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The Movie Nominations for the Asian Film HoF https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75429 Rashomon 'Rashômon' (1950) Dir: Akira Kurosawa Country: Japan 1h 28min Allaby https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75430 Black Rain 'Kuroi ame' (1989) Dir: Shôhei Imamura Country: Japan 2h 3min Citizen Rules https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75431 Mother 'Madeo' (2009) Dir: Bong Joon-ho Country: South Korea 2h 9min CosmicRunaway https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75432 Drunken Angel 'Yoidore tenshi' (1948) Dir: Akira Kurosawa Country: Japan 1h 42min Edarsenal https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75433 Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow 'Se ying diu sau' (1978) Dir: Woo-Ping Yuen Country: Hong Kong 1h 30min Hashtag https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75434 Tears of the Black Tiger 'Fah talai jone' (2000) Dir: Wisit Sasanatieng Country: Thailand 1h 50min Jiraffejustin https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75435 Chocolate (2008) Dir: Prachya Pinkaew Country: Thailand 1h 32min PahaK https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75436 Paprika 'Papurika' (2006) Dir: Satoshi Kon Country: Japan 1h 30min Rbrayer https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75437 Daimajin (1966) Dir: Kimiyoshi Yasuda Country: Japan 1h 24min Siddon https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75438 Hanagatami (2017) Dir: Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Country: Japan 2h 49min Ueno_station54 https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75428 Dust in the Wind 'Liàn liàn fengchén' (1986) Dir: Hou Hsiao-hsien Country: Taiwan 1h 49min Wyldesyde . |
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well, well well!
Looks like I'm off to pick me a proper nomination lol Thank you SO MUCH CR for taking on the Hosting mantle for this!! |
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Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2189453)
well, well well!
Looks like I'm off to pick me a proper nomination lol Thank you SO MUCH CR for taking on the Hosting mantle for this!! |
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and very glad to be here.
Just sent my nomination over |
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I'll consider this. I have no idea what to nominate, though. Quite a few titles that have popped up are hard to find or bound to piss other participants off or even both.
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Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2189489)
I'll consider this. I have no idea what to nominate, though. Quite a few titles that have popped up are hard to find or bound to piss other participants off or even both.
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I've never gotten the chance to participate in a HoF. I'm in for sure.
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Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2189489)
I'll consider this. I have no idea what to nominate, though. Quite a few titles that have popped up are hard to find or bound to piss other participants off or even both.
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Oh, and in.
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I'm in. I'm only in the mood for a small HOF at the moment (but if this ends up having lotsa participants I don't mind that either).
I'll be interested to see how many noms we get that aren't from Japan or South Korea. |
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Sounds good. Sign me up!
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Originally Posted by HashtagBrownies (Post 2189525)
I'm in. I'm only in the mood for a small HOF at the moment (but if this ends up having lotsa participants I don't mind that either).
I'll be interested to see how many noms we get that aren't from Japan or South Korea. |
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My nom is from Thailand, but I'm not against watching a bunch of Japanese films. or South Korean films.
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Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 2189592)
My nom is from Thailand, but I'm not against watching a bunch of Japanese films. or South Korean films.
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Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2189489)
I'll consider this. I have no idea what to nominate, though. Quite a few titles that have popped up are hard to find or bound to piss other participants off or even both.
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Now that the thread is real, it looks like I'll have to rewatch the film I was considering nominating sooner rather than later haha.
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So far we have eight members, yahoo! Even if we get a lot more people there will be extra time if needed for this, so no worries.
We have some awesome films so far! When I have some free time I'll post a teaser with the names of countries are noms came from. |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 2189592)
My nom is from Thailand, but I'm not against watching a bunch of Japanese films. or South Korean films.
Apichatpong Weerasethaku. |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2189607)
If it isn’t Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives I’m flipping this table in front of me......unless it’s any film from
Apichatpong Weerasethaku. |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 2189635)
It's not from Joe, so go ahead and flip it.
+1 rep for referencing him by his nickname. |
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May I join?
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I'm in! PMing you my nomination shortly
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Just for reference, here are the Asian films that are already in our illustrious Hall of Fame:
Sansho The Baliff (1954 Kenji Mizoguchi) High and Low (Akira Kurosawa 1963) Raise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou, 1992) Spirited Away (2001 Hayao Miyazaki) A Separation (2011 Asghar Farhadi) Not many. |
Originally Posted by Olivier Parent (Post 2189643)
May I join?
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When is the deadline for nominations?
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Originally Posted by Olivier Parent (Post 2189643)
May I join?
Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2189666)
When is the deadline for nominations?
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sounds like a plan
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I sent in my nomination. It shouldn't cause as much anxiety in people as In a Glass Cage did (I had a bit more triggering option as well, but decided otherwise). Let's hope people like action films :)
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I rewatched the film I was going to nominate last night but...I wasn't super into it this time around. Still really like the direction it takes, and appreciate how it doesn't go down the expected route, but the runtime just felt really long this time. My second choice, which I'm rewatching this evening is actually half an hour longer, so we'll see how that goes haha.
