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mojofilter 05-14-16 08:57 PM

Martin Scorsese's The Irishman
 
Not sure if anybody has posted anything about this classic-in-the-making yet...

There's serious talk that Martin Scorsese and Robert Deniro are finally making a movie together, their first in 21 years since 1995's Casino. Joe Pesci is also re-joining the team. And this time, Al Pacino is also participating, surprisingly his first potential collaboration with Scorsese.

Screw all those big budget superhero films! This is going to be THE movie event of this century.

Here's a the full article:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/martin-...tml#mycomments


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If a deal can be struck, Martin Scorsese would direct Robert De Niro for the first time in more than 20 years and Al Pacino for the first time ever in The Irishman.

If there were monuments to director-actor teams, Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro would definitely have a spot on Mount Rushmore. Their two-decade collaboration, from 1973’s Mean Streets to 1995’s Casino, gave us three undisputed contemporary classics in Taxi Driver, Raging Bull,and Goodfellas.
Even with a 21-year break in their professional relationship since Casino (excepting their lighthearted participation in the DreamWorks cartoon Shark Tale), their rapport clearly endures. Appearing alongside each other at a 40th anniversary Tribeca Film Festival screening of Taxi Driver in April, Scorsese and De Niro easily traded stories about how they brought mentally unstable cabbie Travis Bickle to life.

Cut to a month later, and that Taxi Driver event may just have been a prelude to something bigger. Variety is reporting from the Cannes Film Festival that not only could a deal for the long-planned Scorsese/De Niro reunion project, The Irishman, finally be made available to international financiers, but that the project would also include De Niro’s Heat co-star and fellow acting icon, Al Pacino (believe it or not, this would be the first time for Pacino in a Scorsese film), and Oscar-winning Goodfellas co-star Joe Pesci.

According to the Variety story, The Irishman, a ’70s-era gangster film, has been languishing at Paramount, the studio that released Scorsese’s 2013 hit, The Wolf of Wall Street. Now, Variety reports, the studio may allow it to find new backers for the right price. (No matter who ends up financing it, Paramount would be the movie’s U.S. distributor.)

Based on Charles Brandt’s 2003 book, I Heard You Paint Houses, The Irishman would focus on the bloody career of hit man Frank Sheeran, famed for being Jimmy Hoffa’s best friend — and possible killer. De Niro would play Sheeran. The Variety piece also reports that the actors would play younger versions of their characters in flashbacks, using the same digital trickery that de-aged Robert Downey Jr. to his Less Than Zero self in Captain America: Civil War and restored Michael Douglas to his Wall Street prime in Ant-Man.

No matter how many years he gets shaved off onscreen, the prospect of De Niro teaming up with Scorsese one more time should make any film lover feel young at heart. In the years since Casino, the director — whose next film, Silence, is expected to arrive later this year — has pursued an artistically rewarding (and financially lucrative) collaboration with Leonardo DiCaprio, while De Niro’s recent track record has been a bit … well, spottier. (Scorsese’s past and present muses both appeared in his 2015 short film, The Audition, which has only screened at a Macau casino.)

What’s so exciting about The Irishman is the hope there’s one more career-defining De Niro role in a Scorsese film yet to add to Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, Rupert Pupkin, and Max Cady. The two men have rarely spoken about what the exact nature of their dynamic is, which makes it feel that much more rare and special. “I’d like to think we melted into each other kind of in a way,” Scorsese told Jimmy Fallon during an appearance on The Tonight Show in February. And keeping it vague is probably for the best. After all, it’s the end result of their process that most concerns — and benefits — us. With 2016 already providing us with plenty of evidence that we shouldn’t take any of our beloved artists for granted, clearing the way for Scorsese and De Niro to put a capstone on their career-long collaboration with The Irishman seems like a global cinematic imperative.

cricket 05-14-16 09:24 PM

DO IT!!!

mojofilter 05-14-16 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 1514082)
DO IT!!!
Right on! I already can't f**king wait to see this movie!

cricket 05-14-16 09:28 PM

And Harvey Keitel!

mojofilter 05-14-16 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 1514086)
And Harvey Keitel!
Oh yeah, would be very cool if he's in it, too. Even if it's a cameo.

cricket 05-14-16 09:31 PM

IMDb has his name in the cast

TONGO 05-14-16 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by mojofilter (Post 1514083)
Right on! I already can't f**king wait to see this movie!
I concur :)

So I take Harvey Keitels is the Irishman, since Deniro and Pacino are italian?

cricket 05-14-16 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 1514089)
I concur :)

So I take Harvey Keitels is the Irishman, since Deniro and Pacino are italian?
Bobby D is more Irish than Italian. Remember, he couldn't even be a made man in Goodfellas!

