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banality 08-23-16 01:30 PM

BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 

3 days after Blonde, the BBC release their 21st century list. And interestingly it only has 4 best picture award winners.

check it

Topsy 08-23-16 01:40 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
when i saw requiem for a dream at 100 i knew i wouldnt agree with this list :lol:

CiCi 08-23-16 01:42 PM

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4. Spirited Away
2. In the Mood For Love

Oh, I'm glad to be British :love:

Mr Minio 08-23-16 02:44 PM

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Decent list.

MovieMeditation 08-23-16 02:58 PM

Pretty good list. Wouldn't know through and through though since I've only seen 60 out of the 100.

Daniel M 08-23-16 03:13 PM

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Pretty cool list. Like the BBC's 100 best American film ones, it's probably one of the best of its kind, it seems pretty diverse in terms of nationalities and types of film. Haven't seen anywhere near as much as I should have though.

Thursday Next 08-24-16 09:33 AM

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Interesting. Seen 69 of those. Pixar and The Coens seem to be a bit over-represented.

Iroquois 08-24-16 09:42 AM

Seen 70 out of 100 as of writing. At least I like most of the ones I've seen and can understand some of the choices I don't like (with the obvious one being Spring Breakers, which is probably the biggest surprise on the list).

Originally Posted by banality (Post 1566232)
And interestingly it only has 4 best picture award winners.
Understandable, though. Who's going to bat for The King's Speech or A Beautiful Mind?

VMovie 08-24-16 09:52 AM

Who is a fan of documentary. I like Walking with Dinosaurs, Walking with Beasts, and Walking with Monsters.

johnbarrymore2013 08-24-16 09:55 AM

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It's an okay list, doesn't meet to my taste but I can see the quality and reasoning behind the choices.

I'm very pleased to see Zodiac quite high on the list, but I was surprised to see Inside Llewyn Davis so far up. I wouldn't rank it in the top 5 of the Coen brother movies.

Iroquois 08-24-16 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by johnbarrymore2013 (Post 1566648)
It's an okay list, doesn't meet to my taste but I can see the quality and reasoning behind the choices.

I'm very pleased to see Zodiac quite high on the list, but I was surprised to see Inside Llewyn Davis so far up. I wouldn't rank it in the top 5 of the Coen brother movies.
Well, yeah, it's a 21st-century list. It's definitely in the top 5 post-2000 Coens, at least.

johnbarrymore2013 08-24-16 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1566653)
Well, yeah, it's a 21st-century list. It's definitely in the top 5 post-2000 Coens, at least.
Yeah, I guess you're right about that.

Camo 08-24-16 10:45 AM

Only seen 51. Pretty good list, nothing surprising really but i like the variety. Glad to see A Serious Man included. I really love that film even though most think of it as one of the Coens weakest so glad to see it get some recognition.

Iroquois 08-24-16 10:47 AM

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"Most think of it as the Coens' weakest" sums up half the films they've ever made.

banality 08-24-16 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1566659)
Only seen 51. Pretty good list, nothing surprising really but i like the variety. Glad to see A Serious Man included. I really love that film even though most think of it as one of the Coens weakest so glad to see it get some recognition.
A Serious Man is better than No Country imo

Camo 08-24-16 10:47 AM

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Agreed.

Iroquois 08-24-16 10:49 AM

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Them's fighting words, fellas (though they are both good).

johnbarrymore2013 08-24-16 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by banality (Post 1566661)
A Serious Man is better than No Country imo
Definitely.

MovieMeditation 08-24-16 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by banality (Post 1566661)
A Serious Man is better than No Country imo
*goes to get the air pistol*

Tugg 08-24-16 12:16 PM

"Mulholland Drive" has officially gone full blown mainstream. I'm excited though wonder how many years or decades until we see real backlash and not just sporadic mehs.

the samoan lawyer 08-24-16 12:40 PM

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Seen 75. Glad to see Haneke featured and also, Shame should be a lot higher!