I do have a third film in mind to rewatch in case that goes poorly too. Hopefully I still like at least one of these. |
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This is shaping up pretty nicely:) PahaK just sent his nomination in and that makes 10 members so far. I will do the reveal on Friday.
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Will sit this out mainly due to time constraints but look forward to seeing the noms
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Damn, too much things going on. Barely holding on to the HOF24 and the Personal Rec and now this :laugh:
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After trying and failing to sit through option #2, I might actually go with my first choice now. Hopefully I have time to watch the third one before Friday.
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So how is the breakdown by country represented so far?
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Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2189816)
I sent in my nomination. It shouldn't cause as much anxiety in people as In a Glass Cage did (I had a bit more triggering option as well, but decided otherwise). Let's hope people like action films :)
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Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 2189936)
After trying and failing to sit through option #2, I might actually go with my first choice now. Hopefully I have time to watch the third one before Friday.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/Rf8836e560...sl=&pid=ImgRaw |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2189964)
So how is the breakdown by country represented so far?
Leading the pack is Japan with 6 films. Then Thailand with 2 films. And Hong Kong & Taiwan with 1 film each. |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2189985)
OK so far:
Leading the pack is Japan with 6 films. Then Thailand with 2 films. And Hong Kong & Taiwan with 1 film each. No nominations from South Korea is an even bigger one. |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2189992)
Thailand second is a surprise.
No nominations from South Korea is an even bigger one. |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2189992)
Thailand second is a surprise.
No nominations from South Korea is an even bigger one. |
Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2189970)
you're over thinking this -
I think when I rewatched it, I wasn't in the right mood, and since I knew everything that was going to happen, that made it feel longer than it was. I still like it though, and it would be interesting to see how everyone feels about it. Alright, mind made up. Going to send CR the film asap so I don't back out or change it haha. |
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When looking for a poster to send CR, that little google information sidebar gave me this absolute gem of a genre :p:
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Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 2190190)
Yes, I 100% am. I've been doing that a lot when trying to think of what to nominate for these HoFs for some reason. I think I'll just go with my first choice, since I was going to nominate it for a previous HoF as well, but changed my mind then too.
I think when I rewatched it, I wasn't in the right mood, and since I knew everything that was going to happen, that made it feel longer than it was. I still like it though, and it would be interesting to see how everyone feels about it. Alright, mind made up. Going to send CR the film asap so I don't back out or change it haha. There's been SO many times I second guessed myself and wished I went with something else later, so now I just let a film pop up, trust my gut and run with it. Regardless, I'm pretty d@mn happy to have a Cosmic film to look forward to :) |
I went with a Japanese film that was the best of it's genre in the hopes it makes the top 100. It has zero chance at winning but for those that watch it they should enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2190204)
I went with a Japanese film that was the best of it's genre in the hopes it makes the top 100. It has zero chance at winning but for those that watch it they should enjoy it.
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And Cosmic now makes it 11 members...and adds a new country: South Korea.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2189985)
OK so far:
Leading the pack is Japan with 6 films. Then Thailand with 2 films. And Hong Kong & Taiwan with 1 film each. |
Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2190243)
No Indonesian horror :(
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Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2190243)
No Indonesian horror :(
Was hoping to see one from them as wel |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 2190244)
If you gottem, PM me some Indonesian horror recs.
May the Devil Take You is also considered quite good, but I personally prefer Timo Tjahjanto's action films. There's also a sequel that I haven't yet seen. |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2190216)
And Cosmic now makes it 11 members...and adds a new country: South Korea.
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@jiraffejustin @edarsenal @HashtagBrownies @Allaby @Siddon @Wyldesyde19 @ueno_station54 @rbrayer @pahaK @CosmicRunaway
The movie nominations are up on the 2nd post! Lots of great choices! Thanks all for picking such cool stuff:) Deadline to watch the movies and submit a voting list is June 1st, that's 11 weeks (if I counted correctly):p |
Looks like a great lineup! Happy viewing everyone!
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2190375)
@jiraffejustin @edarsenal @HashtagBrownies @Allaby @Siddon @Wyldesyde19 @ueno_station54 @rbrayer @pahaK @CosmicRunaway
The movie nominations are up on the 2nd post! Lots of great choices! Thanks all for picking such cool stuff:) Deadline to watch the movies and submit a voting list is June 1st, that's 11 weeks (if I counted correctly):p |
Originally Posted by rbrayer (Post 2190390)
Thanks! Super excited - I've seen Rashoman and Paprika but the rest is new. Looking forward to it!
