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Mr Minio 02-17-16 11:21 AM

Is porn art?
 
Can porn be art?

Discuss!

The Rodent 02-17-16 11:28 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
No.


Next question.

The Rodent 02-17-16 11:29 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
Sorry bud. I've just woken up and I'm in a funny mood.


I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.


Unless it's Gonzo. Gonzo is all about camera angles.

Swan 02-17-16 11:30 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
I'm curious what Sean and Daniel have to say about this. :p

foster 02-17-16 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1460730)

I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.
After I started making movies of my own something really strange happened. I started to notice how bad the lighting is in porn. :eek:

MovieMeditation 02-17-16 11:39 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
It is if I'm starring in it.

earlsmoviepicks 02-17-16 11:40 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
I don't think any prurient medium can be honestly called art, unless Christina Hendricks is in it

Mr Minio 02-17-16 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1460730)
I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.
When you rate the cinematography in porn, you know something's wrong. :P I'm interested if porn can be art, but also if porn elements in art make it any less artful.

seanc 02-17-16 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 1460731)
I'm curious what Sean and Daniel have to say about this. :p
First thing I thought of when I saw the thread. I'm speechless. Minio won the argument for you I think.

The Rodent 02-17-16 11:43 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
Porn in art? Depends what you define as porn though.


Is Michelangelo's David porn? He's naked after all.


I think nudity in art is ok... but the definitely of porn can be a blurred line if you're comparing nudity with pornography.

foster 02-17-16 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by earlsmoviepicks (Post 1460736)
I don't think any prurient medium can be honestly called art, unless Christina Hendricks is in it
fellucia blow begs to differ

Mr Minio 02-17-16 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by foster (Post 1460734)
After I started making movies of my own something really strange happened. I started to notice how bad the lighting is in porn. :eek:
Do you adjust the brightness on your screen so you can have your mind at ease, then?
Originally Posted by earlsmoviepicks (Post 1460736)
I don't think any prurient medium can be honestly called art, unless Christina Hendricks is in it
What if it's two Christinas having a hot lesbian action? I guess that would be art of the highest order for you.
Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1460735)
It is if I'm starring in it.
If you're starring in it, it's more like horror.
Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1460741)
Is Michelangelo's David porn? He's naked after all.
It's not. It's not even erotica. Both porn and erotica have a certain goal, whereas David is to present the beauty of human's body. You're not supposed to drool over it, or mastrubate to it. You're supposed to be in awe with the transcendental beauty of it.

The Rodent 02-17-16 11:49 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
Here's how I'd see the difference between nudity in art and porn.


Art: The "study" of the beauty of the human body. Tastefully, (sometimes not tastefully), presented for all to see, in all its glory.


Porn: A series of images, pictures, photos or a movie... made solely for the sexual gratification of the audience. Designed specifically for erotic satisfaction.

neiba 02-17-16 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 1460731)
I'm curious what Sean and Daniel have to say about this. :p
Came here for this!

honeykid 02-17-16 11:51 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
Yes. This argument is kind of tired.

False Writer 02-17-16 11:56 AM

Re: Is porn art?
 
To me, no. In the end porn is all about pointing a camera at 2 people (or more) having sex. I do agree that the line can be blurred a bit with an art film having graphic sex scenes in it, but as far as straight-up porn goes no I don't think it is art.

Captain Steel 02-17-16 12:03 PM

Re: Is porn art?
 
The music certainly is. ;)

foster 02-17-16 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 1460744)
Do you adjust the brightness on your screen so you can have your mind at ease, then?
I... don't even know how to respond to how clueless this comment is.

foster 02-17-16 12:14 PM

Re: Is porn art?
 
Here this will get your beak wet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmmZECtP3oM

TONGO 02-17-16 12:38 PM

Art. People take garbage, and can make it into art. If a renowned painter put to canvass people having sex, would we call it porn? If a renowned photographer took pictures of people having sex, would we call it porn? Chloe Sevigny gave James Gallo a blowjob in The Brown Bunny, and she still says it was art. Really?

Thing is, "Art" has no form, no definition that encompasses what it truly is. Never will be because there are people that would look at Art made from garbage and think "Thats garbage", and theyre right. Is it because they dont "see" the art in it, or was there really anything to see once you got past that the artwork was made from garbage?

Plain truth is you can paint, photograph, film, etc.... people having sex and it be considered art. Yes sex in itself has volumes of more depth of thought or feelings put towards it than most things in life, so dont try and convince me theres no potential for Art there if sex is involved.

The other plain truth is, and I dont exaggerate this in any way, but youd have an easier time finding a needle in a haystack than finding a porno considered by most as Art. Rightfully so as the porn industry makes shallow two dimensional crap. Not even that stupid Brown Bunny was art. Maybe one day things will evolve, but whats available today is not art.


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