No Time to Die (James Bond 25)
 

After a few rumours and stuff, and whether or not Craig would return...


This will be Daniel Craig's last outing as Bond.


And, after rumours of who would director... at one point Denis Villeneuve was offered the job... it's been revealed that Danny Boyle has written a complete script, and will be directing too.


Naomie Harris is expected to return as Moneypenny, and Ben Wishaw is expected to return as Q.
Rory Kinnear is rumoured to return as Bill Tanner.


Release date is pencilled as November 2019.

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been waiting for more news on this, i do hope this film carries over nicely and better than spectre, i would like a story named: the hildebrand rarity, such mystique about the name.

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I'll have to get caught up. I've still only seen Skyfall at this point.

I need to watch Spectre as it's the only Bond I haven't seen so far.

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Its not that bad, more than the individual parts don't really come together as well as SKyfall I'd say.

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Danny boyle is no longer directing...

Just read this myself. Creative differences.

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I was never opposed to the idea because I like weird collabs like that, Boyle seemed like a unique choice. That said I could never really envision a Boyle-directed Bond flick.

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Martin Campbell can’t be busy.

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That’s not good. That’s sounds like studio control issues stifling creativity. It showed in the very poor spectre and the Star Wars movies...very disappointing.

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It's not surprising, though. Bond has always been a producer-driven franchise where the directors have been hired guns more than anything else - up until GoldenEye there were only a handful of directors (one of whom started out as an editor on earlier Bonds) and even when the directors started to diversify from GoldenEye onwards they still functioned mainly as journeymen (best demonstrated by how a literal Oscar-winner like Mendes can still end up doing Spectre). As such, I never really had high hopes for Boyle making it work, especially not when I factor in how I don't particularly like most of what I've seen from him anyway.

I had to laugh yesterday. Along with the abundant typos we usually see on BBC News, they were reporting this story and made a truly ridiculous gaffe. Under the heading telling us that Boyle had pulled out of the film it said that he'd previously directed 4 Bond films including Spectre.

The Telegraph reports that the “creative differences” came down to the film’s villain, namely his characterization and casting. It had been previously reported that Boyle wanted the villain to be a Russian and to have the film’s plot tackle the real world’s current political, uh, tension. The producers weren’t all too happy about this, nor with his choice of Polish actor Tomasz Kot whom he saw as a “left field” decision.

Craig apparently has the power of veto regarding the casting and couldn’t come to an agreement with Boyle.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d=tmg_share_em

The guy:

https://i.imgur.com/vbcErUW.jpg

Well if they can't agree on something like that it's a poor do.

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Craig has the power of what?? So he has final say on the cast? Must be quite ridiculous to try and direct a huge production like Bond and have this kind of interference from an actor.

That being said I don't think we know the full story yet, might well be Boyle causing trouble.

According to that article, and I’d heard this before, he had a say in the casting of each film’s Bond girl and, now, I guess the villains as well. Supposedly, he made the final decision to cast Eva Green in Casino Royals way back.

His having input on the casting makes sense. I mean if there's no chemistry or basic compatibility there it would be a big problem. The only female character I've disliked has been Naomie Harris' Moneypenny but she works well with Craig's Bond.

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Well if that's the case, Daniel Craig has made some rather good decisions with the casting going by the films so far.

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Wow it’s interesting to hear the power play behind the scenes. I remember hearing something about the actors in the fast and the furious and how some of their contracts wouldn’t allow for them to lose fights. Sounds very difficult to ‘play creatively’ if this is the case.

Yeah but did he come up with the idea? Monica Bellucci for instance seemed to have been someone else's suggestion and his response — like any sane man's would have been — was of course, why hasn't she been in one yet :)?

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Deadline’s reporting that Jean-Marc Vallee (Dallas Buyers Club and Sharp Objects) and Edgar Wright are at the top of the list to replace Boyle.

https://deadline.com/2018/08/bond-25...ig-1202451415/

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Saïd Taghmaoui is apparently standing by for the villain role.

https://www.thenational.ae/arts-cult...llain-1.768217

They don't have a clue what they're doing do they?

They’re starting from scratch and who knows what elements from the previous iteration will make the crossover to the next. It’ll be a while before we get anything solid too since Craig just signed up to do another movie with Rian Johnson -

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/d...on-1202932398/

I guess it won’t.