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Yeah don't do that...but yes Daimajin is on youtube
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Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2190398)
Yeah don't do that...but yes Daimajin is on youtube
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Rashomon: A Kurosawa that I find slightly over-rated, but that opinion could change greatly on a re-watch
Black Rain: Never heard of this before, but I like a good drama Mother: I love a good murder thriller. Drunken Angel: Haven’t seen much if any of Kurosawa’s crime films, so this’ll be cool to check out Tears of the Black Tiger: Never heard of this, but from a quick google search it looks cool. Chocolate: Nice! We don’t get enough good autistic person representation in cinema, and apparently this is a good example of that. It’s been in my watchlist for a while and I love a good martial arts film. Paprika: A Kon film that I haven’t seen yet, cool. Daimajin: Only added this to my watchlist recently funnily enough, so I’m eager to see it. Hanagatami: Nice! I always wanted to be more acquainted with Ôbayashi’s later films. Dust in the Wind: Not familiar with this one, but it looks good from a quick google search. Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow: My nom. I’ll post a writeup for it soon. Awesome picks everyone! |
Great lineup! My thoughts.
Rashomon*'Rashômon' (1950) Just watched this last year. Wonder if my opinion on it has changed any? Black Rain*'Kuroi ame' (1989) Shohei never seems to be mentioned among Japans greatest directors but he was a driving force of the Japanese New Wave film movement. His accolades are as impressive as any other. This film, dealing with with the effects of the nuclear bomb on its citizens, is as good as any place to start. Solid choice Mother*'Madeo' (2009) I figured we’d see either Bong or Park get nominated. This one is streaming on Hulu, and I’ve had my eye on it for awhile now. Drunken Angel*'Yoidore tenshi' (1948) Between this and the Personal Recc 3 foreign edition, I’m good. To have plenty of Kurosawa films to watch. Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow*'Se ying diu sau' (1978) Hmmm. Not familiar with this one. Tears of the Black Tiger*'Fah talai jone' (2000) This is that western style film isn’t it? Heard of it, unless I’m mistaken it for some other film. Chocolate*(2008) Same director as Ong Bak, right? Paprika*'Papurika' (2006) Anime. And one I’ve been meaning to check out as well. Daimajin*(1966) Japanese Kaiju says what? The first of the Daimajin trilogy. Hanagatami*(2017) Vaguely know of this, but haven’t looked into it previously. Good pick Dust in the Wind*'Liàn liàn fengchén' (1986) My pick. 🙂 |
This looks like it's going to be an interesting Hall of Fame, and I'm glad I didn't miss out! I've only seen a few of the films, and there are quite a few that I haven't even heard of, but I liked what I saw in the quick google searches I did of them.
Rashomon (1950) - It's been ages since I've seen this, and it was in that block of time during high school when I consumed so many Japanese films in a short period of time that they all started to blur together over the years. I'm looking forward to experiencing this one again, and finally pulling it out of that memory mass! Black Rain (1989) - The title sounds familiar, but I don't recognize the images that turn up at all, so I certainly haven't seen it before. Mother (2009) - This is my nomination! I'm going to write something about it soon (hopefully). Drunken Angel (1948) - I've seen parts of this film before, but not the entire thing. I've been meaning to rectify that, and now I'll finally have the motivation to do so. Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow (1978) - I haven't seen this one either, and it's been a long time since I've watched a Jackie Chan film, so I'm looking forward to it! Tears of the Black Tiger (2000) - I've never heard of this before, and the images that come up when I search it look quite intriguing. Chocolate (2008) - Another film I've never heard of that seems interesting. Paprika (2006) - When I first saw this I wasn't a huge fan, but when I rewatched it for a previous tournament, I really came around on it. The same thing happened with one of Satoshi Kon's other films, Millennium Actress. It's nice to see animation get some more love! Daimajin (1966) - The title doesn't seem familiar, but for some reason the screenshots do. Perhaps I've seen references to this film in passing, but never quite picked up on it. Hanagatami (2017) - Yet another film I've never heard of. Dust in the Wind (1986) - I've at least heard of this one, but that's about it haha. |
Taking a quick peek, this looks like a very fun and exciting HoF list of films. Some intriguing unknowns, a few revisits. . . Thanks to everyone participating and nominating such a wonderfully diverse selection of films!
