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TONGO 10-20-16 01:29 PM

Logan
 

TONGO 10-20-16 01:32 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
This actually looks like it could be the best one of the bunch :up:

MovieMeditation 10-20-16 01:51 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
This looks like an actual film, with a dramatic story and actual characters...

I've been missing that in "superhero movies". Real movies that has the superhero stuff second or like an element. Like The Dark Knight, Watchmen etc.

SeeingisBelieving 10-20-16 02:21 PM

This does look very good.

doubledenim 10-20-16 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1596069)
This looks like an actual film, with a dramatic story and actual characters...

I've been missing that in "superhero movies". Real movies that has the superhero stuff second or like an element.
Like The Dark Knight, Watchmen etc.
That is why I found GotG to be the greatest thing ever. It looked and felt like someone poured a comic book onto the screen.

This looks like a bunch of exposition sitting in the woods, in a car, in a cabin and then throw in a action scene. Not that it is a bad thing, it just seems like a waste of the characters.

We already have regular movies.

TONGO 10-20-16 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596103)
That is why I found GotG to be the greatest thing ever. It looked and felt like someone poured a comic book onto the screen.

This looks like a bunch of exposition sitting in the woods, in a car, in a cabin and then throw in a action scene. Not that it is a bad thing, it just seems like a waste of the characters.

We already have regular movies.
Aaa!! AAa! :eek: No, no strongly disagree! :laugh: I grew up reading comics, and the best superhero movies were X-Men 1 & 2 and Iron Man 1. All of these had a story, and character development. Since then they've leaned on special effects greatly, and are over saturating the movies with characters.

Hugh Jackman is a great actor, and it looks like hes gonna try and tap into that for Wolvie going out of the franchise (this will be his last time performing the character). I think, and hope this will be one of the better ones. :)

MovieMeditation 10-20-16 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596103)
That is why I found GotG to be the greatest thing ever. It looked and felt like someone poured a comic book onto the screen.

This looks like a bunch of exposition sitting in the woods, in a car, in a cabin and then throw in a action scene. Not that it is a bad thing, it just seems like a waste of the characters.

We already have regular movies.
A waste of the characters? It's just a different angle... I mean, we do have stuff like Watchmen (the comic) and the original comic book, Old Man Logan, which also inspires this movie. They are really down to earth and deeper stories. Then we also have stuff like Ghost World and even American Splendor, whereas the latter is basically based on the ordinary "boring" citizen... so, comic books are just a medium and so are movies. If you think a comic book adaption should be just like GOTG or 300 or any heavily stylized and/or action/CG heavy production, then you misunderstood something.

The Dark Knight, like it or not, is hailed as one of the best superhero movies of all time. Why? Because we have a great story on our hands, with actual characters you care for or at least find interesting... it has a real setting and takes its time with every element. Also, for a "mainstream blockbuster", it barely got any action in it and the climax is based on the psychology of our main characters, hero and villain, and is not action heavy but plot heavy and with focus on the characters and story arc.

I enjoy fun comic book movies, but saying "we already have regular movies" is just a laughable statement and even more so saying that this movie looks to be "a waste of the characters" when it seems to be the EXACT opposite: it's ABOUT the characters, actually, and not explosions and CGI...

doubledenim 10-20-16 06:38 PM

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I agree to all the different points of view for each individual.

What I want is the comic book experience from a movie. I take nothing away from the Dark Knight movies, but the grounded in reality phrase seems like code for lacking imagination.

MovieMeditation 10-20-16 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596154)
I agree to all the different points of view for each individual.

What I want is the comic book experience from a movie. I take nothing away from the Dark Knight movies, but the grounded in reality phrase seems like code for lacking imagination.
:laugh:

I'm sorry, denim, but you just double-shot yourself in the foot with the two posts you made. You pretty much just talk down to movies and posts without coming with something of weight or reason yourself. I guess we won't get much further than this, clearly...

TONGO 10-20-16 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596154)
I agree to all the different points of view for each individual.

What I want is the comic book experience from a movie. I take nothing away from the Dark Knight movies, but the grounded in reality phrase seems like code for lacking imagination.
Well if its in the vein of X-Men 1 & 2, and Iron Man 1, would you be happy? Those were comic books on screen, not so over the top, and actors had the opportunity to act. There was a real story.

Ysee, it broke my heart when they made that last Wolverine film in Japan. That was based off a classic Wolverine limited series by Chris Claremont & Frank Miller which inspired Marvel to give him his own title. The film kinda started out in the same vein, and then halfway thru just became a giant robot bunch of babbling bullcrap. :sick:

I havent read "Old Man Logan" but know its regarded as one of the classics. I hope Jackman finally nails it on his way out, he really is a damn good actor. Yeah hes 6'2" but Id rather have a tall actor play Wolvie than a short jock.

doubledenim 10-20-16 09:39 PM

My desired comic book experience and DK are two different things. I don't see a double-shot on that.

My perception/ perspective is that DK is an action movie with comic characters. I don't want to do the back and forth thing.