Cary Fukunaga will direct.

https://twitter.com/007/status/1042688562335047681

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He directed 8 eps of true detective...I believe all season one. That show was phenomenal...season 1 only. He can direct it would seem.

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He also directed Beasts of No Nation with future Bond Idris Elba.

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That'll never happen unfortunately, there will be a black Bond for sure, but I remember these arguments for Colin Salmon. For Elba it's an age thing now

Freddie Mercury vs. James Bond.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/b...ls-1203151088/

Lupita Nyong’o is also rumored to join.

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Idris Elba is too old to play Bond now, in his 50s he looks like now. Who wants that for a new Bond?

Don’t sweat it, ponyboy.

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I wish they weren't bringing back Madeleine Swann (Léa Seydoux) again, as I felt her and Craig did not have good chemistry together and feel they should just forget about that character.

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^ Oo I liked Madeleine Swann, so glad to hear she is going to be in the new Bond film. :)

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Sounds like the new Bond is going to be more of a sequel to the previous film.

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But so many fans of James Bond hated Spectre, and it was possibly the worst one on the series for me, if not one of the worst. So why would they want to make a sequel to one, that the majority of fans didn't seem to like even?

Maybe because it would be weird if she wasn't in the next one, given how Spectre ended.

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Well for most of the movies, Bond takes off with the girl in the end, and the girl is forgotten about in the next movie. Why is Spectre any different?

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The Craig movies have a stronger focus on continuity in general.

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Yeah I guess so. But if they must bring her back I feel they should kill her off right away, since I feel that her and Bond didn't have good chemistry. And I feel they shouldn't bring back Christoff Waltz's character, and just write it so that he never gets out of prison and move on to better villains and just put Spectre in the past.

It's likely that Daniel Craig will still play 007 for the next several Bond films. He's stated that he'll continue with the character "...as long as I still get a kick out of it." It's hard to turn down those gargantuan paydays. Plus, he's very good in the role. He'll probably stop only when he gets too old to play the character.

~Doc

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“Look up to the skies and seeeeeeee...”

Perhaps unsurprising that the lack of a title for the film drained all the interest out of the press conference. There might be a cast in place but a title will give the thing its character.

The title just leaked

It’s “Bondhemian Rhapsody” and the climax will have Craig fight Malek to the sound of ‘Killer Queen’!

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Killing Eve's Phoebe Waller Bridge is on the writing team I see. I was a bit worried about all the talk about 'women' and it's going to be turned into politically correct view of 'female characters/film for the me too movement' but seeing her stuff in Fleabag and Killing Eve, not too worried now that it will go far in that direction. I'm hoping with her view on 'violent women' we will get a really nasty villainess Bond GIRL in the new film.

:D

Obviously coming up with a title that makes sense for the story will get more and more difficult. They don't have the luxury of having a title to start with and presumably don't want to use existing titles from any of the post-Fleming writers of Bond novels. My favourite of those titles incidentally is For Special Services.

Skyfall was an excellent title I think. Spectre was just convenient ;).

One actual Fleming title that hasn't been used yet is Risico, although I notice that there was a Swedish short fan film by that name. They didn't let the grass grow.

I'm in the UK and there's a fairly regular drip feed of media opinions about how great this writer and actor is. When, like me, you don't know her or the productions, that can be very annoying.

They were overstating the lack of female main villains last night actually, forgetting Elektra King.

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I would think that having only one film out of twenty-four feature a female main villain (and twenty years ago on top of that) definitely qualifies as having a lack of them.

I think Rosa Klebb in From Russia with Love was mentioned but Elektra King wasn't (fair enough we're not supposed to know she's the Big Bad going into the film). I think it's pretty good that there's been at least one, more contemporary, main female villain.

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What i think is that i really enjoyed daniel craig as bond, he s a great actor , but i really think we need a funnier approach and a dark skin actor to replace him, it s a shame not many actors would fit the role like roger moore, timothy dalton and pierce brosnan did, but we need the impossible gadgets , exotic locals to get back, The spy who loved me anyone??

I considered Rosa Klebb, though I figured she's a debatable example due to her being a subordinate to Blofeld who only really becomes the film's de facto Big Bad when Blofeld kills Kronsteen (who had more of a claim to Big Bad status than she did).