Swan 08-24-16 12:49 PM

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So list-y it's not even funn-y.

banality 08-24-16 12:50 PM

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Shame should be higher, I think they should bump HHH for Broken Flowers or Drive, and Inglorious Basterds for Django. And it should have at least one Errol Morris film.

Swan 08-24-16 12:51 PM

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It's not great.

Daniel M 08-24-16 01:03 PM

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Shame is the worst film on the list ;)

Swan 08-24-16 01:04 PM

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You are funny, Daniel! Good joke!

Citizen Rules 08-24-16 01:06 PM

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It looks like a good solid list, but I see a couple of candidates for my Top 100 Worst Movies list...any guesses which ones?

Swan 08-24-16 01:08 PM

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Oh wait, Spring Breakers is on the list. My respect for it just got a bit better.

Daniel M 08-24-16 01:09 PM

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Spring Breakers is the second worst film on the list :D

Miss Vicky 08-24-16 01:09 PM

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I love that Springbreakers made the list and that Mad Max: Fury Road is #19. Boo to the haters of both those movies.

Citizen Rules 08-24-16 01:10 PM

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Luckily I've never seen Spring Breakers.

Swan 08-24-16 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Daniel M (Post 1566746)
Spring Breakers is the second worst film on the list :D
Didn't you give it a higher rating than Requiem for a Dream? I remember you hated that one.

Miss Vicky 08-24-16 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1566748)
Luckily I've never seen Spring Breakers.
I enjoyed it. :shrug:

I also probably ruffled a few feathers when I rated it higher than Citizen Kane in the same Movie Tab post.

Swan 08-24-16 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 1566750)
I enjoyed it. :shrug:
As you should.

Bring out the GIF, Miss Vicky!

Daniel M 08-24-16 01:12 PM

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I missed that Requiem for a Dream was on there. Probably worse than Shame and Spring Breakers, yeah.

Camo 08-24-16 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1566742)
It looks like a good solid list, but I see a couple of candidates for my Top 100 Worst Movies list...any guesses which ones?
A.I

Swan 08-24-16 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1566753)
A.I
That's what I was thinking.

Miss Vicky 08-24-16 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 1566751)
As you should.

Bring out the GIF, Miss Vicky!
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walt...ngbreakers.gif

Camo 08-24-16 01:16 PM

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Also Inception is clearly the worst film on the list.

Friendly Mushroom! 08-24-16 01:19 PM

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No its Grand Budapest hotel. :)

I only seen 19 out of all of them btw.

Camo 08-24-16 01:21 PM

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51>19 means its Inception.

Citizen Rules 08-24-16 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1566753)
A.I
Bingo! I even like Spielberg too, but not A.I.:cool:

Miss Vicky 08-24-16 01:25 PM

I've seen these:

100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
98. Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
74. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
25. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

Quite a few great films there, also several that I either didn't care for or hated.

Sunomis 08-24-16 02:23 PM

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I can't count. Sometimes I've seen 51, some other times just 49, but you get the idea : I'm half a film geek.

I'm a bit dissapointed that no Herzog movie made in onto the list. I think Bad Lieutenant and Into the Abyss are far better than many movies on the list. But that's just an opinion.

Kaplan 08-24-16 04:35 PM

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I've seen 64. I hated Only Lovers Left Alive.

Frightened Inmate No. 2 08-24-16 05:09 PM

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wow they did it, they got the list exactly right!

banality 08-24-16 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Frightened Inmate No. 2 (Post 1566839)
wow they did it, they got the list exactly right!
what are the chances !

NexusSix 08-25-16 12:32 AM

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Better than any list from Empire, that's for sure.

Derek Vinyard 08-25-16 05:08 AM

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26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)

:up::up::up:

but Requiem For A Dream only #100 is a shame.

BlueLion 08-25-16 07:40 AM

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Seen about 73, lol @ Boyhood and Shame should be a lot higher.

johnbarrymore2013 08-25-16 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Derek Vinyard (Post 1567112)
26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)

:up::up::up:

but Requiem For A Dream only #100 is a shame.
I absolutely love Zodiac.