When I say comic, I think day-glo things I would never see in reality. Me. Not everyone else. I don't articulate well, form cohesive thoughts, but I don't disrepect or denigrate grounded comic movies.

Iroquois 10-20-16 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596243)
My desired comic book experience and DK are two different things. I don't see a double-shot on that.

My perception/ perspective is that DK is an action movie with comic characters. I don't want to do the back and forth thing.

When I say comic, I think day-glo things I would never see in reality. Me. Not everyone else. I don't articulate well, form cohesive thoughts, but I don't disrepect or denigrate grounded comic movies.
So what do you make of Schumacher's Batman movies?

In any case, I'm actually looking forward to this despite my generally unfavourable opinions of the X-Men movies. At least it looks like it'll do something genuinely different with the genre.

Captain Steel 10-20-16 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 1596113)
Aaa!! AAa! :eek: No, no strongly disagree! :laugh: I grew up reading comics, and the best superhero movies were X-Men 1 & 2 and Iron Man 1. All of these had a story, and character development. Since then they've leaned on special effects greatly, and are over saturating the movies with characters.
I think the reason Iron Man 1 was good was because, for once, they stuck close to the comic. The only thing they really updated for the origin was changing the bad guys who kidnap Stark in the beginning from Viet Cong to Islamonazis to make it fit in modern times.

doubledenim 10-21-16 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1596254)

So what do you make of Schumacher's Batman movies?
I never said one thing is good or bad. Just what I prefer.

Schumacher's movies where not executed well, but I like them stylistically.

Everyone knows the DK movies are great. But to me, there is nothing memorable in them short of a virtuoso perfomance by Ledger.

Iroquois 10-21-16 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596308)
I never said one thing is good or bad. Just what I prefer.

Schumacher's movies where not executed well, but I like them stylistically.

Everyone knows the DK movies are great. But to me, there is nothing memorable in them short of a virtuoso perfomance by Ledger.
I didn't say anything either, I just figured I'd ask how you thought they compared to the dry realism of the Nolan films. Visuals are just one component, after all - Man of Steel and Guardians of the Galaxy have good aesthetics but I'm hard-pressed to say I like them that much.

TONGO 10-21-16 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1596308)
I never said one thing is good or bad. Just what I prefer.

Schumacher's movies where not executed well, but I like them stylistically.

Everyone knows the DK movies are great. But to me, there is nothing memorable in them short of a virtuoso perfomance by Ledger.
Yeah well if theres nothing the audience can relate to causing an emotional resonance, I feel thats why these fall short. If LOGAN is a hit, and the biggest hit of all because they went to acting/storytelling over CGI bonanza, Jackmans gonna be kicking himself for trying too hard before.

X-Men 1 & 2 were rock solid, and then everything mutant was awful until First Class and eventually the Days Of Future Past movie.

Captain Steel 10-21-16 12:58 AM

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X-Men 1 & 2 were lacking one integral aspect that was always present in the comics... costumes.
Yes, I wanted yellow spandex! ;) (And if not, at least Ororo having an African accent.)

TONGO 10-21-16 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 1596321)
X-Men 1 & 2 were lacking one integral aspect that was always present in the comics... costumes.
Yes, I wanted yellow spandex! ;) (And if not, at least Ororo having an African accent.)
Here I am talking storytelling and craft and I sadly must agree because I love spandex, and seeing Halle Berry and Anna Paquin sportin some.....oh mama cita!

Iroquois 10-21-16 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 1596316)
Yeah well if theres nothing the audience can relate to causing an emotional resonance, I feel thats why these fall short. If LOGAN is a hit, and the biggest hit of all because they went to acting/storytelling over CGI bonanza, Jackmans gonna be kicking himself for trying too hard before.

X-Men 1 & 2 were rock solid, and then everything mutant was awful until First Class and eventually the Days Of Future Past movie.
Yeah, emotional resonance is a big factor even in the colourful fun-fests. GotG at least had the leads exhibit tragic back-stories that gave substance to their collective journey from misfits who hated each other to actual companions. I'd even defend Batman and Robin having a sub-plot where Alfred developed an incurable illness and Bruce had to contend with the prospect of losing him. The Bruce-Alfred relationship is an important factor in each of Nolan's films, though it does tend to be overshadowed by obvious plot-critical factors like the Joker or Harvey Dent - the scene in TDKR where Alfred confesses to Bruce is one of its best.

I've got my preferences and all, but I do like it when a film manages to work for me despite not playing to said preferences. Call it the difference between getting what you want and getting what you need.

doubledenim 10-21-16 02:08 AM

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The mother scene and Pratt saving Gamora had an emotional weight that none.... Well, Michael Caine did get me with that Alfred "failed you" scene.

Evan_Wheatley 10-21-16 04:41 AM

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I watched this trailer earlier today and shared it with several of my friends. I am beyond pumped for a hopefully R-rated Wolverine film. It looks like a “Last of Us”-type storyline set in a post-apocalyptic X-men universe. Can’t wait!

Optimus 10-21-16 11:11 AM

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Looks very good. The trailer is awesome.