TONGO 05-14-16 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 1514092)
Bobby D is more Irish than Italian. Remember, he couldn't even be a made man in Goodfellas!
I just looked it up, De Niros half italian, and some Irish with a bunch of other stuff :shrug:

cricket 05-14-16 11:47 PM

Supposedly his father is Italian and Irish, while his mother a broad mix including Irish.

Camo 05-15-16 04:14 AM

I am looking forward to this but i must admit i was hoping Scorsese was done with mafia films. I've read I Heard You Paint Houses, enjoyable book but i really don't believe he had anything to do with Hoffa's disappearance and he definitely didn't kill Joey Gallo like he claimed. Still i would believe he assassinated Gandhi before i believed anything from Richard Kuklinski so there's that.

Iroquois 05-15-16 07:10 AM

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Yeah, I'm admittedly a little skeptical about it (especially if The Departed is anything to go by regarding Scorsese's current attitude towards mob movies) but seeing him unite/re-unite with these particular performers does make me a little hopeful, like this could be his Unforgiven in how it might just function as a conclusion of sorts.

Marlon Brando 05-15-16 12:12 PM

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Pretty excited about this. The last DeNiro/Pacino one sucked but with Marty at the helm, it should be great.

mojofilter 05-15-16 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1514257)
I am looking forward to this but i must admit i was hoping Scorsese was done with mafia films.
I think otherwise. Martin's best films were his mafia movies, particularly Goodfellas.
The gangster movie genre has not been popular lately, so it's great that Marty, along with his "gangster" crew, in addition to Pacino, can breathe new life into it once again.


Since we're talking about gangster movies, I'm also hoping Tarantino can return to form and make another "men in cheap suits" gangster film, following Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. It's about time the genre makes a huge comeback!

Camo 05-15-16 04:11 PM

Martin's best films were his mafia movies,
Well my two favourite Scorcese movies Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy are not mafia movies so i disagree, but i'm fine with others believing that. Still i think most would agree that his only completely successful well rounded mafia movie is Goodfellas, as much as i love Casino and i also quite like The Departed i personally don't think they are on the same level. I think Scorsese has spent too much time in the genre and i have a feeling this will feel a bit samey, obviously i hope i am wrong though.

Cobpyth 05-15-16 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1514461)
Still i think most would agree that his only completely successful well rounded mafia movie is Goodfellas, as much as i love Casino and i also quite like The Departed i personally don't think they are on the same level.
Agreed. Goodfellas actually happens to be my favorite Scorsese picture, by the way, but Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are a close second and third for me.

I'm not really skeptical about The Irishman becoming a good movie. A Scorsese film always has lots of good stuff to offer. Even his weakest films are high quality for me, so I'm not worried about that.
The only thing I'm skeptical about is if it's actually going to be made. I personally don't believe so, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

NextScorsese 05-16-16 11:46 AM

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I'M READY, READY FOR THE BIG RIDE THAT IS SILENCE BABY!

(In case you couldn't guess, I'm a big Scorsese fan.)

Henchman 12-23-16 07:46 AM

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Starts shooting next year

Cobpyth 12-23-16 08:37 AM

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So it seems like this is going to be made...

Despite this warranted pessimism, thankfully Scorsese is not hanging up his hat. Courtesy of his press tour, we have have a pair of updates on what is expected to be his next two films. Firstly, he plans to begin production next year for the crime drama The Irishman, starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and hopefully Joe Pesci. While it was previously known he’d be using de-aging technology for the film about Frank “The Irishman” Sheeran, a mob hitman whose illustrious career is today best-known for a supposed involvement in the death of Jimmy Hoffa, Scorsese expanded on his approach further to Cinema Blend:

"You don’t use prosthetics, make-up; they have acting and the technology is able to have them go through different time ages without the prosthetics. So we’ve seen some tests and it looks extraordinary. We were able to film Bob and just do a scene. We saw it come down to when he was like 20, 40, 60, so we’re looking forward to that, from that point of view, for The Irishman … Imagine seeing what De Niro looked like in The Godfather: Part II days, that’s pretty much how you’re going to see him again."