Camo 08-25-16 09:27 AM

Here's the full list, mostly so i don't keep having to click on the link. One i've seen in bold:

100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
99. The Gleaners and I (Agnès Varda, 2000)
98. Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
97. White Material (Claire Denis, 2009)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)

92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
91. The Secret in Their Eyes (Juan José Campanella, 2009)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
86. Far From Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)

80. The Return (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2003)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)

77. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
76. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
74. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)

72. Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch, 2013)
71. Tabu (Miguel Gomes, 2012)
70. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
69. Carol (Todd Haynes, 2015)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)

66. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
65. Fish Tank (Andrea Arnold, 2009)
64. The Great Beauty (Paolo Sorrentino, 2013)

63. The Turin Horse (Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky, 2011)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
61. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)

60. Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
58. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
56. Werckmeister Harmonies (Béla Tarr, director; Ágnes Hranitzky, co-director, 2000)
55. Ida (Paweł Pawlikowski, 2013)
54. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
52. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
50. The Assassin (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 2015)
49. Goodbye to Language (Jean-Luc Godard, 2014)
48. Brooklyn (John Crowley, 2015)
47. Leviathan (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2014)
46. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
45. Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
43. Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
42. Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)

40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
37. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2010)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
34. Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
32. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)

31. Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan, 2011)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
28. Talk to Her (Pedro Almodóvar, 2002)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)

26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002) (seen all but the first 20 minutes of this, won't count it though)
25. ​Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)

23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)

20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)

11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)

8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)

2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

Guaporense 08-25-16 07:53 PM

BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201...greatest-films

Top 20:

20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

The 177 critics interviewed really liked Fury Road.

jal90 08-26-16 11:37 PM

Seen 56. The list is... fine? Lots of missing titles, but nothing that surprises me. At first I thought that US films were overrepresented, till I made my own list and found that it was 50% American movies :D. If there's something that could be said against this, is that it is too predictable, it is mostly composed of Oscar and big festival winners, movies that at the time were a big hit among critics. And I wonder if they just never change their opinions over the years, revisiting movies and etc. The list is kind of... too set in stone. The top2 are in their way to become the Citizen Kane and Vertigo of the 21st Century, in how unanimously voted and revered they are. They have become a canon that seems too solidified, and damn, it's too soon for this.

Also, my own list (it's on Letterboxd) has 33 animated films. This one has 5. Four Pixars and Spirited away (its 4th position is by far the best thing of the list). That's a reasonably high amount for a list of this sort, and in a way this is good because it shows that critics are starting to become aware of the width and possibilities of this medium, but on the other hand it is still a minimal representation that should start growing. Animation has diversified a lot in the current century. Pixar and Ghibli have been ahead for a while but there are other studios, styles and filmographies that are rising or already consolidated. I mean, for example, an animated film was just recently selected to represent Switzerland in the Academy Awards, after winning in Annecy and being screened in Cannes. Switzerland! What kind of tradition in animated films does this country have? This shows how much has this medium grown in recent years, and I can't help but think that it's still in the process of getting a solidified recognition among critics.

Iroquois 08-27-16 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by jal90 (Post 1568127)
Seen 56. The list is... fine? Lots of missing titles, but nothing that surprises me. At first I thought that US films were overrepresented, till I made my own list and found that it was 50% American movies :D. If there's something that could be said against this, is that it is too predictable, it is mostly composed of Oscar and big festival winners, movies that at the time were a big hit among critics. And I wonder if they just never change their opinions over the years, revisiting movies and etc. The list is kind of... too set in stone. The top2 are in their way to become the Citizen Kane and Vertigo of the 21st Century, in how unanimously voted and revered they are. They have become a canon that seems too solidified, and damn, it's too soon for this.