MovieMeditation 10-21-16 11:12 AM

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I keep rewatching this trailer, it's so damn good!

gandalf26 10-23-16 06:59 PM

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I can't watch the trailer without several questions popping into my head,

Why does he look old?
Why does he have scars?
Why does he say "mutants they are gone now"? is that an example of the trailer mashing a line that isn't in the film?
Why is Xavier in it?
Why is Xavier alive if Logan has gotten old?
Where are the rest of the X-Men?
Is this another apocalyptic future type deal? didn't DOFP just do that?

MovieMeditation 10-23-16 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 1597391)
I can't watch the trailer without several questions popping into my head,

Why does he look old? Wolverine does age... but slowly, very slowly. X-Men Origins showed him and his brother fighting the civil war etc. He is around 200 years old.
Why does he have scars? Look above. He is getting older and worn out and his powers begin to fade. Read the comic 'Old Man Logan' for more (this film is slightly based/inspired by that)
Why does he say "mutants they are gone now"? is that an example of the trailer mashing a line that isn't in the film? I guess they are all dead, I dunno
Why is Xavier in it? why not
Why is Xavier alive if Logan has gotten old? well he was born way after Logan. He is old too now so they kind of caught up with each other i guess
Where are the rest of the X-Men? dead I guess. Will probably be explained in the movie.
Is this another apocalyptic future type deal? didn't DOFP just do that? I'm pretty sure this is the same timeline established by DOFP. But again, why all the mutans are gone/dead (except Xavier appearently) i don't know...
.

gandalf26 10-23-16 07:16 PM

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Wolverine does age... but slowly, very slowly. X-Men Origins showed him and his brother fighting the civil war etc. He is around 200 years old.

Sure I know all this but it just seems a rather sudden ageing.

Suppose it answers a lot of questions though, if his powers are starting to fade, and fade quickly by the looks of things. Will allow Jackman to play Wolverine again maybe, or could this be his last outing.

The above though is slightly contradicted by DOFP which was clearly set into the future with an old Prof Xavier and Logan didn't look nearly as old as he does here.

TONGO 10-23-16 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 1597412)
Sure I know all this but it just seems a rather sudden ageing.

Suppose it answers a lot of questions though, if his powers are starting to fade, and fade quickly by the looks of things. Will allow Jackman to play Wolverine again maybe, or could this be his last outing.

The above though is slightly contradicted by DOFP which was clearly set into the future with an old Prof Xavier and Logan didn't look nearly as old as he does here.
Ive noticed Marvel Comics has started going away from continuity when they can pair a choice writer and artist for one story arc. This movie may be unattached from everything, but just a great story from familiar characters. ;)

gandalf26 10-23-16 07:23 PM

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Yeah looking forward to it, the Wolverine standalone's have been a little lacking. Would be nice to say goodbye to a great character that has been strong since the beginning of the comic book movie boom with a great film.

TONGO 11-11-16 11:37 AM

New B&W photo released from Logan

https://s15.postimg.org/6btn4t70b/Logan_6.jpg

Im really excited for this movie as it looks like its going to a storytelling tone rather than the standard Crash-Boom-Pow formula of superhero movies.

The Rodent 11-11-16 02:44 PM

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The same director behind The Wolverine is doing this one as well, James Mangold.
The Wolverine is the strongest of the X movies, so I'm pretty excited about this one tbh.

TONGO 12-29-16 02:25 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0wmMrtWgAAut7j.jpg

TheUsualSuspect 12-29-16 02:41 PM


The one thing that has always bothered me about these movies is the LACK of continuity. It all started with First Class and the entire series is messed up. So many questions that I doubt this film will answer.

It does look good though. A stand alone flick that will be a perfect send off (hopefully) for Jackman in his iconic role. Fassbender recently stated that he does't know if he'll return for another film because he doesn't know the future of the franchise. They need to let these films rest, no reboot or anything, or at the very least follow a different set of mutants.

Deadpool showed that it can work, give some lesser known mutants a shot at the limelight.

TheUsualSuspect 12-29-16 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by gandalf26 (Post 1597391)
I can't watch the trailer without several questions popping into my head,

Why does he look old?
Why does he have scars?
Why does he say "mutants they are gone now"? is that an example of the trailer mashing a line that isn't in the film?
Why is Xavier in it?
Why is Xavier alive if Logan has gotten old?
Where are the rest of the X-Men?
Is this another apocalyptic future type deal? didn't DOFP just do that?
His AGE and his scars go hand in hand. His power is weakening, so he ages more now and he takes a long time to heal...if at all.

I'm assuming the mutants have been wiped out, which is why they live in an abandoned whatever and not the school. The girl could be the "one to save" the mutants, no idea.

I was surprised to see him in this as well. Wolverine aging the way he does, Xavier should pretty well be dead by now. But we'll have to wait and see if they address this in the film. I have no idea what timeframe this film takes place in, all I know is that it's after everything we've already seen.

The other X-Men are most likely dead.

DOFP did do that, but this looks like an inevitable future, where they could change DOFP.