Rashomon 'Rashômon' (1950) Dir: Akira Kurosawa Country: Japan 1h 28min Allaby This is actually gonna be a two-fer for me since I was lucky enough to have it as a Recommendation in the Foreign Language HoF along with being a Kurosawa I need to see. Black Rain 'Kuroi ame' (1989) Dir: Shôhei Imamura Country: Japan 2h 3min Citizen Rules This is unknown to me but it looks like a great watch Mother 'Madeo' (2009) Dir: Bong Joon-ho Country: South Korea 2h 9min CosmicRunaway Have not seen this intense film in quite some time so looking forward to a revisit Drunken Angel 'Yoidore tenshi' (1948) Dir: Akira Kurosawa Country: Japan 1h 42min Edarsenal This is a Blind Grab for me with Toshirô Mifune's very first film with Kurosawa so it should be a great fit in this Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow 'Se ying diu sau' (1978) Dir: Woo-Ping Yuen Country: Hong Kong 1h 30min Hashtag A young, pre-Hollywood Jackie Chan?? Hell yeah! Tears of the Black Tiger 'Fah talai jone' (2000) Dir: Wisit Sasanatieng Country: Thailand 1h 50min Jiraffejustin Been over a decade since I first saw this. The color scheme in this is almost hallucinogenic (in a glorious way). Looking forward to this revisit Chocolate (2008) Dir: Prachya Pinkaew Country: Thailand 1h 50min PahaK This is an unknown and when I checked it out, something told me to watch the trailer. . . and HOL-EEE SH#T I am SO gonna enjoy this Thailand Action Flick!! Paprika 'Papurika' (2006) Dir: Satoshi Kon Country: Japan 1h 30min Rbrayer This has been on my Watchlist for EVER. YAY Daimajin (1966) Dir: Kimiyoshi Yasuda Country: Japan 1h 24min Siddon What looks like the first of a trilogy this should be a very interesting watch. I was a huge fan of the Giant Monster films as a kid and this looks like it has some serious gravitas to it. Hanagatami (2017) Dir: Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Country: Japan 2h 49min Ueno_station54 Don't believe I've ever seen an Ôbayashi so this should be a wonderful introduction Dust in the Wind 'Liàn liàn fengchén' (1986) Dir: Hou Hsiao-hsien Country: Taiwan 1h 49min Wyldesyde Another unknown that I'll have the pleasure of discovering. |
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https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75448 Mother / 마더 (2009) Directed By: Bong Joon-ho Starring: Kim Hye-ja, Won Bin, Jin Goo Mother is a slow moving film that is as much about it's titular character's growing desperation as it is about the murder mystery at its centre. It can be tense and unnerving at times, but as with many of Joon-ho's other films, it still contains the occasional dose of dark humour that is a little more obvious in the first act than later on. The film starts strong, then meanders a little in the middle, before closing with a strong finish. The first time I watched it, I found it so compelling that I didn't even notice that the central character was never given a name. Kim Hye-ja's performance as the unnamed mother is simply fantastic. Her character's commitment to her son is the driving force behind the plot, and as such Hye-ja carries the bulk of the film's emotional weight on her shoulders. While the mystery she is attempting to unravel is interesting enough in its own right, it is the mother's plight that captivated me throughout the film. It's hard not to sympathize with the poor, single mother who, though a little overbearing, clearly loves her son. The son's mental disability is never fully explained, but I don't think giving the audience his diagnosis would change anything. He's clearly a little naïve, and has issues with recollection and handling unexpected and stressful moments. The first scene at the police station is evidence that he'll agree with an incorrect version of events when someone else leads him into them, and that is all that is needed to set up his later situation. I appreciate the manner in which the story is told, and the unexpected turns it takes to set it apart from the typical thriller. |
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Mother (2009) is on Hulu FYI
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Rashomon - Seen this about a year ago, but I'm down to watch this again. It'll probably be near the last thing I watch for this as I want fresh stuff first. It is great, but not near the top of my favorite Kurosawa films.
Black Rain - I've been meaning to see some Shohei Imamura films, but I thought I was going to start with Vengeance is Mine. Maybe this will be a pleasant surprise. Looks very heavy. Mother - Been on my radar probably since it came out, just never gotten to it. I was in the mood for South Korean thriller last night, my brother is here visiting and had never seen Oldboy, so we watched that. Mother was an option I passed over. Drunken Angel - Much like Hitchcock films, I know that I will eventually see them all, I just don't know what order. This one has been rattling around my watchlist for awhile, but probably more towards the mid-priority than top-priority behind Stray Dog and a couple others. Snake in the Eagle's Shadow - I'm down for some Kung Fu. Tears of the Black Tiger - I nominated this mainly because I wanted a reason to watch it again. It's pretty crazy, I hope others like it too. Chocolate - I know of it, but I don't think I would have really ever gotten to it unless I decided I wanted to take a deeper dive specifically into Thai films. I'm usually pretty happy about films like that when they pop up in one of these, as they often are worthwhile. Paprika - I really dug this one when I saw it several years ago. Looking forward to it again. I've also been meaning to get around to Perfect Blue as well. Daimajin - I've heard of this film, but just briefly. I don't know that I would have chosen to watch it on my own accord any time soon. I'm open to a fun time with it. Hanagatami - This was already on the top-priority watchlist. I expect to love this. Dust in the Wind - Pretty similar feelings to the ones I wrote for Black Rain just replace Shohei Imamura and Vengeance Is Mine with Hsiao-Hsien Hou and A City of Sadness. |
I've only seen 5 so I may try a couple of these out. I saw Black Rain from 89 and thought what the hell that's an American movie until I found the other one.
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Rashomon - It's been a long time since I've seen it, and I hope for my own sake I enjoy it more this time around but as of now I'll be keeping its spot at the bottom of the list warm for it, lol.