As for what hopefully follows that: it’s been well over a year since his next Leonardo DiCaprio collaboration was revealed and now we finally have an update. Based on Erik Larson‘s book, The Devil in the White City is being adapted by Billy Ray, and follows the dark and twisted events of Dr. HH Holmes, a man who may have killed upwards of 200 people during Chicago’s World’s Fair of 1893. “Right now, there is a script being worked on,” he tells Toronto Sun. “One of the things that I had to stop for the past six months was my meetings on that script. They want me to start again in January and see if we can find a way because it’s an extraordinary story.” So, with The Irishman aiming to arrive in late 2018, I’d doubt we’d see The Devil before 2020, but let’s cross our fingers that Scorsese and Ray crack the script.


https://thefilmstage.com/trailer/epi...is-next-films/

I'm not really sure about the de-aging technique thing and admittedly, I'm a little more excited about the The Devil in the White City project compared to the The Irishman project, but whatever Scorsese does is mostly phenomenal, so I won't criticize any of his choices until he's actually made a bad film (for the first time in his "mainstream" career).

mojofilter 12-23-16 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cobpyth (Post 1619198)
So it seems like this is going to be made...

Despite this warranted pessimism, thankfully Scorsese is not hanging up his hat. Courtesy of his press tour, we have have a pair of updates on what is expected to be his next two films. Firstly, he plans to begin production next year for the crime drama The Irishman, starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and hopefully Joe Pesci. While it was previously known he’d be using de-aging technology for the film about Frank “The Irishman” Sheeran, a mob hitman whose illustrious career is today best-known for a supposed involvement in the death of Jimmy Hoffa, Scorsese expanded on his approach further to Cinema Blend:

"You don’t use prosthetics, make-up; they have acting and the technology is able to have them go through different time ages without the prosthetics. So we’ve seen some tests and it looks extraordinary. We were able to film Bob and just do a scene. We saw it come down to when he was like 20, 40, 60, so we’re looking forward to that, from that point of view, for The Irishman … Imagine seeing what De Niro looked like in The Godfather: Part II days, that’s pretty much how you’re going to see him again."

As for what hopefully follows that: it’s been well over a year since his next Leonardo DiCaprio collaboration was revealed and now we finally have an update. Based on Erik Larson‘s book, The Devil in the White City is being adapted by Billy Ray, and follows the dark and twisted events of Dr. HH Holmes, a man who may have killed upwards of 200 people during Chicago’s World’s Fair of 1893. “Right now, there is a script being worked on,” he tells Toronto Sun. “One of the things that I had to stop for the past six months was my meetings on that script. They want me to start again in January and see if we can find a way because it’s an extraordinary story.” So, with The Irishman aiming to arrive in late 2018, I’d doubt we’d see The Devil before 2020, but let’s cross our fingers that Scorsese and Ray crack the script.


https://thefilmstage.com/trailer/epi...is-next-films/

I'm not really sure about the de-aging technique thing and admittedly, I'm a little more excited about the The Devil in the White City project compared to the The Irishman project, but whatever Scorsese does is mostly phenomenal, so I won't criticize any of his choices until he's actually made a bad film (for the first time in his "mainstream" career).
Awesome news! I was wondering whatever happened with this movie! It's going to be an instant classic. A gigantic movie.

Camo 12-23-16 08:47 AM

Gotta say meh to this news. I'm sure it will be a good movie and i'll watch anything he makes but as i said earlier in this thread i'm not crazy about him continuing to do mob movies. Would've much preferred Devil In The White City like Cob mentioned.

Can't see it being a bad film at least, i've read the book and it's definitely an interesting story and it's Scorsese obviously. Seriously doubt it will be "an instant classic" though. Not equal to Goodfellas, Taxi Driver or Raging Bull, i'm not talking about quality but just how those fims are perceived as classics.

Iroquois 02-22-17 08:34 AM

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Apparently it's going to be on Netflix. Not sure how to feel about that.

The Gunslinger45 02-24-17 09:01 PM

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In all honesty I would prefer to see The Irishman in the theater.

Also it seems that STX who was going to distribute the film overseas is kinda pissed at the new Netflix deal. So pissed they are considering legal action.

Link

mattiasflgrtll6 02-24-17 09:06 PM

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Showing it on Netflix is a very disappointing decision. Tragically so, I would even argue.