TONGO 12-30-16 03:39 PM

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Promotional Website for the Logan movie...

http://www.1974framesoflogan.com

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C07tpYDXEAEZDGV.jpg

Sleezy 12-31-16 11:31 AM

I don't know... something just feels off. The trailer is stylish, sure, but why does Wolverine look like Danny Ocean? Also, I question the R-rating. It'll appease those who feel the need to see Wolverine eviscerate someone in fine detail, but that satisfaction only goes so far. Did James Mangold want to make a spiritual sequel to Drive and decided to use Logan to do it?

TONGO 12-31-16 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Sleezy (Post 1621425)
I don't know... something just feels off. The trailer is stylish, sure, but why does Wolverine look like Danny Ocean? Also, I question the R-rating. It'll appease those who feel the need to see Wolverine eviscerate someone in fine detail, but that satisfaction only goes so far. Did James Mangold want to make a spiritual sequel to Drive and decided to use Logan to do it?
Honestly I can handle a little Danny Ocean in a superhero movie right now. I enjoy the Avengers and Marvel movies but theyve been at a consistent level of outragousness that I long for a superhero story, something which has real character development and pacing. I liked X-Men 1 & 2 and Days of Future Past, Im hoping LOGAN joins that group.

Iroquois 12-31-16 11:27 PM

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This excerpt from this end-of-year list about the first 40 minutes definitely has me interested (and at least the movies cited are more intriguing than Drive)...

Logan is a gorgeous-looking movie with overwhelmingly intense action sequences. I actually misted up during one of them. I don’t want to overhype Logan — after all, I’ve only seen forty minutes of it. But I’m still thinking about those forty minutes, its grit and grimness with notes of Mad Max and Unforgiven and Children of Men.

aminemjack 01-03-17 07:31 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
One of the most awaited movies of the year 2017.

TONGO 01-13-17 04:51 PM

https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...83222138023941

TONGO 01-16-17 02:02 PM

Hugh Jackman Reveals The Official Synopsis of Logan

http://www.quirkybyte.com/wp-content...main_logan.jpg

The Australian actor Hugh Jackman is very excited and emotional at the same time about playing Logan/Wolverine in the final standalone movie of the franchise directed by James Mangold. He has given over a decade of his life to this character, and have played it like a boss. He has been revered by both critics and fans for his masterful performances in successive X-Men and independent Wolverine movies.

Hugh Jackman recently said “I’m really really proud of this movie. I was really keen that I didn’t leave the party feeling like I could dance more. I think I’m pretty much danced out, and I had a great time. It’s been an unbelievable ride, but it feels right.”

http://www.quirkybyte.com/wp-content...17/01/a-11.jpg

It’s almost unimaginable to even think of any other actor besides Hugh Jackman to bring Wolverine character to life. In the last installment, we might see “berserker rage” of Wolverine in Logan. It’s a mental state when Wolverine turns absolutely crazy, goes on a rampage, without thinking about the moral consequences of the act.

http://www.quirkybyte.com/wp-content...17/01/b-13.jpg

It’s confirmed that his character is inspired by “Old Man Logan” story based on a dystopian future where villains finally prevailed after Wolverine was caught in a trap laid down by Mysterio.Previously, the antagonist character had been described as “a relentless, calculating and intense head of Security for a global enterprise who is set against Jackman’s clawed Wolverine/Logan hero”. Well, Boyd Holbrook(of Narcos fame) is a cyborg supervillain Donald Pierce who is running a unit of criminal cyborgs hell-bent on mutant’s blood.

http://www.quirkybyte.com/wp-content...017/01/c-6.jpg

The official synopsis of the movie Logan is as follows:

“In the near future, a weary Logan cares for an ailing Professor X in a hide out on the Mexican border. But Logan’s attempts to hide from the world and his legacy are upended when a young mutant arrives, being pursued by dark forces.”

The movie opens on March 3 directed by James Mangold starring Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Richard E. Grant, Boyd Holbrook, Stephan Merchant and DafneKeen.

http://www.quirkybyte.com/blog/2017/...ynopsis-logan/


After not having seen a movie in a theater for almost 2 years, I wonder if itll be Scorceses' Silence or Logan that will bring me in. Itll be one of the two.

Ill probably see them both back to back, same day. :yup:

One more tweet for the road....

https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...76465189564419

doubledenim 01-19-17 12:10 PM

RED BAND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTCMxNcKe7ARED BAND

This trailer cut makes the movie look a lot better than the first one. I still don't know if this ranks as a $10-$12 experience.

The Last of Us wasn't groundbreaking in terms of a little girl and her guardian, but this seems inspired by the likes of.




The Rodent 01-19-17 12:18 PM

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Directed though by the same guy as The Wolverine?
So there...

SeeingisBelieving 01-19-17 05:31 PM

Another good trailer, but

WARNING: spoilers below
I can't buy into Charles saying – what is it – "and I'm ****ing ninety"? It sounds out of character, but it also sounds off, like Patrick Stewart hasn't put enough humour; or, conversely, impatience, behind it. It could also be that the weak voice he's doing is undermining that line working properly.