Also, my own list (it's on Letterboxd) has 33 animated films. This one has 5. Four Pixars and Spirited away (its 4th position is by far the best thing of the list). That's a reasonably high amount for a list of this sort, and in a way this is good because it shows that critics are starting to become aware of the width and possibilities of this medium, but on the other hand it is still a minimal representation that should start growing. Animation has diversified a lot in the current century. Pixar and Ghibli have been ahead for a while but there are other studios, styles and filmographies that are rising or already consolidated. I mean, for example, an animated film was just recently selected to represent Switzerland in the Academy Awards, after winning in Annecy and being screened in Cannes. Switzerland! What kind of tradition in animated films does this country have? This shows how much has this medium grown in recent years, and I can't help but think that it's still in the process of getting a solidified recognition among critics.
I never got the impression that the list was predictable, but that's probably because I was reading it without actually trying to guess what would come up next. I mean, it's a poll - the idea is to come to as close a consensus as possible. Hell, Spring Breakers made the list, after all. In any case, I can't begrudge the inclusion of older films that were successes "at the time". if anything, I think it's interesting to see what older picks make the list as they've actually had the chance to age well first and the longest amount of time to win people over (which is harder to figure out with the newer entries - if they redo this list in fifteen years' time, it'll be interesting to see what holds up from the last couple of years). Devin Faraci even said that he held off on voting for brand-new films like Mad Max: Fury Road simply because he figured that there should be a sort of cooling-off period just to make sure it can hold up.

As for the animated films - yeah, fair point, I guess. The picks on this list are still the ones that critics happen to agree on the most, so it's unsurprising that they end up being safe/boring choices like Pixar or Ghibli. It's also worth noting that this is an international list, which I think would explain why straightforward, visually-driven movies like Ratatouille and WALL-E would get more nods. This is why complaining that certain films are "missing" is kind of meaningless.

jal90 08-28-16 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1568202)
I never got the impression that the list was predictable, but that's probably because I was reading it without actually trying to guess what would come up next. I mean, it's a poll - the idea is to come to as close a consensus as possible. Hell, Spring Breakers made the list, after all.
Precisely, Spring Breakers was a film I expected. Polarizing as it is, the way the top lists are counted almost guarantees its presence here. Not every critic loves it, but those who do are huge fans of it. It was the second choice for the year in Cahiers and I've heard a lot of praise from many other places. It even seems to have earned a solid fanbase that keeps bringing it up.

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1568202)
In any case, I can't begrudge the inclusion of older films that were successes "at the time". if anything, I think it's interesting to see what older picks make the list as they've actually had the chance to age well first and the longest amount of time to win people over (which is harder to figure out with the newer entries - if they redo this list in fifteen years' time, it'll be interesting to see what holds up from the last couple of years). Devin Faraci even said that he held off on voting for brand-new films like Mad Max: Fury Road simply because he figured that there should be a sort of cooling-off period just to make sure it can hold up.
Well, Mad Max ended up 19th on the list :D

The problem I perceive with this list actually has to do with the implications of this lack of surprising additions; when I say that the list is predictable, I mean that most if not all of the titles were in one way or the other a big hit. Most of them were Oscar contenders, won some big festival, and were talked about for months. And expected as it is, it is kind of off-putting. It gives a vibe about critics that they tend to gravitate towards the same judgements over time. I mean, I always imagine the job of a critic to be one that makes them judge and reconsider stuff all the time, since they are constantly exposed to new films that may very well change their point of view about the artform, and for that reason it is sort of disappointing to me that the same titles that were big in, say, 2005 are similarly big in 2016 without any apparent reconsideration.