I mean, LOOK.

It's a Martin Scorcese movie.
The first one with Robert De Niro in it since Casino.
It pulled Joe Pesci out of retirement again.
His first movie ever starring Al Pacino.

WHAT? WHAT? Where's the logic???

seanc 02-24-17 09:08 PM

Re: Martin Scorsese's The Irishman
 
This is a bit of a bummer but considering I still haven't seen Silence because it didn't come within 50 miles of me, guess I will be glad at least I will see it as soon as it's released.

Saunch 02-24-17 09:12 PM

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I bet they release this in theaters as well.

I don't really mind the presentation. I think this is Marty's send off (hopefully not, but...) so one could see it as him simultaneously nodding to the past (gritty, 70s style crime thriller starring his most famous collaborator) and giving the future his blessing, of sorts.

The Gunslinger45 02-24-17 09:13 PM

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Apparently this has to do with the producer trying to offset the losses from Silence.

seanc 02-24-17 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Gunslinger45 (Post 1655911)
Apparently this has to do with the producer trying to offset the losses from Silence.
I can't believe the film didn't go wide. I have never bern unable to go see a Scorsese flick.

The Gunslinger45 02-24-17 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1655910)
I bet they release this in theaters as well.

I don't really mind the presentation. I think this is Marty's send off (hopefully not, but...) so one could see it as him simultaneously nodding to the past (gritty, 70s style crime thriller starring his most famous collaborator) and giving the future his blessing, of sorts.
I doubt it. Theaters won't carry movies released that will also be released through direct means at the same time. They would loose a ton of money of ticket sales and concessions.

The Gunslinger45 02-24-17 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1655915)
I can't believe the film didn't go wide. I have never bern unable to go see a Scorsese flick.
I KNOW! But apparently this flick was hard to sell. 3 hour religious movies even made by Scorsese apparently can't hold up against Star Wars and other carry overs from December.

Cobpyth 02-24-17 09:34 PM

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As long as his films get made according to his vision, it's alright with me. I just want him to make as many films as he still can, because I'm pretty sure some of us will be missing his work immensely once he retires. I don't care in what way they're distributed.

I can watch these films in my own private theater in the future anyway. :cool:

Dexter007 02-28-17 12:15 AM

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Please tell me this will exist.

NextScorsese 02-28-17 08:48 AM

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

WorldFilmGeek 05-23-17 07:55 PM

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Martin Scorsese has told fans who are stoked about The Irishman not to expect a Goodfellas/Casino-tone to the film. Shooting will begin this summer.

http://www.slashfilm.com/martin-scor...n-this-summer/
http://www.slashfilm.com/the-irishma...rtin-scorsese/

Saunch 05-23-17 09:00 PM

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He's talked about making it in the style of a Fellini movie.

The 8 1/2 or Amacord of mafia movies. Maybe even closer to Fellini's Roma.

Camo 05-23-17 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by WorldFilmGeek (Post 1706973)
Martin Scorsese has told fans who are stoked about The Irishman not to expect a Goodfellas/Casino-tone to the film. Shooting will begin this summer.

http://www.slashfilm.com/martin-scor...n-this-summer/
http://www.slashfilm.com/the-irishma...rtin-scorsese/
That's awesome news. Really wasn't looking forward to another straight mob movie from Scorsese, he's done enough.

Cobpyth 05-23-17 10:21 PM

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When asked how that film is different from Goodfellas, which explores similar themes and sees Ray Liotta’s Henry Hill go through a similar journey, Scorsese insisted that the two films are very diffrent.

“I think this is different, I think it is. I admit that there are – you know, Goodfellas and Casino have a certain style that I created for them – it’s on the page in the script actually. Putting Goodfellas together was almost like an afterthought, at times I was kind of rushing, I felt I’d already done it because I’d played it all out in terms of the camera moves and the editing and that sort of thing. The style of the picture, the cuts, the freeze-frames, all of this was planned way in advance, but here it’s a little different.

“The people are also older in The Irishman, it’s certainly more about looking back, a retrospective so to speak of a man’s life and the choices that he’s had to make.”

That last part makes it sound like Scorsese's version of Once Upon a Time in America. Anyway, it got me very excited for this film!

Saunch 07-12-17 03:18 PM

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Pesci's come to his senses.

mojofilter 07-12-17 04:48 PM

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That last link says the film will be getting a short theatrical run before it hits Netflix to qualify it for the Oscars. Hopefully, the theatrical run will reach a theatre near me.

