Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
Films that defy logic and touch the core of humanity or transcendence, placing them among the most sacred and revered works. Films of utmost ethical or artistic merit that uplift the soul to a sublime level of moral or spiritual refinement and excellence.
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Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
Kaili Blues
An Elephant Sitting Still This is not a burial it is a resurrection La Jetee The Passion of Joan of Arc Ordet Persona Soy Cuba Three Colors Blue The Double Life of Veronique In the Mood for Love The Isle Poetry Failan A Moment of Innocence Stalker Woman of the Dunes Wings of Desire Maborosi Embrace of the Serpent Lilya-4-ever The Spirit of the Beehive Ida The Passenger Code Unknown Beau Travail Titane Uzak |
Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2391861)
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Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
Embrace of the Serpent is great. Everyone should see it.
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Defending Your Life (1991)
https://assets.nflxext.com/us/boxsho...0/60004553.jpg Deeper than you think. |
Putting in those terms, touching the core, just one: Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East? (1989)
There are many spiritual significant, though. |
Originally Posted by EsmagaSapos (Post 2392313)
Putting in those terms, touching the core, just one: Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East? (1989)
The director's follow-up The People in White is undeniably a much superior film. |
Originally Posted by DonnaMartinez (Post 2392330)
"The Tree of Life" (2011)
Originally Posted by DonnaMartinez (Post 2392330)
"Life of Pi" (2012)
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"Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring" (2003)
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Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2392339)
Leaving aside whether it was spiritual, it was absurdly fast-paced. The director throws at you up to 5 things at once and gives you merely 3 or 4 minutes to think about them before he assaults you with 5 other things. That's why good slow cinema is even up to 10 hours long. So that the viewer's brain has time to absorb what it's seeing. The condensation of Buddhist references is IMPOSSIBLE to grasp unless you're an absolute expert on the topic. Even the characters themselves are walking symbols. Every five minutes there's another reference to a Buddhist parable, legend, or sutra. Even if you more or less know them, you need time to remember what they were about, but before you do, the director adds two more. I'm positive most people who love this film don't understand it at all. Which is fine in and of itself if the film has other things to offer. But what else is there to love in it? OK, the cinematography is nice, but not masterful. The film isn't contemplative enough. It's too condensed for that.
The director's follow-up The People in White is undeniably a much superior film. The director's point is to show on film the koans, like you very well said, which are wrongly accepted in Japanese Zen as parables, or mysteries that only an enlightened being can grasp. In fact, they aren't. They are merely stories written on paper by those who, throughout the centuries, in China, climbed mountains to ask questions to the known Zen Masters. The word "Master" is wrongly understood in Western culture, they had no position of authority, they didn't teach anything, they were farmers who lived in a community, didn't write any books, didn't paint anything, they didn't meditate in any pose, they were there, and answered questions if anyone asked. They were there not to be secluded, escape or form a new society, they were there because they would be killed otherwise. This is history. All that you see, like you said, is the representation through film, of those famous koans, that, in historical fact, were not actually from Zen Masters, were merely tools used to point out, by the Japanese, from a position of authority, who were enlightened and who were not, like a key. The film essentially is not to be understood, there is nothing to really understand, is not knowledge of any kind, is not to be absorbed and kept somewhere. It's formed around two questions that are essentially the same: where did we come, what did come, where do we go, is there anything to go. The film title is exactly the same. The entry and final scene, alone, resumes the whole thing for the author, and this phrase you won't find in any scripture (at least by these words): "Forever and ever, all is originally empty. There is no beginning, and no end. The thing which neither comes into being, neither perishes." In the final scene, the orphan boy, who dealt with the most essential: life and death, burns the old master scriptures, it abandons the inquiry, and this is contrary to other spiritual films, or even books, even Buddhism, which has a point, to be free from suffering. In all essence, only the boy got it. |
Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2392341)
Yeah, I loved it. I'm afraid I could rate it lower now, though.
Beautiful, relaxing picture. Poetic in a simple, even Taoist way, the stages. But it reflects the essential life of the director, to receive pain, to give pain, and to like it, and that many couldn't possibly, slightly, start to relate. |
Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
There are many facets of Buddhist philosophy that I find elegant and profound like the concepts of "sunyata" and "dependent arising", and others such as the asceticism and negation of desire which are quite separable, and do not necessarily follow from such core ideas.
The differing views of Buddhist philosophy extends into modern Western thought through the divergence of Nietzsche's and Schopenhauer's respective ideas. Unfortunately there's a dearth of films which express or tackle Buddhism in a sufficiently in-depth manner. As far as I'm concerned, only the aforementioned Bodhi-Dharma (1989) and probably Mandala (1981) have not shied away from broaching topics of the self and transcendence through the lens of Buddhist philosophy. |
Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
Just to be a little pedantic, but one of the most misused terms in cinema and by extension all of the arts is the term "transcendence". To transcend is to basically mean "to go out of"; to move beyond the limits of ordinary experience into a spiritual or other-worldly experience. This is opposed to the term "immanence", which means to "entirely remain within" given experience. What makes Buddhism so difficult to grasp in Western logic is that while Platonism and Christianity are clearly transcendent, Buddhism has a mixture of transcendence and immanence, or rather weaves both into its worldview.
For clarity's sake, "transcendental" has a very particular definition and meaning in Western philosophy, and that has absolutely nothing to do with transcendence. "Transcendental" would be the "conditions for the possibility of", like a set of grounding structures upon which reality is built out of, but nevertheless is an empty form that cannot be separated (except in theory) from the substance that it conditions. Hence, in aesthetic criticism we ought to say that so-and-so film has the quality of being "transcendent" rather than "transcendental". |
Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
I just realized I haven't properly replied to the question. Adding on to what has already been mentioned... I think Ordet is the definitive film about transcendence.
Nothing Bad Can Happen (2013) Himala (1981) Travellers (1992) Yeelen (1987) Funeral Rites (1970) Love (1971) Beginning (2020) Godland (2022) |
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James Cameron´s TITANIC was a highly spiritual movie in my opinion.
The movie opened my inner pandora´s box of pure evil hatred. I wasn´t aware of feeling actual HATE in this way ever before. |
Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
On The Waterfront
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Re: Your favorite sublime, sacred & spiritual films?
A Hidden Life - Terrence Malick's 2019 film is incredible.
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