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1568202)
As for the animated films - yeah, fair point, I guess. The picks on this list are still the ones that critics happen to agree on the most, so it's unsurprising that they end up being safe/boring choices like Pixar or Ghibli. It's also worth noting that this is an international list, which I think would explain why straightforward, visually-driven movies like Ratatouille and WALL-E would get more nods. This is why complaining that certain films are "missing" is kind of meaningless.
I don't mean complaining, which I agree it's meaningless and specially in a top list that has an above average consideration for animated films, but I think there is still a lot of work to do, we are probably in the good direction but it's not enough and it should keep growing. It's not like animated films lack critical acclaim: The tale of the Princess Kaguya, Mary and Max, It's such a beautiful day, Song of the sea, Anomalisa, Waltz with Bashir, to name a few of these movies that critics loved and praised, but for some reason, haven't trascended well enough for them to even be clear contenders in a top list. Maybe because they actually didn't like them that much, maybe because they are only seen and/or talked about by a minority. In the rare occasion when they compete in festivals with live action films, they are very rarely considered, and they are barely talked about. Whatever is the reason for this, I think it shows that there are still reservations among critics to fully accept and recognize the medium beyond certain comfort zones.

The Gunslinger45 08-29-16 12:51 AM

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Spring Breakers higher then The Wolf of Wall Street? A POX ON THIS LIST!

Iroquois 08-29-16 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by jal90 (Post 1568903)
Precisely, Spring Breakers was a film I expected. Polarizing as it is, the way the top lists are counted almost guarantees its presence here. Not every critic loves it, but those who do are huge fans of it. It was the second choice for the year in Cahiers and I've heard a lot of praise from many other places. It even seems to have earned a solid fanbase that keeps bringing it up.
I had heard that it had earned a sort of cult following but I didn't think that that'd be enough to not only put it on a professional critics' list but over so many other more obviously "reputable" films.

Well, Mad Max ended up 19th on the list :D

The problem I perceive with this list actually has to do with the implications of this lack of surprising additions; when I say that the list is predictable, I mean that most if not all of the titles were in one way or the other a big hit. Most of them were Oscar contenders, won some big festival, and were talked about for months. And expected as it is, it is kind of off-putting. It gives a vibe about critics that they tend to gravitate towards the same judgements over time. I mean, I always imagine the job of a critic to be one that makes them judge and reconsider stuff all the time, since they are constantly exposed to new films that may very well change their point of view about the artform, and for that reason it is sort of disappointing to me that the same titles that were big in, say, 2005 are similarly big in 2016 without any apparent reconsideration.
Yeah, to each their own and all that, though I can understand why some would prefer to lean towards films that they know hold up rather than grant it to some new movie that may not hold up. This is borne out by Boyhood being one of the more controversial choices on the list since many detractors say that it's only noteworthy for its "gimmick". Also, how apparent is the reconsideration in each of these cases? Unless you were going to go through and research every single critic's history to see if they always liked a movie or started to like/dislike it years later, then I'm not sure how much stagnation you can infer from the list. I guess that might explain why Moulin Rouge! would crack the list, at least.

I don't mean complaining, which I agree it's meaningless and specially in a top list that has an above average consideration for animated films, but I think there is still a lot of work to do, we are probably in the good direction but it's not enough and it should keep growing. It's not like animated films lack critical acclaim: The tale of the Princess Kaguya, Mary and Max, It's such a beautiful day, Song of the sea, Anomalisa, Waltz with Bashir, to name a few of these movies that critics loved and praised, but for some reason, haven't trascended well enough for them to even be clear contenders in a top list. Maybe because they actually didn't like them that much, maybe because they are only seen and/or talked about by a minority. In the rare occasion when they compete in festivals with live action films, they are very rarely considered, and they are barely talked about. Whatever is the reason for this, I think it shows that there are still reservations among critics to fully accept and recognize the medium beyond certain comfort zones.
You'll have to excuse me, there's just too many people on the Internet who see ranked best-of lists and rather vocally take issue with the fact that the persons involved with the list didn't include certain movies, which is some real forest-for-the-trees kind of thinking. But yeah, it's disappointing how some of these widely-acclaimed films don't quite have that level of support behind them, though like I said before they may not translate to every critic liking them or liking them enough to put in a top ten. It's especially weird considering how many lesser-known live-action titles were on this list (I had not heard of White Material before this list, for instance) but the animated ones on this list do feel like "easy" choices. It's Such A Beautiful Day would probably crack my own top 10 of the century so far, but I know its appeal is limited.