Iroquois 01-19-17 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1629940)
Directed though by the same guy as The Wolverine?
So there...
Also the guy who did Cop Land.

I feel like I need to give The Wolverine another chance, when I first watched it I was running the X-Men series so that they all kind of blurred together. At least it feels like something I want to watch again, which is more than I can say for the likes of Origins or The Last Stand.

The Rodent 01-20-17 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1630200)
Also the guy who did Cop Land.

I feel like I need to give The Wolverine another chance, when I first watched it I was running the X-Men series so that they all kind of blurred together. At least it feels like something I want to watch again, which is more than I can say for the likes of Origins or The Last Stand.


I forgot about Cop Land. Decent movie.
Checking my notes I rated it at 94% when I reviewed it.


The Wolverine is definitely the best of the series imo if you don't count Deadpool.
Deadpool is a totally different level but yeah, out of the mainstream X-Men films, The Wolverine is by far and away the strongest. They should have had Mangold direct all of the movies.


There's probably only one movie of his I didn't like which was the remake of 3:10 To Yuma.

MovieMeditation 01-20-17 04:59 AM

My problem with The Wolverine is towards the end. It gets too bloated, messy and typical CG action affair. It looks like studio interference to me... because Mangold created a decent enough kind of drama with good focus on the character of Logan. But it just didn't quite pull it off... so, looking at the R-rated no-xmen-in-title deserted and drama-heavy upcoming Logan, it looks like Mangold got the freedom he wanted. I hope so.

doubledenim 01-20-17 10:39 AM

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Unless I missed something, all of the press junkets for Logan with RR and HJ seem to point to a Deadpool / Wolverine film happening.

The Rodent 01-20-17 11:14 AM

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Yeah the two of them were hinting at Pierce Brosnan playing Cable as well.

TONGO 01-20-17 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1630381)
Yeah the two of them were hinting at Pierce Brosnan playing Cable as well.
Pierse Brosnan? Cable would be perfect for Jeffrey Dead Morgan. imo

Yeah The Wolverine was ok, but the Deadpool-thingy at the end destroyed the film for me. Im hopeful this will deliver, because everything Ive seen, and not seen (super explosions for the sake of), makes me feel like it can.

Jackman said this was gonna be his last Wolvie performance, then Ryan Reynolds Deadpool hit big, and RR has been pushing for the two to star together again. Not impossible, but Id be surprised if Hugh Jackmans already commiting to another Wolverine performance.

The Rodent 01-20-17 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 1630401)
Yeah The Wolverine was ok, but the Deadpool-thingy at the end destroyed the film for me.


You're thinking of Origins: Wolverine which introduced the lame version of Deadpool that Reynolds then retrofixed.


The Wolverine is the one in Japan when Logan loses his powers.

TONGO 01-20-17 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1630403)
You're thinking of Origins: Wolverine which introduced the lame version of Deadpool that Reynolds then retrofixed.


The Wolverine is the one in Japan when Logan loses his powers.
Aw hell! :rolleyes: That sucks! That movie absolutely butchered the Wolverine Limited Series it was based off of. It fell apart in the second half loudly.

My enthusiasm is less than it was. :(

The Rodent 01-20-17 12:28 PM

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Really? I found it to be the best of all the main X films.


Tao Okamoto and Rila Fukushima are also mint.

doubledenim 01-20-17 02:46 PM

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I think they have a handshake deal or more. There are too many Reynolds and Jackman public displays of affection popping up right now for no good reason.

I would wager a small sum that there is a Deadpool end credit scene on Logan.

Larry 01-20-17 08:56 PM

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I wish jackman gave up the role after the first spin off farce. He's a good actor as seen recently in Prisoners. But no, money talks. He's taken the check time and time again with these poor movies. I'm predicting this one will be no better then the last which for some reason was celebrated.

Iroquois 01-20-17 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1630457)
I think they have a handshake deal or more. There are too many Reynolds and Jackman public displays of affection popping up right now for no good reason.

I would wager a small sum that there is a Deadpool end credit scene on Logan.
I'd hope not. If the marketing is to be believed, then the tone of Logan is about as far removed from the tone of Deadpool as possible. For them to set up a bittersweet swansong for Wolverine and Professor X only to drop a wisecracking Deadpool into the proceedings (even within an end credit scene) would be a serious misstep that admittedly wouldn't be totally unprecedented for the X-Men franchise but which I'd rather didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Larry (Post 1630584)
I wish jackman gave up the role after the first spin off farce. He's a good actor as seen recently in Prisoners. But no, money talks. He's taken the check time and time again with these poor movies. I'm predicting this one will be no better then the last which for some reason was celebrated.
In fairness, a dude has to eat.

TheUsualSuspect 01-20-17 10:17 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
If he is going to be in Deadpool, I'd rather him play Hugh Jackman than Wolverine.

