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SeeingisBelieving 01-07-17 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by ShopkeeperTriumph (Post 1624171)
I'm on board. I liked Prometheus well enough despite the problems I had with it, and this one looks closer to the original, both my favorite horror, and sci fi film of all time arguably. But, who knows. Mr. Scott is very sporadic in terms of film quality, you never know when he's going to drop a a good one. I mean, I thought The Martian was his best since Thelma and Louise, and that was coming off of the heels of Exodus, which I've heard isn't very good.
I liked Prometheus as well; Exodus is apparently a bad one. I think Gladiator is the last really good film he made, but I haven't seen a large percentage of his films since then.

Sir Toose 01-07-17 02:49 PM

Looks... not bad.

I feel a certain amount of distrust for the prequels.

Ever since I saw Alien in about 1980 I wondered who that big alien strapped into the seat was in the derelict space ship.

In Prometheus, they almost explained it. Big Alien, big chair, straps himself in... I'm thinking aha, so now I know. THEN he gets out of the chair and gets killed in another part of the ship which is completely incongruent with the story line.

I have a feeling this will be another 'predator like' money grab.

SeeingisBelieving 01-07-17 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Toose (Post 1624269)
Looks... not bad.

I feel a certain amount of distrust for the prequels.

Ever since I saw Alien in about 1980 I wondered who that big alien strapped into the seat was in the derelict space ship.

In Prometheus, they almost explained it. Big Alien, big chair, straps himself in... I'm thinking aha, so now I know. THEN he gets out of the chair and gets killed in another part of the ship which is completely incongruent with the story line.

I have a feeling this will be another 'predator like' money grab.
Aliens is really the only film that can compare with Alien for quality.

I didn't mind Prometheus not connecting directly to Alien. In fact it probably came about because of the non-literal way they went with the Engineers, i.e. the remains in Alien being shown to be a suit rather than the appearance of the aliens themselves. That was clever and the idea of inverting their body colour to white rather than the black of the Alien was also very smart. It will be interesting if Alien: Covenant does link directly to Alien and whether we think it was the right decision to hold off; or, that Prometheus would have been a better story to link to Alien instead.

Sleezy 01-11-17 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 1624187)
I liked Prometheus as well; Exodus is apparently a bad one. I think Gladiator is the last really good film he made, but I haven't seen a large percentage of his films since then.
For me, Black Hawk Down (2001) and American Gangster (2008) are his standouts since Gladiator, along with The Martian (2015), although that film has Andy Weir's fabulous novel to thank for the source material. Body of Lies (2008) was also very good and, although it wasn't terribly well received, I find Robin Hood (2010) to be a lot of fun.

Gladiator (2000), to its credit, is also a lot of fun... but it should never have won a Best Picture Oscar. It's very superficial, very smarmy, just like his later sword-and-sandal epics. And Joaquin Phoenix, though he did what he could, fell a bit into the trap of overacting the villain. (Miss Vicky will swat me for saying that.)

The Rodent 01-11-17 10:54 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
Ridley Scott is an odd director.
He makes either a masterpiece, or complete bilge.

Sleezy 01-11-17 10:59 PM

Well, the Coens do that too. Even Spielberg makes stinkers from time to time. By now, I think these guys are more apt to pick risky passion projects because they've reached a measure of success that all but guarantees a studio will fund whatever they want to make.

TheUsualSuspect 01-11-17 11:54 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
I'm very surprised that I'm not....excited for this at all.

Nausicaä 01-13-17 05:46 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
^ Felt the same when I saw the new trailer. Shall see.

Raven73 01-14-17 09:36 PM

The trailer looks like an amalgamation of the first Alien movie and Prometheus, and thus not very exciting.

I'm glad to see in IMDB that the Elizabeth Shaw character is back. I liked her unbreakable faith and Ripley-like intelligence.

SeeingisBelieving 01-15-17 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Raven73 (Post 1627603)
The trailer looks like an amalgamation of the first Alien movie and Prometheus, and thus not very exciting.

I'm glad to see in IMDB that the Elizabeth Shaw character is back. I liked her unbreakable faith and Ripley-like intelligence.
I was disappointed that we weren't picking up from the end of Prometheus, or some time after the end. I wonder if the intention is to have Shaw back properly in the third film (though I doubt it)?

SeeingisBelieving 01-18-17 03:10 PM

A while back I remember some comments about how the 'births' in Alien: Covenant don't make sense –

WARNING: spoilers below
because the Alien we're familiar with grew in the chest cavity so it already had an easier way out. Apparently in this one, embryos grow in a crewmember's back and the other in someone's throat.

I wonder whether the writers have looked to Greek Mythology again here, as I was thinking today about Zeus and two instances where his children are born from his own body – Athena from his head after he has a supposed headache; and Dionysus from his thigh.

SeeingisBelieving 02-25-17 09:54 AM

Very good, that new prologue/trailer.

WARNING: spoilers below
I found the interaction of the crewmembers very believable and convincing. Clever red herring that I kind of saw coming given the 'Last Supper' tagline. I continue to be very impressed with Billy Crudup, who really I think is on a par with Michael Fassbender – Fassbender made me laugh at the end with that weird little smile Walter does, like the android has trouble making it look naturally human :).

SeeingisBelieving 02-28-17 02:55 PM

Surprised there's not been any further discussion about the prologue scene – anyone else seen it?

Dani8 02-28-17 03:11 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
I'm looking forward to this.

Saunch 02-28-17 04:56 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
Trying to keep it at a minimum for this since I got burned badly by Prometheus.

I liked the prologue. It's strangely eerie while also being festive (we know what's going to happen to these people after all) and I like the hints at disfunction between the crew members.

Plus some sly suggestiveness from Walter and Daniels.

SeeingisBelieving 02-28-17 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1658840)
Trying to keep it at a minimum for this since I got burned badly by Prometheus.
Fair enough – not an easy task these days.

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1658840)
I liked the prologue. It's strangely eerie while also being festive (we know what's going to happen to these people after all) and I like the hints at disfunction between the crew members.

Plus some sly suggestiveness from Walter and Daniels.
Early days but Crudup's character is

WARNING: spoilers below
giving me an Ash vibe.

Saunch 02-28-17 05:44 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
Hadn't thought about that.

I was thinking Carter Burke.

Little Devil 02-28-17 05:46 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
Will this be Prometheus school of stupid as well?

SeeingisBelieving 02-28-17 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1658877)
Hadn't thought about that.

I was thinking Carter Burke.
It definitely seems like there's more to Crudup's character, but it could also be that he's far too interesting to watch ;). I remember seeing Paul McGann in his first Hornblower appearance as Bush, where he stole the production just by being enigmatic. I knew nothing about the original story or the character, but even if I had I'd still have wondered whether Bush was an Admiralty plant.

Saunch 02-28-17 06:36 PM

Re: Alien: Covenant footage was screened. Results are in...
 
Originally Posted by Little Devil (Post 1658880)
Will this be Prometheus school of stupid as well?
Prometheus and school in the same question? Someone's attended.


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