Originally Posted by The Gunslinger45 (Post 1569029)
Spring Breakers higher then The Wolf of Wall Street? A POX ON THIS LIST!
Ah, yes, one movie about the vacuous hedonism at the heart of the American dream got ranked higher than another movie about the vacuous hedonism at the heart of the American dream. Truly cause for outrage.

Horroist 08-29-16 06:15 AM

100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
99. The Gleaners and I (Agnès Varda, 2000)
98. Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
97. White Material (Claire Denis, 2009)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)

92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
91. The Secret in Their Eyes (Juan José Campanella, 2009)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
86. Far From Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)

80. The Return (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2003)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
77. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
76. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
74. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
72. Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch, 2013)
71. Tabu (Miguel Gomes, 2012)
70. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
69. Carol (Todd Haynes, 2015)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)

66. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
65. Fish Tank (Andrea Arnold, 2009)
64. The Great Beauty (Paolo Sorrentino, 2013)
63. The Turin Horse (Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky, 2011)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
61. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
60. Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
58. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
56. Werckmeister Harmonies (Béla Tarr, director; Ágnes Hranitzky, co-director, 2000)
55. Ida (Paweł Pawlikowski, 2013)
54. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
52. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
50. The Assassin (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 2015)
49. Goodbye to Language (Jean-Luc Godard, 2014)
48. Brooklyn (John Crowley, 2015)
47. Leviathan (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2014)
46. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
45. Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
43. Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
42. Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)

40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
37. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2010)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
34. Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
32. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)
31. Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan, 2011)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
28. Talk to Her (Pedro Almodóvar, 2002)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)

26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
25. ​Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)

17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)

11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)

8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)

2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

Total: 46/100 :(

Iroquois 08-29-16 06:35 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I'll just list the ones I haven't seen yet...

100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
99. The Gleaners and I (Agnès Varda, 2000)
98. Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
97. White Material (Claire Denis, 2009)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)
80. The Return (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2003)
77. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
71. Tabu (Miguel Gomes, 2012)
70. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
66. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
65. Fish Tank (Andrea Arnold, 2009)
63. The Turin Horse (Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky, 2011)
60. Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
58. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
56. Werckmeister Harmonies (Béla Tarr, director; Ágnes Hranitzky, co-director, 2000)
52. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
50. The Assassin (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 2015)
49. Goodbye to Language (Jean-Luc Godard, 2014)
47. Leviathan (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2014)
46. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
34. Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
28. Talk to Her (Pedro Almodóvar, 2002)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)

mark f 08-29-16 07:14 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Haven't seen:
100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)

Chypmunk 08-29-16 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by mark f (Post 1569150)
Haven't seen:
100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
Slacker :p

cricket 08-29-16 08:10 AM

Seen 54

neiba 08-29-16 04:25 PM

Re: BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
I have seen only 41 of these movies. I'm curious about most of them!

Iroquois 08-30-16 05:30 AM

Re: BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
We already have a thread.

Camo 08-30-16 05:33 AM

Re: BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
Yeah. I pointed that out to Neiba last night when he started another thread for it. I posted the links for Banality's and Guap's to show that it was already made and he must have decided to post in Guap's instead of the one we had all been using.

neiba 08-30-16 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by mark f (Post 1569150)
Haven't seen:
100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
Tssss... Amateur! :p

Watch_Tower 08-30-16 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Guaporense (Post 1567449)
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201...greatest-films

Top 20:

20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

The 177 critics interviewed really liked Fury Road.
Thats a pretty good list. I still have to see Mulholland Drive and a few others (never going to watch Boyhood though, Linklater bores me) but I'm glad 'Blood and Fury Road are so well remembered. However, where the hell is The Dark Knight and The Departed? Not to mention at least one LOTR flick or a Bourne movie?