Black Rain - I've always known about this film because it was the first film Takashi Miike worked on (he was my gateway to non-American film). I've been meaning to watch some Imamura forever now. Mother - Not a Bong Joon-ho fan really. I liked this when it came out but I don't know if it'll still appeal to me. Drunken Angel - I do need to see more of Kurosawa's non-jidaigeki stuff. Snake in the Eagle's Shadow - Want to dig in to this era of martial arts films a lot more. Very hype. Tears of the Black Tiger - I bought a region 3 DVD of this from a second hand store (even though I don't currently have anything to play it on) just because it looked that cool. High expectations for this one. Chocolate - I remember seeing this DVD cover all the time at Blockbuster. Should be fun. Paprika - Very happy to get to revisit this. Paprika rules. Daimajin - I'd never heard of this but I'm extremely excited for it now. Hanagatami - I picked this because its my favourite applicable film for this. I hope everyone gets as much out of it as I did and if not sorry for that runtime lmao. Dust in the Wind - A friend of mine who digs on Taiwanese film big time gave it 3/5 and that's the extent of my knowledge about this film. The poster looks lovely and that's usually enough to sell me on a film. Looks like mostly cool stuff got picked, I'm looking forward to this. |
Originally Posted by ueno_station54 (Post 2190452)
Mother - Not a Bong Joon-ho fan really. I liked this when it came out but I don't know if it'll still appeal to me.
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I didn't like Snowpiercer at all. I did like The Host but I like Mother better.
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Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 2190475)
Which of his other films have you seen? I didn't like The Host or Snowpiercer. Okja was okay. Really liked Parasite though.
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I've seen The Host and liked it. I seen Snowpiercer and didn't care for it at the time, but I think I was wanting a realistic sci-fi when it was more like a Terry Gilliam film...I should rewatch it one of these days. Still haven't seen Parasite yet.
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Parasite was REALLY good. His best of what I've seen, and I'm of the rare breed who liked Snowpiercer. Liked The Host more the second time around. Remember being very caught up with Mother even with the slow pacing of it.
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You guys should check out Bong Joon Ho's Influenza. It's an interesting short film that is all security camera footage that shows a criminal doing worse and worse sh*t.
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Snake in the Eagle's Shadow My pick for the Hall of Fame. It's not entirely unknown or anything like that, but I wanted to pick something that maybe not many had seen before but something that was also highly entertaining. Jackie Chan plays a mistreated orphan who comes under the wing of a kung-fu master, but soon has to come to his master's aid with his kung-fu skills. If you have to watch this film for any reason, it's Yuen Woo-ping's fantastic fight choreography (Same fight choreographer as Kill Bill and the Matrix btw): The fights go on for excruciatingly long periods of time but they are never boring, they constantly maintain their excitement with amazingly smooth movement and attacking. Not to forget it's combined with the bizarre sound design, where a thud that plays after every punch makes it sound much more impactful. Another aspect to why the film is so entertaining is its comedy: Sure it contains a fair bit of the Jackie Chan style comedy within the fights, despite it being quite early in his career, but a lot of the characters are such walking clichés and stereotypes (the spoiled rich kid for example) that you can't help but laugh at it. The most bizarre character and most bizarre element of the film is a white priest that shows up out of nowhere and yells at people for sinning, hilarious stuff. I don't know about you guys, but I like to watch old kung-fu movies with the English dub, the cheesiness of the voice actors adds a whole other scale of entertainment. I surprisingly have not yet checked out Yuen Woo-ping's much more popular action comedy 'Drunken Master' yet, so I should do that soon. Also a note to animal lovers: One of the key scenes in the film involves a cat fighting a snake. In some cuts of the film, real footage of a cat fighting a snake is shown. From what I've seen though, most of the versions of the film on YouTube have heavily edited the scene so that no contact between the snake or cat is seen, so you should be fine. |
In regards to Bong, I loved Parasite, liked The Host (even if I was left scratching my head about how much it is raved about), didn’t care for Barking Dogs Never Bite.
I prefer the more gritty and violent films of Park. |
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Does this look like a good copy of Daimajin to use @Siddon? |
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Let's see what we have here...
Rashomon: I may or may not have seen this ages ago. In either case, I don't remember anything about it. I've never seen a bad Kurosawa film, though, so it should be at least OK. Black Rain: I think I've heard of this before, but I don't know anything except it's related to the Hiroshima bombing. Mother: Again, don't know anything more than the name and the director. Snowpiercer and The Host are OK. I've also seen Memories of Murder but it's been too long (and I may have it partially mixed with another film). Drunken Angel: Same as Rashomon, except I'm sure I've never seen this before. Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow: I truly respect Jackie Chan's stunts and athleticism, but I haven't exactly enjoyed his movies. I haven't seen his old stuff in like 30 years or something, though, so maybe my opinion will change now. Tears of the Black Tiger: Never heard of this one. It appears to be a comedy, so it may not be for me. It sort of looks interesting though, and it's definitely the first Thai western I'm going to see. Chocolate: My nomination. Great martial arts action (especially towards the end), likable/sympathetic main, and a small cute girl kicking ass. what's not to like. And @Citizen Rules might consider changing the length to 92 minutes (110 min is, according to IMDb, a Thai version but I've never seen such in reality - even the blu ray only has the shorter one). Paprika: Again, a familiar name but not much else. Oh, I was pretty sure it's anime and it looks like I was right. Daimajin: Never heard of this. Too few HoFs have films about giant living stone statues, though, so at least this one's cleared for that. Hanagatami: Nope, never heard of this one. It's long, though, so hopefully it's good too. Dust in the Wind: Never heard of this either. No apparent joke comes to mind either. Looks like a fun line-up with a good portion of stuff I'd never seen otherwise. |
Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2190520)
...Chocolate: My nomination. Great martial arts action (especially towards the end), likable/sympathetic main, and a small cute girl kicking ass. what's not to like.
