
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Sheesh I can't believe my 2 posts in this thread are berating a sore-handed kid and not praising this excellent movie.
It's an excellent movie, 'nuff said. |
I bought it a few days ago, I love it. :yup:
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This movie's the bomb fo' sho'. More like a piece of music with killer transitions. I don't really know how to explain it other than I want to make sweet-sweet love to the DVD. I've already done it once.
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The movie is probably loved by all at this forum but I felt totally underwhelmed by it. I like Bill Murray but he didn't pull off the huge movie star required in the movie and Scarlet Johansson's role was massively overrated much like the movie.
There's no doubting the cinematography but the story is non-existent. How this movie can even be considered a comedy is beyond me but now that my rant is over I'd like to hear the opinions of others. |
Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused
There's no doubting the cinematography but the story is non-existent. How this movie can even be considered a comedy is beyond me but now that my rant is over I'd like to hear the opinions of others.
i dont think it is about the story, either, which is why i believe it can get away without having a typical one. Much of what is the story, or rather the themes are coveyed using cinematography instead of story. (for instance the duality between old and new japan, as well as the disconnection between character and surrounding) this is one of my favorite movies, and i would be happy to talk it over with everyone, so if someone disagrees with me, post your opinion by all means! :) |
I didn't see LIT as a comedy either, just a well written & acted modern take on Brief Encounter.
I think it's excellent. :) |
Originally Posted by Zeiken
i dont think it is a comedy. I think it just uses comedy to emphasise some of the other things the movie is trying to say.
This movie was, unfortunately, packaged as a comedy. It's much more a drama, but it's hard to classify, I think, in standard genre terms. It's not really a romance, but it is a love story, not a buddy picture but has elements of that... It's a beautiful mishmash of things. I am touched, every time (and I've seen it 7 times now) by the simple line "you're not hopeless" and I always feel so great at the end. It's a wonderful film. |
Originally Posted by Zeiken
i dont think it is a comedy. I think it just uses comedy to emphasise some of the other things the movie is trying to say.
i dont think it is about the story, either, which is why i believe it can get away without having a typical one. Much of what is the story, or rather the themes are coveyed using cinematography instead of story. (for instance the duality between old and new japan, as well as the disconnection between character and surrounding) this is one of my favorite movies, and i would be happy to talk it over with everyone, so if someone disagrees with me, post your opinion by all means! :) |
Well, I think we can at least all agree that Scarlett Johannsen is incredibly hot.
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Originally Posted by MysticalMoose
Well, I think we can at least all agree that Scarlett Johannsen is incredibly hot.
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Scarlett...she also looked really good in The Perfect Score, i think it was called.
she still visits my dreams.... |
I really liked LIT, it's a slow burn type of movie, loved the central performances and thought Tokyo was as much a character of the film as Giovanni Ribisi. The cinematography was amazing, I read that they stole a lot of shots as they didn't have the proper permission. For me the film was more of a forbidden love story, Bob knows he's too old for Charlotte, and they're both married. Sometimes circumstances can bring people together that normally wouldn't, at the core , it's two lonely people looking for companionship. In a way, I'm glad they didn't end up together, it was kind of bitter-sweet rather than the normal schmoltze.
Bill Murray is a fine actor, but I think people expect every movie he's in to be a barrel of laughs. I think he should be up for Oscar Nomination next year, looks like Broken Flowers might be the one, who knows. Again he's been excellent in The Royal Tenenbaums, and from what I gather The Life Aquatic. Come on , give Bill an Oscar. |
lost in translation is definitely an aquired taste. the movie would of definitely sucked up they slept together. the movie was jus about 2 people who were in a different country and both were in the same place in their relationships.
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Originally Posted by Darth Stujitzu
For me the film was more of a forbidden love story, Bob knows he's too old for Charlotte, and they're both married.
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Originally Posted by MysticalMoose
Well, I think we can at least all agree that Scarlett Johannsen is incredibly hot. |
Lost In Translation is a gorgeous film. Definitely in my top 3.
I know some people have complained about this film because not a lot happens, but I think they miss the point. It is bittersweet and quirky and fascinating, beautifully filmed. The music is excellent. |
Originally Posted by LordSlaytan
...and Scarlett. Hubba-hubba.
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I saw this one on my plane trip from Australia to America. Came across some cool stills of the film and thought I'd share:
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Bill Murray was superb and I think his Oscar nomination was richly deserved, but the movie as a whole, was pointless and confusing to me.
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Re: Lost in Translation
Great film :)
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