Ultraviolence 07-12-17 05:06 PM

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Oh my God!!
I really want Harvey Keitel in this film!
Hope he is the next to be confirmed!
:yup:

Saunch 07-12-17 05:16 PM

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He's in it.

Cynema De Bergerac 07-12-17 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1653629)
Apparently it's going to be on Netflix. Not sure how to feel about that.
Also, Martin Scorsese is apparently wanting to CGI De Niro.

Greeeaaat.

Saunch 09-22-17 08:42 PM

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Joel 09-22-17 08:54 PM

I'm hopeful this will be good. I really enjoyed Goodfellas and Casino..just about every Scorsese picture is a winner so I'm not worried this will be awful. The CGI think I'm not thrilled about but we'll see. I'm sure whther or not the movie is good it'll get the usual pouncing

Saunch 10-13-17 11:10 AM

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HollywoodnewsVHN 10-14-17 01:44 PM

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Al Pacino looks nice as Jimmy Hoffa. Can't wait to see these legends in action once again, especially when some of them are going to be De-aged by the same technology they used on Brad Pitt in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

trollhistoryfilms 01-01-18 10:24 PM

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Hopefully he can channel pre-Aviator Scorsese in making this.

Saunch 01-01-18 10:35 PM

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Shutter Island and forward Marty is great!

trollhistoryfilms 01-02-18 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1847012)
Shutter Island and forward Marty is great!
To each his own I guess...

Looking at the pictures I really hope DeNiro doesn't ruin this. Pacino is kosher though.

JoaoRodrigues 01-02-18 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Gunslinger45 (Post 1655911)
Apparently this has to do with the producer trying to offset the losses from Silence.
There are movies that are very frustrating for filmmakers. They are the ones made with a personal note, which I think has been the case of Silence. Some filmmakers make movies where they have none personal affliction with either the story or the characters and they have a huge success, and others where they put all there sweat and blood on what they think is the meaning of their existence in a two/three hours movie and has no success among the audience.

I personally enjoyed Silence, I think the audience, and whoever follows his work escalated the bar to a new height, because they know that Scorcese is the best on the business. I'm Portuguese, so this movie should have some meaning for me, the two characters have my name: "Ferreira and Rodrigues", but it only gave me the feeling that my ancestors did not have the right to go and impute Christianity as the universal truth to any country they went. Somehow reminds me in part of what has been seen in the Middle East, with other contours obviously.

The Gunslinger45 01-03-18 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by JoaoRodrigues (Post 1847225)
There are movies that are very frustrating for filmmakers. They are the ones made with a personal note, which I think has been the case of Silence. Some filmmakers make movies where they have none personal affliction with either the story or the characters and they have a huge success, and others where they put all there sweat and blood on what they think is the meaning of their existence in a two/three hours movie and has no success among the audience.

I personally enjoyed Silence, I think the audience, and whoever follows his work escalated the bar to a new height, because they know that Scorcese is the best on the business. I'm Portuguese, so this movie should have some meaning for me, the two characters have my name: "Ferreira and Rodrigues", but it only gave me the feeling that my ancestors did not have the right to go and impute Christianity as the universal truth to any country they went. Somehow reminds me in part of what has been seen in the Middle East, with other contours obviously.
I loved Silence. When Scorsese bombs at the box office, it generally is still a fantastic flick.

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Word around twitter is that this may be the first official poster for The Irishman.


https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=5BEE0D4C


If it is in fact a real poster and just not a fan mock up - it's sort of weak, but I remember the first image we got of The Departed in 07' being sort of weak as well.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...17&oe=5C30643A

mojofilter 02-25-19 03:35 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr44G1KJmc

Yoda 02-25-19 03:43 PM

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That's the cool concept teaser we were talking about in chat last night, yeah. Good stuff.

Swan 02-25-19 04:08 PM

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Yeah, it's a rad teaser, but I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!

Larry 02-26-19 12:33 AM

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Looking forward to seeing the return of an evil joe Pesci.

ironpony 02-26-19 11:09 AM

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Is anyone else really surprised that Scorsese directed a Netflix film? He always does theatrical release movies, since he's one of the top directors in Hollywood, so why did he choose to do a straight to Netflix movie? Is his career now in the slump more, or something?