And @Citizen Rules might consider changing the length to 92 minutes (110 min is, according to IMDb, a Thai version but I've never seen such in reality - even the blu ray only has the shorter one). |
Chocolate (2008)
I've always been a fan of martial arts films. It's probably the most long-lived cinematic passion I have, and while it's been overtaken by a love for horror, these films still have a special place in my heart. It's a physical brand of film-making that's often at its best when you can feel the actors hurting. That's what generally separates western films from Far Eastern ones; the crazy stunts where people put their health and life at stake. Besides the fights, you usually need a sympathetic hero or someone likable for the hero to defend (Steven Seagal manages without this, but he's a special case). JeeJa Yanin's portrayal of an autistic girl trying to get money for her mother's hospital bill is sympathetic for sure. Acting, in general, is above average for an action film like this, but JeeJa is easily the star. The action in Chocolate is a mix of Thai-style Pinkaew created in his earlier films (Ong-bak being the most famous) and Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. JeeJa being this small lady, the fights require a dose of suspension of belief. She does a great job with the fights, though, and especially the ones later in the film are amazing. As usual, there are some bloopers at the start of the end credits that show how much it hurts to make a film like this. On the negative side, the main villain of Chocolate is bland and forgettable. Also, the introduction is a tad too long. Production values are clearly lower than, for example, The Man from Nowhere that was in the 24th HoF. Overall, the positives far outweigh the negatives (for me, at least), and Chocolate is one of my favorite action films of this century. |
大魔神 (1966)
aka Daimajin I love how the Japanese don't care about genre restrictions, be it music or movies or, presumably, any form of art. Daimajin is, at the same time, a samurai epic, a kaiju horror, and a fantasy adventure with the most cliched plot of an evil usurper and a righteous heir in exile (sort of). While the result may not be great, it's quite entertaining and definitely charming. The production values are good for an obvious B-movie. I suppose samurai films were so popular that costumes and sets and props were abundant. But even the more unique aspects are well-made. The mountain hideout and the nearby statue look good, and once the god awakens, it's surprisingly effective and lifelike in its rampage. I was a little disappointed by the lack of blood, but maybe this was meant to be a family-friendly film. I don't know what else to say. Daimajin is an interesting mix of genres, and I wouldn't have watched it without this HoF. It'll never be my favorite, but it was definitely worth a watch. While it's not exactly my kind of movie, it's exactly the kind of nomination I love. |
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Daimajin (1966) Forgive me if you have zero interest in pro wrestling, but everything is pro wrestling. Watching this film I couldn't help but to think back to two specific pro wrestling matches from the largest pro wrestling company's most lucrative time period: The Undertaker vs Mick Foley in a Hell in a Cell match and Triple H vs Mick Foley in a Hell in a Cell match. The Undertaker and Mick Foley is maybe the most famous pro wrestling match of all-time, if you are a fan of the sport(s-entertainment) you've seen at least the two major clips. Mick Foley goes off the side of the cage through the announce table and later goes through the top of the cage to the hard ring below. As far as I know, there was not any sort of build that said Foley was going through the cage in that match, but when it happened, it was organic and it was bananas. Foley vs HHH on the other hand, was built entirely around Foley being willing to dive off the cage to take out HHH. The anticipation for a single moment was off the charts. And while Foley did go through the cage again, it was far less organic, far less satisfying (, and far safer) than the other match. The match with Undertaker had probably worse work outside of the two big spots than the HHH match, but the work itself didn't matter nearly as much to the fans who had sky-high expectations. Daimajin has a very cool look, like a Hulk that I wanted to see smash, and that's pretty much all I wanted in this film. I was promised that Hulk smashing all kinds of sh*t, but I guess, just like the WWF fans in 2000, I should have managed expectations and appreciated what I was getting for what it was. There was a decent enough samurai film going on, but we were all here for the Hulk and not Bruce Banner. But this was like sitting through an hour of decent Bruce Banner for a fantastic ten minutes of Hulk smashing. |
I just rewatched Rashomon, and I think I actually saw this not too long ago and simply forgot. Maybe in preparation for the Japanese Hall of Fame? I think I need to start keeping a movie diary or something, since my memory for these things is getting even worse haha.