Edit: just realised theres more than 20 movies lol Still TDK and LOTR should be top 20.

Iroquois 08-30-16 07:31 AM

Re: BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
The Departed has no business being on a list like this.

Daniel M 08-30-16 08:00 AM

Re: BBC top 100 movies 21st century list
 
Everybody Wants Some!! > Boyhood

Camo 08-30-16 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Daniel M (Post 1569716)
Everybody Wants Some!! > Boyhood
Agreed. Also Before Midnight, Before Sunset, Tape > Boyhood

Of his 21st Century films i've seen. Maybe even School of Rock too. The only one i prefer Boyhood to of what i've seen is Bernie.

Daniel M 08-30-16 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1569721)
Agreed. Also Before Midnight, Before Sunset, Tape > Boyhood

Of his 21st Century films i've seen. Maybe even School of Rock too. The only one i prefer Boyhood to of what i've seen is Bernie.
Don't know. I do think it's great, just prefer Everybody Wants Some!!. Before Sunset maybe I'd put slightly ahead, or equal too it, not sure about Before Midnight, I actually forgot about that film when looking at the list, strange how it's not included.

Anyway, someone needs to merge these threads :p

Swan 08-30-16 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1569712)
The Departed has no business being on a list like this.
http://media3.giphy.com/media/Ph05xuYgrX5te/giphy.gif

seanc 08-30-16 12:05 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I have seen 70. Glad to see Margaret here and pretty high. Wish Lonnergan would direct film full time.

rauldc14 08-30-16 12:07 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Somewhere in the 30s. I'm a fricken slacker :p

Tugg 08-30-16 12:10 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
34 myself.

BlueLion 08-30-16 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Daniel M (Post 1569716)
Everybody Wants Some!! > Boyhood
any movie > Boyhood

honeykid 09-03-16 01:20 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Originally Posted by NexusSix (Post 1567054)
Better than any list from Empire, that's for sure.
Aren't most movie lists?

I've seen 20, with another 25 sat on the shelf unwatched. I don't know if I even liked half of those I've seen. Maybe if I was being generous?

Diehl40 09-07-16 10:40 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I've seen 16. I want to see many of the films on this list, and would be interested in any recommendations from this time period that others would recommend that are not on this list.

Iroquois 09-08-16 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by Diehl40 (Post 1575195)
I've seen 16. I want to see many of the films on this list, and would be interested in any recommendations from this time period that others would recommend that are not on this list.
Just so we can get an idea, which ones have you seen already and what did you think of them?

Sophia067 09-08-16 06:06 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Good list

ScarletLion 09-08-16 06:12 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
No Denis Villeneuve on this last makes it invalid.

Iroquois 09-08-16 06:30 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
How so?

nat666195 09-08-16 09:19 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1567182)
Here's the full list, mostly so i don't keep having to click on the link. One i've seen in bold:

100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
80. The Return (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2003)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
66. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
63. The Turin Horse (Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky, 2011)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
58. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)
25. ​Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)[/b]
These are the ones I've seen

ScarletLion 09-08-16 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1575295)
How so?
You can't take a list seriously that has WALL-E at #29 but no Denis Villeneuve movies.

jal90 09-08-16 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 1575348)
You can't take a list seriously that has WALL-E at #29 but no Denis Villeneuve movies.
Wall-E is the lesser of the problems there, though. Lost in translation is at #22. Now that's an issue.

Iroquois 09-08-16 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 1575348)
You can't take a list seriously that has WALL-E at #29 but no Denis Villeneuve movies.
Depends on your opinion of Villeneuve. I've seen four of his films so far and I'd only really consider Incendies and Sicario for this list (don't really rate Prisoners or Enemy too highly myself), but I'm not too burned-up that neither one made it. I can't really get too angry over aggregated lists just because they include a film I dislike or omit one I like - would I really be justified in saying that the list was worthless because it didn't include a single Edgar Wright movie? Most of these films are at least as respectable as anything that Villeneuve has ever done, so I'm not going to take it too seriously.