Larry 01-20-17 11:21 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Iroquois, yes he needs to eat, by the look of him every 3 hours, protein shakes, no carbs after 4pm that sort of stuff. Still, I wonder what roles he turned down in place of wolverine. Now really, unless he has a substantial "older man career", he'll be remembered as Wolverine. Whether thats a good thing or bad is subjective.

Captain Steel 01-21-17 12:06 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
Will Wolverine ever be short like he's supposed to be?

doubledenim 01-21-17 12:09 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
Maybe you're right Iro. This could be FOX trying to fan the smell of Deadpool's success towards Logan.

Iroquois 01-21-17 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Larry (Post 1630658)
Iroquois, yes he needs to eat, by the look of him every 3 hours, protein shakes, no carbs after 4pm that sort of stuff. Still, I wonder what roles he turned down in place of wolverine. Now really, unless he has a substantial "older man career", he'll be remembered as Wolverine. Whether thats a good thing or bad is subjective.
Yeah, there's no telling what he's had to turn down in order to play Wolverine. On the other hand, looking at his IMDb suggests that he's still likely to do lighter roles anyway - for every serious acclaimed film like Prisoners or The Prestige, he's got at least a couple of movies like Pan or Chappie to go with it.

Larry 01-21-17 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1630673)
Originally Posted by Larry (Post 1630658)
Iroquois, yes he needs to eat, by the look of him every 3 hours, protein shakes, no carbs after 4pm that sort of stuff. Still, I wonder what roles he turned down in place of wolverine. Now really, unless he has a substantial "older man career", he'll be remembered as Wolverine. Whether thats a good thing or bad is subjective.
Yeah, there's no telling what he's had to turn down in order to play Wolverine. On the other hand, looking at his IMDb suggests that he's still likely to do lighter roles anyway - for every serious acclaimed film like Prisoners or The Prestige, he's got at least a couple of movies like Pan or Chappie to go with it.
Good point.

Optimus 01-21-17 05:37 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
Looks awesome. Both trailers are great and i look forward to watching this at the cinema.

tatmmw2 01-23-17 01:47 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
There is more than one trailer?!! I didn't like the Johnny Cash song in the trailer, it totally fits and it was really cool but I'm just kind of overwhelmed by listening that song so much on the past month, I need to watch the new trailer!

Also quick question, this movie is not a sequel from the previous X-Men movies right? I mean, they changed the future, this is not the future Logan woke up in. This is an alternate dimension right? I think I heard that somewhere, just checking

The Rodent 01-23-17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by tatmmw2 (Post 1631692)

Also quick question, this movie is not a sequel from the previous X-Men movies right? I mean, they changed the future, this is not the future Logan woke up in. This is an alternate dimension right? I think I heard that somewhere, just checking


Yeah this is a sequel, based in the far future.
After Days Of Future Past, the timelines were altered so that Jean Grey, Scott Summers and so on are now alive again, and this film is a continuation of that timeline with Professor Xavier being super old and Logan is now succumbing to old age after living for about 150 years.

tatmmw2 01-23-17 01:52 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Well I be damn, another song I know? this isn't common at all. I love Way Down We Go!! I couldn't stop listening on the Orange is the New Black Season 4 Trailer and I can't stop know either! I mean, I just add this song to my playlist 5 minutes ago!!

tatmmw2 01-23-17 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1631694)
Yeah this is a sequel, based in the far future.
After Days Of Future Past, the timelines were altered so that Jean Grey, Scott Summers and so on are now alive again, and this film is a continuation of that timeline with Professor Xavier being super old and Logan is now succumbing to old age after living for about 150 years.
IT'S REALLY A CONTINUATION?!! that what I would have said 5 minutes ago, now I saw the trailer I get a little more. I thought for a second that this movie was in a post-apocalyptic scenerio or something, so I just saw that store they mugged I get its not.

I was refering to another dimension besides the 1st and 2nd that Logan was in the previous ones. But nope, it's a sequel. Another thing i was confused was seeing the Professor on somekind of madhouse, I guess I was wrong too (In the end of Days of The Future Past he didn't seem to be in a bad state)

I also thought the girl was Logan's child (is she?) or is she the X Weapon that is a girl and has 2 blades on each hand instead of 3 and in the foot too?

The Rodent 01-23-17 02:01 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Spoilers:


Laura, the girl, is Laura Kinney...
The girl in the film is based on the X-23 clone of Logan from the Weapon X Program that created Wolverine's adamantium skeleton.
She's basically a new weapon, but has ended up with Logan as a father figure and Xavier as a sort of grandfather figure.

tatmmw2 01-23-17 02:13 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
How is that a spoiler? The movie isn't out yet :p

The Rodent 01-23-17 02:20 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
They've not technically said in full that it's her.