Blofeld's always in the background in those early films so I think it's okay to class Klebb, Largo etc as the chief enemies.

Just read that A Reason to Die was the prospective title for this film but it was dropped as they felt it was weak. Actually I think it does sound like an authentic Bond title and I don't think it's bad at all.

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I think they might be avoiding elaborate, oblique titles in the wake of Quantum of Solace - note how after that the films had blunt one-word titles referring to major plot elements like Skyfall or Spectre.

She's talked about Bond staying "true to his origins" so any shift will I suspect me more in how the story treats his nature. Really though I think the Craig Bond's are already clearly different to what we saw previously(besides maybe Goldeneye) when it comes to taking a more negative view of Bonds womanising and using of women to further his missions.

I'm guessing the main potential shift could well be how they treat Lea Seyduex's character. Rather than following the Bourne route and fridging her ASAP to setup a revenge plot I suspect it will be a role of a bit more substance.

Honestly the worst examples of "woke blockbusters" I think tend to be films that aren't really that political at all, just looking for a gimmicks to cover lazy writing.

That's true but even they will start to get flat after a bit. Skyfall was a brilliant title, really brilliant I think. Risico 's the only genuine Fleming one that hasn't been used yet.

Yes I hope that doesn't happen and she has an active role, considering that she's quite handy herself.

Anyone reasonably mobile can be shown to be effective in terms of physical threat in a film of course but I think its another thing to be able to sell it as a character and she's one of the best actresses currently working at selling anger/threat IMHO.

Yeah, I haven't seen that film in proper sequence and in one sitting but what I gradually saw of her I liked very much.

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They went with the deliberately misleading clickbaity headline, of course. :laugh: They mean that she'll take over the number "007" after he leaves it or something.

I'm reading this with a wry smile, as it's a way of giving some viewers what they want without really having to stick to it.

Only thing is, when Craig leaves it could be effectively a reboot, so what happened in his "universe" if you like wouldn't have to continue.

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But isn't Lashana Lynch a woman? Wouldn't introducing a woman as the new Bond cause a lot of other problems?

Yes, and did you read about the new film in development about the historic Tuskegee Institute? Patricia Arquette has signed to play Booker T. Washington. I can't wait!!

Hahahahaha they've doubled down on stupidity, not only a Bond of colour but a woman too (or am I missing something here?).

We've had all the talk about a potential female Bond or a black Bond. Neither seemed to hold any fascination for the Bond producers. What they're doing here is like a compromise – a one-off female, black 007. When Craig leaves the role and the reboot comes, we'll be back to familiar territory.

So will this be like Dark Knight Rises where "Robin" (J.Gordon-Levitt) takes the torch but nothing ever comes of it and a few years we'll be back to James Bond (presumably male and white)?

Exactly what I'm expecting. We're seeing a female, black 007 – not Bond. It's a gesture but nothing more.

They could have done the same with one of our other big institutions, Doctor Who. We could have seen a parallel universe where the Doctor was female (which incidentally would have been my preference) but instead they went for a female incarnation of the Doctor in our universe. 13 male incarnations in a row and then the 14th is female – hard to accept.

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I don't think audiences would accept a female Bond because Bond seduces about 2-3 women a movie on average. If they have a woman doing this, audiences hate women who throw herself at multiple men throughout the movie. I am open to a female action hero behaving this way, but most audiences won't be.

And, amusingly, this character trait doesn't have to be shared by Bond's replacement as 007 in Bond 25.

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But the seducing multiple lovers is a big part of the James Bond fantasy appeal, so what's the point if you are not going to include it?

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Obviously she'll be a lesbian, got to tick all the boxes and ship those LGBT tickets.

You're talking about the character of James Bond. I'm talking about the female 007 in this new film, who may or may not have similar traits.

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Yeah I know what you mean, I just thought that fans will not want to see the movie unless the character has similar traits, since the seduction of whoever you want is a part of why people go to the Bond movies. It seems like removing a huge reason to go, if you want to have a new character that doesn't have that trait.

I watchedd a ****ton of movies and there are 2 female seducers that pulled this off.


One is the main chick from Big Mama and the other is in that Soldenbergh Gina Carano movie.


It is ****ing hard.

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From the reports this isn't a female Bond, rather its a plot point that Bond has retired at the start of the film and the new 007 is a woman who's sent to try and get him back into the fold for some reason.