Saunch 02-26-19 11:42 AM

Scorsese’s been developing this film for over a decade. Like with Silence, financing had been an issue and now that Netflix has grown as an entity, they were able and willing to pay for it, so Marty moved his project over from Paramount (who I think still have some stake on the film.)

Same thing happened with Alfonso Cuarón, The Coens and, soon, Damien Chazelle and Guillermo Del Toro (and, technically, Orson Welles too.)

ironpony 02-26-19 11:50 AM

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Oh okay, I just thought with a big name like Scorsese, and with a star like De Niro, he could have gotten some other bigger movie company, that was capable of theatrical releases, to finance it.

Iroquois 02-26-19 11:53 AM

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Didn't you ask that in the Scorsese thread?

mojofilter 02-26-19 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 1992535)
Oh okay, I just thought with a big name like Scorsese, and with a star like De Niro, he could have gotten someone other bigger movie company to finance it.
Netflix is huge now. Their movies are no joke. At least not anymore. I consider 2018 to be the year Netflix has entered a whole new era and climbed onto the bigger stage. Bird Box was a huge hit worldwide. Even though I personally did not enjoy the movie, but Roma has just won Academy Awards and was up for Best Picture. Both films were produced, released, and streamed by Netflix. Soon, every major film maker will be making a movie with Netflix. Scorsese is the first of these major film makers to do it. Others will follow.

Saunch 02-26-19 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 1992535)
Oh okay, I just thought with a big name like Scorsese, and with a star like De Niro, he could have gotten some other bigger movie company, that was capable of theatrical releases, to finance it.
Well, he can and is for his next movie...

aronisred 02-26-19 12:11 PM

The teaser BLOWS...it looks very netflixy.....their marketing team is all shock value.
"Irishman is a gangster movie...whats the first thing that comes into mind about gangsters ? guns and bullets...so lets use bullets to highlight the whole cast of the movie"...it felt so cheap and gimmicky.

Upton 02-26-19 01:54 PM

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The teaser makes me think they're scared of showing what the results of the de-aging effects look like. Even Thelma Schoonmaker in a recent interview seemed skeptical that they'd pull it off

ironpony 02-26-19 09:29 PM

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Oh okay, I thought that Netflix has a hit movie once in a while but most of their original movies are ones that don't go on to win awards or anything it seems.

De-aging of who?

Iroquois 02-27-19 09:44 AM

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In fairness, most movies from other studios don't exactly go on to win awards either.

I would think it's to de-aging all the main actors (Pacino, De Niro, Pesci, Keitel), all of whom are at least in their 70s by now so it'll definitely be hard to pull it off convincingly. I remember when they did a Scarface videogame well over a decade ago where they had to get an impersonator to do Tony Montana's voice because Pacino himself sounded too old and hoarse, but then again this isn't exactly new (e.g. when Jimmy's introduced at the start of [i}Goodfellas[/i] he's supposed to be 28 but he's being played by a visibly 47-year-old De Niro).

ironpony 02-27-19 06:48 PM

Re: Martin Scorsese's The Irishman
 
Oh okay, I didn't think they were de-aged digitally, I thought it was going to just all make up and hair dye lol.

Why didn't Scorsese either get different, younger actors, or embrace the ages of the actors he wanted to work with?

Iroquois 02-28-19 02:04 AM

Re: Martin Scorsese's The Irishman
 
I assume it's because he considers any potentially uncanny de-aging an acceptable trade-off for getting to use these particular actors all the way through rather than settle for mere lookalikes. This makes more sense when considering that the age range in question doesn't sound too drastic (judging by the Wikipedia article they're going to be 70-somethings being de-aged "up to 30 years") but I guess we have to wait and see.

ironpony 02-28-19 02:23 AM

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30 years seems huge! I think that this de-aging thing might eventually get a negative light and people thinking of it as a gimmick, like 'blackface' or something like that.

Iroquois 02-28-19 02:45 AM

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I don't think it should be considered anywhere near as extreme as blackface (which isn't a gimmick anyway) - at worst it's a silly-looking special effect instead of a hate crime. In any case, I think it's been improving on a technical level over the years but it always has to clear the uncanny valley of making you accept that the character looks a vastly different age (which was already true of practical make-up that attempted to do the same thing anyway).

ironpony 02-28-19 03:02 AM

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Yeah that's true, perhaps blackface was too extreme of an example to compare it to. Actually a lot of people say that Daniel Craig is getting on the old side to play Bond now, so do you think they could keep him around longer if they digitally kept him the same age as he was in Casino Royale, say?

