Hollywood is just afraid of being even more exposed for being the evil it's always been. It's a simple answer. Cater to the feminists to avoid picket lines on opening weekend.
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Originally Posted by Joel (Post 2029069)
Hollywood is just afraid of being even more exposed for being the evil it's always been. It's a simple answer. Cater to the feminists to avoid picket lines on opening weekend.
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Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2029053)
Yeah I agree on the Transformer movies that the female form is shown in too much close up and too exploitative there maybe.
It's hard to explain what I mean maybe, but it just seems that way for me that Hollywood is afraid of the female form now. What about the new Terminator movie as an example? The female Terminator in T3, they weren't afraid to make look feminine and more voluptuous, but the new female Terminator is completely flat chested, and looks boyish compared to the T3 one. Is that a better example? The Terminator sequel I spose you might have a point there, hard to know exactly but without having seen it(not sure I will at the cinema given how bad it looks) yeah I do get the impression they may have made Mackenzie Davis character look as masculine as possible to try and score clumsy political points. The whole film just screams low effort/talent cash in to me just as the last couple have(which ironically it seems to steal a lot from despite disregarding them) so I can well believe they'd do that. As far as Terminator 3 goes I actually think the female Terminator was a bit of a missed opportunity. We get a couple of pretty inconsequential scenes playing up Loken being attractive for some titillation but it doesn't really focus on the idea of her being sexually manipulative very much that I think that could have been more interesting/scary. Johansson in my avi for example plays up a similar kind of character very effectively IMHO. |
Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
Oh okay, I didn't think she needed to be very sexually manipulative though, since she probably gets the answers she wants out of torturing or killing people with her powers, but the fact that she looks feminine and voluptuous is good I thought.
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Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
I just watched The Outlaw (1943), and read about how when making the movie, they invented special bras, to emphasize Jane Russell's breasts. Is this one of the reasons you don't see more voluptuous depictions of women in movies nowadays, is a lot of filmmakers don't want to ask women to do that maybe?
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Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 2023051)
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Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
Another example I noticed is the new Batwoman TV series. If you look at photos of it, the new Batwoman actress, looks as boy-ish as possible.
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Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2039647)
Another example I noticed is the new Batwoman TV series. If you look at photos of it, the new Batwoman actress, looks as boy-ish as possible.
Also, you seem to have a pretty messed up notion of what the "female form" actually is and seem to think it must be the shape that appeals the most to cis-het men. Or, at least, the one that appeals most to you. Women come in all sorts of forms. That said, having just watched the trailers, I think the show looks like crap. :shrug: |
Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
That's true they come in all sorts of forms, but its seems like it's becoming more masculine in action thriller entertainment as the years go on, for some reason. So it's still driving towards a certain form.
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Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2039671)
...its seems like it's becoming more masculine in action thriller entertainment as the years go on, for some reason...
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Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
Well it just seems kind of contradictory, cause they want more female action roles, but they make the characters look as manly as they can with Batwoman and the new Terminator it seems. But why?
I mean people say they want more people who are non-white in movie roles too, but if you watch a movie like Black Panther, they don't make the black actors as white looking as possible. If they can embrace non white actors, non-whiteness, then why can't they embrace female actors, feminine form, so to speak? |
Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2039712)
Well it just seems kind of contradictory, cause they want more female action roles, but they make the characters look as manly as they can with Batwoman and the new Terminator it seems. But why?
I mean people say they want more people who are non-white in movie roles too, but if you watch a movie like Black Panther, they don't make the black actors as white looking as possible. If they can embrace non white actors, non-whiteness, then why can't they embrace female actors, feminine form, so to speak? |
Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
You’re still stuck on the ridiculous notion that a woman looks one particular way. And diversity and representation aren’t just about skin color or how many X chromosomes a person’s cells have. Go back and read my previous post. Also try watching the trailers.
Also, I strongly disagree that Ruby Rose looks “manly.” Androgynous, sure. Not manly. |
Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
But it seems to be more common now then before, like it's becoming a trend. When I say manly, I don't mean successfully manly, but like they are still trying, if that make sense.
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Re: Is Hollywood afraid of the female form nowadays?
It doesn't.
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Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2039671)
That's true they come in all sorts of forms, but its seems like it's becoming more masculine in action thriller entertainment as the years go on, for some reason. So it's still driving towards a certain form.
Also, action flicks need a certain physicality, no? |
Originally Posted by mark f (Post 2039717)
It doesn't.
https://youtu.be/tD2W4B5o8sg Expect a similar post from me yearly as that's around the time I forget that I probably already said this before. |
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