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dadgumblah 09-25-18 01:16 AM

Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
Well, for me there's no way it will be better than the Peckinpah classic but I might be interested because I think Gibson is a fine director. I'm interested in @Holden Pike and what he has to say about this, but I think I can guess.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/new...D=ansmsnnews11

mojofilter 09-25-18 08:31 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I'm loving the resurgence of Mel Gibson as one of Hollywood's top dogs. He's truly one of my favorite actors and directors.

Even though I'm not a big fan of remakes, I am excited to see this. I'm anticipating an all-star cast. Maybe my man Stallone can have a part in this? Mel is close friends with Sly so I hope it happens.

Iroquois 09-25-18 09:20 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
This is a big "hell no" from me. Hollywood doesn't need to keep validating Gibson with chance after chance like this, and in light of recent events the prospect of him remaking a movie where the extremely broad subtext amounts to some old guys missing the old days and sticking up for each other no matter what in the face of an ever-changing world that just doesn't want them around anymore seems...ill-advised

Joel 09-25-18 10:13 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I guess my upbringing helped i. Forgiving. I like Gibson, too. And it's about some old bad asses shaking things up a little, that sounds ok to me. Education never ends..for anyone.

Camo 09-25-18 10:45 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
There's a difference between forgiving him and showering him with millions of dollars and awards, praise, etc. Plus it's not like it was one incident, there's been numerous. Initially it was years before the antisemitism with blatant violent sounding homophobia on an Australian radio show i believe, then the antisemitism, then "raped by a pack of N*****" to his ex and mother of his child, then domestic violence charges. Maybe he's just a bad person who doesn't deserve forgiveness or at least not a restoration of his fame and power who should go away.

matt72582 09-25-18 10:57 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I didn't love the original one, but I'd rather the audience be given the chance, instead of 2-3 execs deciding for everyone.

Iroquois 09-25-18 11:21 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
Even leaving all that personal baggage aside, it's hard to imagine Gibson actually doing anything distinctive or worthwhile with the material that'd justify its existence.

mojofilter 09-25-18 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1953088)
Even leaving all that personal baggage aside, it's hard to imagine Gibson actually doing anything distinctive or worthwhile with the material that'd justify its existence.
As a visionary and filmmaker, Mel is incredible. I'm sure the remake will look and sound amazing. As for the plot, I believe it might be different from the original. We'll see.

Saunch 09-25-18 11:31 AM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
Probably just a documentation of the guy’s own psychosis.

If you’re into that...

pahaK 09-25-18 12:29 PM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
As a film maker I like Gibson and I don't honestly care whether he's an ass or not in real life. Don't think The Wild Bunch needs a remake though.

Joel 09-25-18 01:00 PM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I work with 90 percent black people. I asked two different people today about Gibsons past comments. Guess what?

They still either like or love him.

As far as showering him with money.

He makes the studios money.

Time to move on, is my opinion.

Camo 09-25-18 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Joel (Post 1953104)
I work with 90 percent black people. I asked two different people today about Gibsons past comments. Guess what?

They still either like or love him.
Oh wow, that must mean his behaviour is okay because two people in your anecdote is okay with it, thanks for setting me straight.

Time to move on, is my opinion.
Agreed, move on shouldn't mean give him millions of dollars and awards and just completely accept his awful behaviour though. When is enough enough here? Seriously? He's been racist, homophobic, antisemitic, both physically and verbally abusive to women. Across decades not all in one incident. All he hasn't done is rape or murder, is that the only point when we should stop celebrating someone? I'm not saying anyone should give any thought to him at all but maybe he shouldn't be celebrated after demonstrating a consistent pattern of abuse.

He shouldn't have even apologized (after loads of different incidents), he should've just said "I hate blacks, gays, jews and beat women yes, and?", not as if most would care any more than they do now.

mojofilter 09-25-18 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Joel (Post 1953104)
I work with 90 percent black people. I asked two different people today about Gibsons past comments. Guess what?

They still either like or love him.

As far as showering him with money.

He makes the studios money.

Time to move on, is my opinion.
The man is not perfect, that's for sure. But I don't judge him based on what he's been through in his personal life. Professionally, the man is a genius filmmaker and a prolific and highly charismatic actor.

Think of it this way, I still love watching Kevin Spacey movies in spite of the troubles he was involved in, and still believe him to be one of the most incredible actors of our time.

Citizen Rules 09-25-18 01:21 PM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I won't boycott Woody Allen's movies based on his very questionable personal life and I sure in the hell won't boycott Mel Gibson. I always liked him as an actor and have liked him as a director too.
Screw PC. Judge movies for themselves.

Joel 09-25-18 01:30 PM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I understand, Camo. Im not excusing his behavior. IM forgiving him.

Ill keep asking co workers for my own enlightenment.

mojofilter 09-25-18 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1953109)
I won't boycott Woody Allen's movies based on his very questionable personal life and I sure in the hell won't boycott Mel Gibson. I always liked him as an actor and have liked him as a director too.
Screw PC. Judge movies for themselves.
I totally agree with you, CR!

Camo 09-25-18 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1953109)
I won't boycott Woody Allen's movies based on his very questionable personal life and I sure in the hell won't boycott Mel Gibson. I always liked him as an actor and have liked him as a director too.
Screw PC. Judge movies for themselves.
Are you telling me saying someone who has showed a continuous pattern of awful behaviour including beating his ex while she was holding their child, shouldn't be continually restored to positions of power is being PC? Are you kidding me? It's amazing how you make your comment sound like you're taking some brave stand by continuing to support a megarich old powerful white, racist, homophobic, antisemitic, woman beater. How big of you and everyone that repped your post.

Yoda 09-25-18 02:18 PM

The argument is about whether you can or should separate someone's personal behavior from their work.

Even though I mostly take the position that you can't and shouldn't, I don't think that's an easy question with an obvious answer.

Joel 09-25-18 04:12 PM

I don't think it's matter of trying to be "big" about something.

Take my father, for example. He was an abusive, womanizing pig when he was on the bottle.

Now that he's turned it around, what? Can't be my dad anymore??

I think "acting big" is when you try to put a lock on someone, as if theyre damned for eternity for their wrong doings.

Swan 09-25-18 04:19 PM

Re: Mel Gibson to direct remake of "The Wild Bunch"
 
I'm still waiting for the day they decide to remake The Godfather. It's not an "if" at this point but a "when". :p


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