I think if this went to go that direction for entire films its how they should do it, expand the franchise to include other 00 agents.

It's actually an angle – a reasonable one I think – that is suggested by fans of many other franchises. Introduce a new character with the qualities some viewers want, rather than changing the existing one. A recent example of the powers-that-be taking the opposite position was Sulu being retconned as gay in the rebooted Star Trek.

Sulu 's gayness was so important that you could have missed it if you took a 2 minute pee break.

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Damn I lost my bet. Took a Chinese transexual gay man who is against gun violence and drives a hybrid in who will by the new Bond pool. Win some lose some. Congrats on whoever had black female lesbian.

Where did the lesbian bit come in? We weren't briefed on that :p.

I think the problem Bond has is that the current obsession is representation of lead characters rather than content of films. In reality I think the Bond franchise has been moving with the times at least since Goldeneye but the way its done so isn't changing Bond, its in changing how it treats him. So the Bond of the 60's womanising being idealised as given way to the modern Bond's womanising being viewed as an outdated relic that often gets the women in question killed. The Craig films tend to be the story of a character being enlightened towards behaviour considered more morally correct over the course of them.

I do think introducing different 00 agents would be something that could work. These agents could exist in the same world, interact with M, Q and the rest of Mi6 and go on similar kinds of missions. I could imagine Idris Elba for example being more of a Luthar like agent, brutal but charming detective who rises into Mi6 somehow and faces disrespect from the posh white boys.

I remember them trying to copy Bourne so hard in Quontam of Solace that they forgot to make a decent story then too.

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Sulu never had a love interest in Star Trek though did he? Therefore, what's the point of giving him a sexual orientation at all, if it's not relevant?

Yeah, I think there's something in that. It reminds me of Alfie :).

They are missing a trick when you think about it. There's some spin-off potential somewhere. I remember M mentioning 009 in The World is Not Enough and of course 006 is seen in GoldenEye. And the big row of seated 00 agents we don't really see all the way back in Thunderball.

I don't think so but he was often shown as interested in the opposite sex.

I was thinking today about the speedboat sequence with Bond saying "Navigate!" and how annoyingly similar that was to Tomorrow Never Dies.

I mean in one sense I think its quite admirable that Barbra Broccoli has avoided spin offs, generally I think she's shown a desire to produce quality films rather than cash in during the Craig era.

That said I do think its something that could potentially be done effectively given that you could involve a lot of the existing Bond world.

I do actually think that Bond under Craig has become a very interesting character(much moreso than Jason Bourne who's mostly reactive) for an action hero though so I'd hope for any new character to have the same kind of substance to them rather than being sold purely on gender.

Oh okay, well making Sulu gay, just cause the original actor was gay, would be like remaking Greese, and making Danny a scientologist, just cause Travolta is. It would just be forced I think.

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I like how Yoda immediately sussed out the "new 007 =/= new James Bond" angle but everyone still misinterpreted it and rattled off some predictable complaints anyway.

Regarding spin-offs, I recall when Die Another Day came out and there was some attempt to try giving Halle Berry's character a spin-off, but obviously nothing ever came of that. Maybe that's why they don't bother with them.

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Title name confirmed: No time to die april 2020

Yes I seem to remember some talk of that at the time but I'd guess the negative reaction to the film and the reboot of the franchise killed that off and perhaps soured those involved on the idea of spinoffs.

I wouldn't be shock if we saw something come up in the next few years though both to satisfy demands for diversity and to give the franchise a bit of a new direction. Say Tom Hiddlestone as a new Bond and Idris Elba and Scarlett Johasson as other agents.

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/s...20190820171211

Very unusual title design they've come up with – didn't expect it to be so retro. With the two "o"s I expected the "007" to be integrated into the lettering as with Casino Royale.

beautiful latina from head to toe, man i fantasize about her

She's in The Informer 2019 with Clive Owen and Joel Kinnaman, probably a bad movie, but watching it anyway :p

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Major news folks as Hans zimmer takes over as movie soundtrack composer

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After seeing the new trailer, it doesn't look very promising. I didn't like the villain or Bond woman in Spectre and found them to be weak. Now they are bringing them both back, and I feel they should have done away with them and just concentrate on the new characters. But I will still see it of course and see how it is.

she has become an obsession to me, such lovely lines....a goddess