Iroquois 07-31-19 10:22 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Expe7hf6MU

Yoda 07-31-19 10:33 AM

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Good trailer. Fairly excited. And want it to succeed if only so we get more major releases on Netflix.

GulfportDoc 07-31-19 10:36 AM

What a cast! It's looking like a must-see picture. Hopefully it's not the gore fest that some of us thought that Tarantio's "Hollywood" film would be...;)

MovieBuffering 07-31-19 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 1992935)
30 years seems huge! I think that this de-aging thing might eventually get a negative light and people thinking of it as a gimmick, like 'blackface' or something like that.
Where is the outrage?! De-aging is taking away jobs from younger actors! By today's standards you can only play roles that fit your age, ableness, gender, race etc. De Niro should be a shamed with all his privilege. Tisk Tisk. I thought he cared for the little people!

mojofilter 07-31-19 01:32 PM

I'm super excited! The trailer looks amazing! It's been a long long time since Scorsese has worked with Deniro and Pesci. Add Pacino to the mix, and you have an instant classic!

I want Fall to be here now!

doubledenim 08-01-19 04:08 AM

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I'm sure it's gonna be great, but nothing special about that trailer. I guess it's nice to see Mrs. Stackhouse is still working.

John-Connor 08-28-19 05:45 AM

Run time: 3 hours 30 min
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....EL._SY355_.jpg

lenslady 08-28-19 11:10 AM

Heh heh @John-Connor very generous of you( as always).

Had been looking forward to this one but....well, I may be in the minority here, but from the trailer, this film looks like a disappointment to me. Sounded tantalizing-top notch director and actors - but looks like same old tired ground.

Well, you folks can have my share here; sorry, but there aren't enough skittles in the world ;)

John-Connor 08-28-19 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by lenslady (Post 2032503)
Heh heh @John-Connor very generous of you( as always).

Had been looking forward to this one but....well, I may be in the minority here, but from the trailer, this film looks like a disappointment to me. Sounded tantalizing-top notch director and actors - but looks like same old tired ground.

Well, you folks can have my share here; sorry, but there aren't enough skittles in the world ;)
My concern is still the graphics, but I'm holding on to my share of skittles, not writing off scorsese/pacino/pesci/deniro based on 100+ seconds of footage.:p

lenslady 09-03-19 11:36 PM

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You have a valid point to make - @John-Connor, and the reviewers are all saying lottsa good things about it.

I'm still not saying I would relent on my boycott, but if I did , I would need something more robust than skittles.

John-Connor 09-04-19 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by lenslady (Post 2033862)
You have a valid point to make - @John-Connor, and the reviewers are all saying lottsa good things about it.

I'm still not saying I would relent on my boycott, but if I did , I would need something more robust than skittles.
May I suggest som fa-va beans and a nice Chianti :D
https://i.imgur.com/vlb5IFi.jpg

And If it turns out to be a bad movie, you get to drop a big fat robust; "I told you so" in this thread.:cool:

mojofilter 09-16-19 09:38 PM

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The new poster attached

TheUsualSuspect 09-17-19 02:43 AM

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One of the worst posters I've ever seen. For such a high profile film from Netflix and all that damn money they're spending, you'd think they would make a decent poster.

Yoda 09-23-19 04:05 PM

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https://twitter.com/YrOnlyHope/statu...97560672903168

John-Connor 09-26-19 10:51 AM

New trailer 🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjrzu37-ljI

mojofilter 09-26-19 11:54 AM

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That trailer is hot! I think I just wet myself :)


Can't wait for THE MOVIE EVENT OF THE YEAR!

Siddon 09-26-19 12:20 PM

Worst case scenario that looks like it's as good as Casino in which case I am excited

Iroquois 09-26-19 12:44 PM

Re: Martin Scorsese's The Irishman
 
Three-and-a-half hours is a long time to spend in that uncanny valley, but I guess we'll see.