ScarletLion 09-08-16 11:06 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I don't think Edgar Wright and Villeneuve are on the same page as much as as I like Wright's films! For a bunch of top critics to not include a single Villeneuve movie on this list just strikes me as a massive oversight. He's one of the greatest Directors since the turn of the century.

Iroquois 09-08-16 09:25 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
That's your perception.

Diehl40 09-09-16 01:34 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I am a David Lynch fan and I don't see why they rated Mullholland drive at #1. I think there were better films, and i can't believe that any of Lynch's films would appeal to enough people to be rated #1.

Iroquois 09-09-16 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Diehl40 (Post 1575895)
I am a David Lynch fan and I don't see why they rated Mullholland drive at #1. I think there were better films, and i can't believe that any of Lynch's films would appeal to enough people to be rated #1.
Time to start believing, then.

It's worth noting that there isn't a points system in place either - whether a film was at one person's #1 or another person's #10, it still got two equally worthy votes. It seems like Mulholland Drive got put on more lists than any other film did, which resulted in it being ranked at #1. I probably wouldn't have put it at #1 on my list personally, but I can understand its appeal - it's sufficiently cinematic, unorthodox, and challenging in a way that guarantees it more resonance and staying power than something like, say, A Beautiful Mind.

Tugg 09-09-16 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Diehl40 (Post 1575895)
I am a David Lynch fan and I don't see why they rated Mullholland drive at #1. I think there were better films, and i can't believe that any of Lynch's films would appeal to enough people to be rated #1.
Some classics need time to be widely acknowledged. In this case it took 15 years. One might say that's haw far "Mulholland Drive" was ahead of it's time.

The Gunslinger45 09-09-16 10:13 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
I adore Lynch, and Mulholland Drive is my favorite film of his. Blue Velvet a very close second. I am happy it was placed so high. Though I can see why people can be shocked his movie took the number 1 spot.

Gideon58 09-09-16 11:17 AM

Interesting list...there are 32 films on the list that I have never even heard of. There were a couple of pleasant surprises I really didn't expect to see, like Far From Heaven, Finding Nemo, and Her.

Camo 09-09-16 11:22 AM

These were the ones i hadn't heard of:

100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)

Daniel M 09-09-16 11:25 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Toni Erdmann made a make splash at Cannes this year, I think it's Germany's oscar nominee this year.

Carlos, I think HK recommended that to me before, or someone did. It's not strictly a film (edited: Actually it got played a lot of places in all sorts of film lengths, there's different versions), but like a four part mini-series or something. When I saw it on the list I didn't initially recognise it until I checked either.

Camo 09-09-16 11:36 AM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
Think i'm going to watch something from the list tonight. Not sure what yet.

Iroquois 09-09-16 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1575990)
These were the ones i hadn't heard of:

100. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade, 2016)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)
Bah, I actually passed on attending a screening of The Headless Woman that happened some time before this list came out. On the other hand, White Material was on TV the day after so...balance?

Camo 09-09-16 08:42 PM

White Material seems to be something that appears on a lot of these lists. Claire Denis is like the token female director that you expect to see. That's not to say she isn't great i've only seen 35 Shots of Rum from her and i liked it, Andrea Arnold (Fish Tank), Katheryn Bigelow (Hurt Locker), seem to be the other major ones featured, surprised Lynne Ramsay isn't included. Not a complaint, i think it says more about me that i can't think of many female directors outside of those fore and Chantel Akerman who is retired i think.

Iroquois 09-09-16 08:57 PM

Re: BBC Top 100 Films of the 21st Century
 
A quick IMDb search reveals that Akerman was still directing up until her death in 2015, so I'm guessing whatever she did hadn't really resonated with critics enough to make it into a final list. I don't think I'd even heard of White Material and I barely know Denis - haven't seen anything she's done yet anyway (same goes for Arnold). Obviously some gaps in my film-watching that need filling.


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