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aronisred 07-29-21 07:51 PM

Best surreal movies
 
I will start with few
- The revenant
- Annihilation
- Apocalypse now

Wyldesyde19 07-29-21 07:55 PM

Are those really surreal? When I think of surrealist films, I think of Delicatessen, The City of Lost Children, Santa Sangre, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie.

ironpony 07-29-21 08:09 PM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Does La Dolce Vita count as surreal? It felt like it was, but I cannot put my finger on why exactly.

Citizen Rules 07-29-21 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by aronisred (Post 2224863)
I will start with few
- The revenant
- Annihilation
- Apocalypse now
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2224864)
Are those really surreal?
That's what I was thinking. Well Annihilation was kinda surreal, but I wouldn't call it best.

Originally Posted by ironpony (Post 2224866)
Does La Dolce Vita count as surreal? It felt like it was, but I cannot put my finger on why exactly.
Nah, not really. But of course anyone can call it surreal if they want.

Wyldesyde19 07-29-21 08:27 PM

I should note I’m not a huge fan of Surrealism. I think Bunuel has done it best from what I’ve seen.

Citizen Rules 07-29-21 08:31 PM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Like Ironpony, I'm not sure if I know what surrealistic films are?

Eraserhead?
Deadman?
Solaris?
(which is today's addition to the excellent Foreign Language Countdown)

Wyldesyde19 07-29-21 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2224873)
Like Ironpony, I'm not sure if I know what surrealistic films are?

Eraserhead?
Deadman?
Solaris?
(which is today's addition to the excellent Foreign Language Countdown)
Eraser head for sure.

Wyldesyde19 07-29-21 08:39 PM

Honestly, I think someone like Siddon, or Jinnistan (who I think is a fan of surrealism) cousin rattle off more.
I know Bunuel and Jodorowsky films are.
To add to Eraserhead, Mulholland Drive as well.

Rockatansky 07-29-21 08:45 PM

Meshes of the Afternoon

Wyldesyde19 07-29-21 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2224877)
Meshes of the Afternoon
Nightbeast is displeased you didn’t take this opportunity to name him.

GulfportDoc 07-29-21 08:50 PM

There was quite a bit of surrealism in Hitchcock's Spellbound. Salvador Dali had been hired to design long surreal portions to be used for dream sequences. Quite a bit of it was cut in the final print, but what was left was very effective.

Rockatansky 07-29-21 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2224878)
Nightbeast is displeased you didn’t take this opportunity to name him.
It's too realistic to fit the bill.

ueno_station54 07-29-21 09:18 PM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Not sure what specifically fits the definition but my favourite film that feels right is probably Wax: or The Discovery of Television Among the Bees.

SpelingError 07-29-21 11:01 PM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Tetsuo, The Iron Man

Flicker 07-30-21 07:48 AM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Bertrand Blier's "Buffet Froid" may be my favorite. One of my most re-watched films.

Louis Malle's "Zazie dans le metro" is not far behind, it's a great adaptation of one of my favorite books (one of my most re-read), by one of the founders of surrealism. Also the film features one the best dream sequence ever, especially its ending.

"Hellzapoppin" is a classic in humorous nonsense.

Most Terry Gilliam movies would qualify.

And of course, most Buñuel, Fellini, Bergman...

Wooley 07-30-21 08:05 AM

I was thinking Brazil, Un Chien Andalou, Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life, El Topo, Enter The Void, 8 1/2, maybe Valerie And Her Week Of Wonders, that sort of thing.

mattiasflgrtll6 07-30-21 08:17 AM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
I think a word like "surreal" can be hard to define, and although a movie may contain a plot that takes twists and turns that border on the surreal, it doesn't automatically make the movie as a whole surreal. However, I think all these movies more and less might qualify:

One Point O
Delicatessen
Pi
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
The Antenna
Hausu
Jacob's Ladder
Peter No-Tail In Americat
Eraserhead
Videodrome
The City Of Lost Children
The Holy Mountain
Altered States
Brazil
Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Tetsuo: Body Hammer
Mulholland Drive
The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie
Begotten

Flicker 07-30-21 08:18 AM

Re: Best surreal movies
 
Also, I wouldn't qualify any of the OP's list as surreal, so I'm not sure what we're talking about.

Surrealism is a specific series of irrational non-sequiturs that make sense only at a symbolic, aesthetic or subconscious level. Some sort of dream logic that don't follow the rules of real life, but evoke a deeper truth or meaning, not filtered by reflection. An attempt to reach the instinctive, pre-reflexive self. Surrealists were fascinated by the emergence of psychiatry (the idea of the subconscious), and by "primitive art" (that didn't follow our internalized codes and expectations), and methods that short-circuited our reflexivity (such as "automated writing", or artistic constraints based on pure chance). And of course, used this as a material for quite elaborate pieces (you can't make a film, paint or write a book without putting your mind to it).

In cinema, I'd simply call "surrealist" a film that has a dream-like quality that clashes with rational, material possibilities, but still evoke emotions that "feel true" at a level that logic cannot express. A bit like poetry. Which is distinct from being just clumsily illogical, or coherently supernatural.

And the OP is possibly asking for something completely different ?

John Dumbear 07-30-21 08:56 AM

Holy Motors ?

Chypmunk 07-30-21 09:07 AM

Blade Runner

Surreal movie for sure, in fact I'm looking at the dvd as I type this.


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