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Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 2190596)
I just rewatched Rashomon, and I think I actually saw this not too long ago and simply forgot. Maybe in preparation for the Japanese Hall of Fame? I think I need to start keeping a movie diary or something, since my memory for these things is getting even worse haha.
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Daimajin (Kimiyoshi Yasuda, 1966)
https://mikestakeonthemovies.files.w...daimajin17.jpg It is so messed up that this dumb monster movie looks better than anything that's come out in the last 30 years. This looks so good I can 100% forgive the boilerplate story and weak dialogue and honestly it might even be better for being as simple as it is in those regards. The lighting, camerawork and even the colour grading are very expressive and definitely carry the bulk of the film along with the impressive sets until (obviously) the kaiju action kicks in and oh man it is so, so satisfying when it does. Marked out huge for basically everything the Majin did and the miniatures are maybe some of the best I've ever seen. The only real downside is the score. It's very similar to the Gojira score and leaves no impression whatsoever. That's my only gripe. I was completely blown away by this. Definitely gonna watch the rest of the trilogy at some point. |
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https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75460 Rashomon / 羅生門 (1950) Directed By: Akira Kurosawa Starring: Takashi Shimura, Toshiro Mifune, Kichijiro Ueda Rashomon is a film that focuses on differing perspectives, and how biases can influence our interpretation of events. It questions what the word “truth” means in a world where we are incapable of being completely objective. There is a fantastic use of light and shadow, with clever techniques being used behind the scenes to make the forest's natural light more visible on film. The editing is also great, and I particularly liked how emotionally-charged shots would often abruptly cut to a character sitting quietly in the court before continuing their story. Machiko Kyō's character underwent the most dramatic changes between the different versions of the murder being presented, and she did an admirable job jumping between those personalities. While I certainly enjoyed the performances overall, I sometimes felt that they were just a little too over-the-top for the tone of certain scenes. This more theatrical style of acting did occasionally work well, specifically in the wife's recollection of events, but most of the time I thought it could've been tempered a bit better. Rashomon's ending seems strangely optimistic in comparison to the rest of the film, but supposedly Kurosawa wanted the sky to have a much more foreboding look, and the weather just didn't cooperate. I think another storm cloud brewing in the distance would've been perfect, since hinting that more misery was right around the corner would've made for a much stronger ending. Since that was reportedly Kurosawa's original intention, I'll happy to pretend those shots made it into the final cut of the film. |
Originally Posted by ueno_station54 (Post 2190664)
Marked out
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Just a heads up, if anyone hasn’t mentioned it yet, but Dust in the Wind in available on Amazon Prime if you have it.
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Oh yeah, if anyone needs help finding Hanagatami hmu, I have it up on a google drive.
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Originally Posted by ueno_station54 (Post 2190698)
Oh yeah, if anyone needs help finding Hanagatami hmu, I have it up on a google drive.
Could you PM me your link to Hanagatami hmu? I'm not familiar with Google Drive so probably couldn't find it on my own. |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2190700)
I haven't looked for any of the movies yet, and I should as some might be hard to find.
Could you PM me your link to Hanagatami hmu? I'm not familiar with Google Drive so probably couldn't find it on my own. |
Originally Posted by HashtagBrownies (Post 2190709)
I found a very accessible link to it, I'll send it to you.
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So it turns out that I had actually seen Snake in the Eagle's Shadow before!
The first couple scenes didn't seem familiar, but by the time the training montage started, I knew I had seen it before, and could even remember how to rest of the film played out. There were often Jackie Chan marathons on one of the channels we had when I was younger, so I must've caught it on tv at some point. |
Chocolate (Prachya Pinkaew, 2008)
https://images.mubicdn.net/images/fi...mage-w1280.jpg So I don't really want to hold this against the film because it was clearly made on the cheap but this was shot on a potato and its hard to look past sometimes. It's a shame too because the choreography is certainly there but its done such a disservice by the filmmaking. I mean, they definitely tried to give it some visual flair but it backfired more often than actually improve the film, most notably in the fight at the butcher shop where I couldn't read a single thing that happened. In the other fights I at least can tell what's going on but the camera and edit still manage to suck most of the life out of them. Honestly the film just feels extremely slow and dull overall and its most memorable moments are indebted to the soundtrack which has these surprisingly great bargain-bin dream pop bangers sprinkled throughout. Now, as a neurotypical it wouldn't be my place to make a judgment on whether this character portrayal is ableist or anything but it was certainly pretty cringe to watch. Yeah, didn't really like this much. |
Originally Posted by HashtagBrownies (Post 2190709)
I found a very accessible link to it, I'll send it to you.