The Rodent 01-23-17 02:25 PM

Ok... here's the Timelines for X-Men:




Timeline 1:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981)
  • X-Men (2000)
  • X2 (2003)
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
  • The Wolverine (2013)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) They Go Back To 1973 And Change The Past Which Causes Timeline 2

    Timeline 2:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (1973 sequence) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981) - Now Doesn’t Happen In The Way Depicted, Although Wolverine Still Ends Up In The Weapon-X Program
  • X-Men: Apocalypse (1983) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men (2000) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X2 (2003) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - Now Doesn’t Happen, Jean Grey and Scott Summers Are Alive, Jean Grey Has Already Embraced Phoenix In Apocalypse In 1983
  • The Wolverine (2013) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • Deadpool (2016) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) - Now Doesn’t Happen
  • Logan (well after 2023) - Because the 1973 Sequence Of DOFP Took Place, It Means The 2023 DOFP Sequence Never Happens, Which Allows For This Movie To Take Place After 2023

tatmmw2 01-23-17 02:32 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Interesting! Still I don't get why Origins is different, OHH Striker! right, they were with him on 1973. And Deadpool was because of 1983 I think, they vacuum all the bullets Logan received, so they had a lot of his blood to insert immortal cells on Ryan maybe?

tatmmw2 01-23-17 02:34 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
I understand they get the year with Logan's age but still, why they assume LOGAN is not on a different timeline?

The Rodent 01-23-17 02:38 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Well, if Wade is around in 1981 in Origins, fighting Wolverine and Sabretooth on that big chimney, then he can't be around in 2016 for Deadpool... which means that X-Men Origins: Wolverine couldn't have taken place.
Wolverine still ends up in the program to get his adamantium skeleton, but Origins technically doesn't happen in the way that the movie suggests.


The new film Logan is in timeline 2 because of DOFP retconning the timelines in 1973.

tatmmw2 01-23-17 02:45 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Yep, I was just suggesting something crazy with the LOGAN movie :p. And you are right!! I forgot Wade was in Origins too! Everyone likes to pretend that never happened :p Wait does that mean Wade is at least 50 years old? Also I totally forgot his name Wade! I google it up and I say YEAH HIS NAME IS RYAN and that is the name of the actor :facepalm:

Also here is HISHE's Deadpool leaving the old Deadpool on the villain's pub (ignore Captian America, I don't get what's he doing there):
https://575717b777ff8d928c6b-704c46a....jpg?bg=644F4D

The Rodent 01-23-17 02:47 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Joker is in that pic too :laugh:

TheUsualSuspect 01-23-17 03:10 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Interesting timelines there Rodent.

I wouldn't bother including Deadpool as I believe that to be completely separate.

As for X2 still happening, sure, but not the entire thing. Remember Jean Grey "dies" at the end of X2, which releases the Phoenix. If she already has this under control, the ending to X2 would be different.

Even without the timeline separation, the continuity is STILL terrible in these movies. They still need to explain, to me, how Wolverine has adamantium in DOFP.

The Rodent 01-23-17 03:14 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
That was the one of two huge questions for me as well, TUS.


Something from Origins has to take place, after all, Logan ends up being found at the end of DOFP... although, Striker is actually Mystique in disguise, which doesn't make sense.


The other big question... how is Xavier still alive at the end of The Wolverine and then in the future sequences in DOFP?
He died half way through X3 :rotfl:

tatmmw2 01-23-17 03:28 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Oh I know that!! It's really weird, I thought the same too. Appereantly there was an after credits on the third X-men movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVJDMxkyPbs

It seems he is his brother on a coma and when Charles died he wake up on that body, crazy!!

The Rodent 01-23-17 03:32 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
I forgot about that :D

TONGO 01-25-17 06:45 PM

Oh man, the timelines and continuations of the X-Films is as broken and confusing as the comics version now. :facepalm: :lol:

Well Im gonna still see it. It looks to finally be in the tone of what I was waiting for in a Wolvie installment. As a stand alone I hope it is good. Less "Pow" and more Power to the storyline I say.

Good signs, no super hero costumes, and Wolvies got a beard. Ask the Boston Red Sox if theres power in a beard. :yup:


Captain Steel 01-25-17 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1631713)
Ok... here's the Timelines for X-Men:



Timeline 1:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981)
  • X-Men (2000)
  • X2 (2003)
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
  • The Wolverine (2013)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) They Go Back To 1973 And Change The Past Which Causes Timeline 2

    Timeline 2:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (1973 sequence) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981) - Now Doesn’t Happen In The Way Depicted, Although Wolverine Still Ends Up In The Weapon-X Program
  • X-Men: Apocalypse (1983) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men (2000) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X2 (2003) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - Now Doesn’t Happen, Jean Grey and Scott Summers Are Alive, Jean Grey Has Already Embraced Phoenix In Apocalypse In 1983
  • The Wolverine (2013) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • Deadpool (2016) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) - Now Doesn’t Happen
  • Logan (well after 2023) - Because the 1973 Sequence Of DOFP Took Place, It Means The 2023 DOFP Sequence Never Happens, Which Allows For This Movie To Take Place After 2023
Heh! Just like in the comics - they made the whole thing un-followable by creating alternate splinter paradoxical time-travel timelines & concurrent counter-continuities (not to mention a plethora of alternate time-travel "I can't actually exist because my mother died before I was even born!" characters). IMO, this makes it so that actual fans of the franchise stop caring because the whole thing is a convoluted mess! (Just like the comics did - beginning in the late 80's.)