Yoda 10-07-19 02:04 PM

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Man, this has all my favorite actors. Robert the Niro, Al Totinos, Joe Pepsi.

rambond 10-07-19 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 2037989)
Three-and-a-half hours is a long time to spend in that uncanny valley, but I guess we'll see.
could be good, im gonna keep my hopes low, but if done right i ll be more than happy

ScarletLion 10-14-19 08:28 AM

I enjoyed Scorsese's comments about superhero movies not being real cinema. :D

However, his latest film has such a tiny theatrical run that it almost seems like he's taking the piss. I mean 'The Irishman' has just 1 showing in my entire country - and that was last night at 7pm in a tiny arthouse cinema miles from nowhere.

I get that it was either this or not have the film at all. But it seems an odd age we live in where one of the biggest films of the year is basically not in any of the cinemas. I'm glad I've got a nice TV.

JoaoRodrigues 10-14-19 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2041199)
I enjoyed Scorsese's comments about superhero movies not being real cinema. :D

However, his latest film has such a tiny theatrical run that it almost seems like he's taking the piss. I mean 'The Irishman' has just 1 showing in my entire country - and that was last night at 7pm in a tiny arthouse cinema miles from nowhere.

I get that it was either this or not have the film at all. But it seems an odd age we live in where one of the biggest films of the year is basically not in any of the cinemas. I'm glad I've got a nice TV.
I also enjoyed Scorsese comments on superhero movies, because I kinda agree with him, I just don't really enjoyed why I believe he said it.

It won't be shown in Portugal as well, not sure why. I'm sure it will probably appear in some crappy small cinema, but I won't search for it.

Yes, nice observation, and I think that pissed him a little bit, and might be one of the reasons he went all gypsy on superhero movies. After that affirmation, days later he said that he believes cinemas should have more narrative movies, movies where the audience shouldn't be focused on the plot, shouldn't be waiting for something at the end, in one word, more artistic films, about real emotions. What I believe his basically saying is: look at me, one of the best directors ever, a maker of masterpieces, now begging to be financed to make something because of you stupid uneducated kids, all watching meaningless "movies" don't spending money on mine.

I also have a fair good TV, and to be honest, I don't spend much money going to theaters, I'm changing that, because I believe there are many great films being made today, great, great movies, on the A24, Amazon Studios, and not just that, independent movies are starting to have more recognition I believe, it's getting easier for the really good ones to reach the theaters because of the festivals, and because more great actors are more open to participate in them.

ScarletLion 10-14-19 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by JoaoRodrigues (Post 2041238)
I also enjoyed Scorsese comments on superhero movies, because I kinda agree with him, I just don't really enjoyed why I believe he said it.

It won't be shown in Portugal as well, not sure why. I'm sure it will probably appear in some crappy small cinema, but I won't search for it.

Yes, nice observation, and I think that pissed him a little bit, and might be one of the reasons he went all gypsy on superhero movies. After that affirmation, days later he said that he believes cinemas should have more narrative movies, movies where the audience shouldn't be focused on the plot, shouldn't be waiting for something at the end, in one word, more artistic films, about real emotions. What I believe his basically saying is: look at me, one of the best directors ever, a maker of masterpieces, now begging to be financed to make something because of you stupid uneducated kids, all watching meaningless "movies" don't spending money on mine.

I also have a fair good TV, and to be honest, I don't spend much money going to theaters, I'm changing that, because I believe there are many great films being made today, great, great movies, on the A24, Amazon Studios, and not just that, independent movies are starting to have more recognition I believe, it's getting easier for the really good ones to reach the theaters because of the festivals, and because more great actors are more open to participate in them.
Yeah pretty much. I agree with Scorsese's main point.

It's a good time for movies and seeing them. It's a shame for the avid cinema goer though that this is now becoming the norm - interesting movies not shown in your city.

mojofilter 10-14-19 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 2037989)
Three-and-a-half hours is a long time to spend in that uncanny valley, but I guess we'll see.
This could be 10 hours long and I won't complain.



3.5 hours of watching a Scorsese/Deniro/Pacino/Pesci/Keitel mob crime drama beats all the Marvel and DC Comics movies combined.

Iroquois 10-14-19 11:48 AM

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It's less the length than the effects, but then again it's not like the people who have managed to see it complained too much (if at all) about that particular aspect so I'm not too worried.

Doolallyfrank 11-28-19 08:35 PM

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It's long, it feels long, the de-aging wasnt 5star

Wyldesyde19 11-28-19 10:05 PM

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If you think that’s too long stay away from Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather part 1 and 2, Schindlers List, Apocalypse Now.....you know, classics.

Doolallyfrank 11-28-19 10:58 PM

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There are long films that don't feel long


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