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Hanagatami Speaking on an Obayashi film is not an easy thing to do, because he didn't make films that fit within convention. I could describe to you the things that he did that others didn't, but it would fail to really show why those things worked so well. I would love to spend a day travelling around his mind and seeing it at work, because he was totally unique. I've only seen three of his films, but two of them from 40 years apart both being legitimate five-star classics tells me what I need to know about him. He made gorgeous films that stunned me and grabbed me with their playfulness, inventiveness, and audacity. Hausu was a crazy ride, Hanagatami was maybe the best coming-of-age film I've ever seen. With Obayashi, a simple descriptor such as that fails to do it justice, but I don't think I could do this film justice anyway. easy |
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Drunken Angel (1948, Akira Kurosawa)
This is a fascinating, if minor film in the Kurosawa oevre. As many note, it is primarily worth mention for the first casting of Toshiro Mifune as Matsunaga, a vicious gangster with TB that forms an unlikely friendship with alcoholic slum Doctor Sanada (Takashi Shimura). The film tricks you into thinking Mifune is the protagonist - a nice idea unfortunately undercut by Mifune's amazing screen presence and energy. Indeed, from the second Mifune appears, his intense physicality overpowers virtually everything else in the film. Kurosawa eventually focuses more heavily on Matsunaga, implicitly acknowledging the issue. The film also features what would become some trademark Kurosawa visual flourishes - including framing multiple speakers in different parts of the screen looking in different directions, a stunning technique that looks like fine art - and one used to perfection in the far better Yojimbo. There is also a breathtaking three mirror shot in the final fight and several other hints of the genius work to come from Kurosawa. The film is strong thematically - it reflects the sorrow and disarray of post-war Japan and slips in several negative references to Americans, averting censorship. Notably, the Yakuza dress and act American. It is a nice touch too that Doctor Sanada is far from a perfect messenger to help save Matsunaga. It's difficult for him to persuasively insist Matsunaga quit drinking to avoid more damage from his TB when the Doctor himself is drinking. Similarly, the Doctor's fits of anger and arrogance mirror the very qualities he hates in the Yakuza, a sign of the moral rot that had infested Japan (along with the less subtle toxic waste river in the middle of town.) The biggest drawback is Shimura's performance, which is over-the-top even for Kurosawa, though undoubtedly a lot of that is in the writing. There is also a thread with a woman he is harboring from the Yakuza that only sort-of gets paid off. The film is a bit wobbly all in all, but interesting historically, if nothing else. On a personal note, it's a funny coincidence that I was strongly considering nominating the movie that this film directly led to - Red Beard, in which Mifune plays the doctor that confronts the Yakuza. It's a far stronger film, but I'm glad I got to see this one anyway, as I would have watched it eventually and there are some great moments. If nothing else, it's worth a watch to see the incredible Mifune performance and the beginning of one the most fruitful and visionary pairings between actor and director in cinema history. 3/5 stars. |
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Is the best copy of Daimajin (Kimiyoshi Yasuda, 1966) only on YouTube? If someone has a better link could you PM me?
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https://www.movieforums.com/communit...chmentid=75539 Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow / 蛇形刁手 (1978) Directed By: Woo-Ping Yuen Starring: Jackie Chan, Yuen Siu Tien, Hwang Jang Lee It's been many years since I've watched a film with this style of martial arts comedy, so it felt a little nostalgic to sit back, relax, and laugh at the absurd antics on screen. The use of ridiculous action sound effects, and slapstick facial expressions felt like a novel concept once again, rather than the tired trope it became over the last few decades. Since Snake in the Eagle's Shadow was one of the films to start that trend, it's quite appropriate that it's the one which has reconnected me to the joy I used to feel watching the genre as a kid. Despite its light-heartedness, the film's pace is almost exhausting, with very little pause in between its elaborately choreographed action sequences. The story becomes almost irrelevant, as nearly any excuse is used to showcase the work of its talented stunt team. That's not exactly a complaint, because those martial arts performances are a key component to these types of films, and they are certainly a major draw for its target audience. Jackie Chan does a particularly great job here, making it easy to see why directors typecast him in similar roles for most of his career afterward. While I'm sure I had previously seen an edited version of the film, this viewing did contain very uncomfortable footage of real animals fighting that went on for far too long. Watching the fight serves as inspiration for the protagonist, but just one clip of the cat swatting at the snake would've sufficed, so I do recommend going with an altered cut if it's available. I'm not going to hold it against the film, but I certainly don't condone animal cruelty, and I'm glad film makers across the globe have been moving past this. |
Originally Posted by HashtagBrownies (Post 2190501)
Also a note to animal lovers: One of the key scenes in the film involves a cat fighting a snake. In some cuts of the film, real footage of a cat fighting a snake is shown. From what I've seen though, most of the versions of the film on YouTube have heavily edited the scene so that no contact between the snake or cat is seen, so you should be fine.
Even though I ignored the advice and did not watch the copy on Youtube (and even worse, watched the original version) I just wanted to say that I appreciated the warning. |
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I'm glad Cosmic just posted about that, cause I didn't see the bolded part in Hastag's review. Think I'll watch the YouTube version so my wife stays happy:D I'll be happier too.
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