Here's how I would have handled the X-Men movies - start with the original team while introducing some future members (such as... who else? Wolverine). Then in sequels introduce the "New" X-Men and stop before doing any time-travel stories (they mess everything up - they ruined the Lost In Space movie, they ruined the Star Trek "prequels", etc.) If they wanted to do "Days of Future Past" then do it like the comics - a two-issue story that was wrapped up with the (then) current continuity in tact.

As a once fan of X-Men (ala the Claremont / Byrne / Austin era)... I'm just venting. :)

TheUsualSuspect 01-26-17 07:46 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/log...ter-3-main.jpg

chriswyattfilm 02-06-17 05:38 PM

So far, its looking pretty good. I'm hoping for the best.

TONGO 02-14-17 01:26 PM

https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...03789425324032

Optimus 02-14-17 01:28 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Can't wait for this now.

Northpoint 02-19-17 10:45 PM

97% over on RT! Who saw THAT coming?

This really may well be one of the best ever.

Sarge 02-20-17 05:04 AM

Heard nothing but good things about this. Finally they seem to have made a proper Wolverine film. :cool:

Slam 02-20-17 02:38 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
I'm hoping the Professor is just a delusion from all those blows to the head Logan has recieved over the years.

If I'm right or wrong don't tell me.

doubledenim 02-20-17 02:45 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
It is crazy to see how well reviewed this thing is. I may have to breakdown and grudge-watch this.

doubledenim 02-21-17 03:12 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Logan reportedly to feature post-credits scene. Featuring Deadpool (my 2 cents).

thePrimeOne 02-21-17 05:01 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Nice. Can't wait to see this

TJLamb0518 02-21-17 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by thePrimeOne (Post 1652859)
Nice. Can't wait to see this
This bodes well. Hopefully, a GOOD movie going summer coming up. Hoping Kong, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Guardians, The Mummy and War On The Planet Of The Apes keep up some sort of satisfaction level.

TONGO 03-01-17 07:39 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...50887090708481

MovieMad16 03-01-17 07:31 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Saw it tonight.

Really good, by far the darkest superhero film I've seen. But not the best.

Hugh Jackman gives a great performance, as does Patrick Stewart. Dafnee Kean also very good.

There are some surprises and is overall a much sadder grimmer story than usual X Men instalments.

Thank you Hugh, and Thank you Wolverine (2000-2017)

Hitchcockian97 03-02-17 08:17 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
I was not a fan of the previous Wolverine standalone movies, even though the last one was better than Origins. This seems promising, though. Some reviews have been positive, and the fact that it seemingly wants to emulate kind of a western/drama feel looks interesting. I will give it a watch, at least.

MovieMeditation 03-02-17 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by doubledenim (Post 1652761)
Logan reportedly to feature post-credits scene. Featuring Deadpool (my 2 cents).
There is no post credits scene.

Now y'all can go pee without missing anything. :up:

doubledenim 03-02-17 11:04 AM

Re: LOGAN
 
F' it. I'm staying home.

Sarge 03-02-17 12:07 PM

I really enjoyed this film. Found every other 'Marvel' based film bang average except maybe 'Deadpool' and 'Civil war' which were better.

This is like X men for grown ups.

Saunch 03-02-17 12:28 PM

Re: LOGAN
 
Can't remember the last time I was ecxited for an X-Men movie (this year I'm also excited for a Thor movie so there's lots of surprises).

I think I'll have to wait till Sunday or Monday to see this. Time to dodge annoying text messages again!

Doolallyfrank 03-02-17 01:58 PM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1631713)
Ok... here's the Timelines for X-Men:




Timeline 1:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981)
  • X-Men (2000)
  • X2 (2003)
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
  • The Wolverine (2013)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) They Go Back To 1973 And Change The Past Which Causes Timeline 2

    Timeline 2:
  • X-Men: First Class (1962)
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (1973 sequence) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1981) - Now Doesn’t Happen In The Way Depicted, Although Wolverine Still Ends Up In The Weapon-X Program
  • X-Men: Apocalypse (1983) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men (2000) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X2 (2003) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - Now Doesn’t Happen, Jean Grey and Scott Summers Are Alive, Jean Grey Has Already Embraced Phoenix In Apocalypse In 1983
  • The Wolverine (2013) - Possibly Still Takes Place
  • Deadpool (2016) - NEW SEQUENCE, Didn’t Take Place In Timeline 1
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past (2023 sequence) - Now Doesn’t Happen
  • Logan (well after 2023) - Because the 1973 Sequence Of DOFP Took Place, It Means The 2023 DOFP Sequence Never Happens, Which Allows For This Movie To Take Place After 2023
You can't have the last stand in the same timeline as days of future past, Xavier was disintegrated or whatever you wanna call that nonsense, the last stand shouldn't be in any timeline

The reviews of Logan are OTT for me, it was good but there are 4 better X-Men films at least

Definitely better than the Wolverine though


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