Your top 5 star trek movies and how do u like 2009 reboot?
 

I ve seen all of the trek movies and i am a big trek fan since my childhood, i like the premjse of a space ship exploring the galaxy for new worlds and aliens etc,
I would like to mention that my personal favorite villain in the trek movies is: ricardo montalban s character in star trek: the wrath of khan.
All in all i liked most of the trek movies across the years but i found some of them dull and uninspiring to say the least.
Anyway here is my top 5 trek movies:
1-undisputed champ to me : star trek 2 the wrath of khan
2-star trek 2009 a superb reboot
3-star trek generations
4-star trek the search for spock
5-star trek the undiscovered country
Other notable mentions , star trek the voyage home and star trek the motion picture
Have your say and what are your top 5

Yeah, I've always liked Star Trek as well. When I was a kid I didn't respond as much to the classic series but now it's my favourite, along with the first series of TNG.

I think he'd be my choice as well, and I include Space Seed. I also really liked Tom Hardy as Shinzon – it was the first time I'd seen him and I was really impressed with the presence he had.

Yeah – it hadn't really occurred to me how little money they were given for those early films until the 2009 reboot came along and it was mentioned. A bit like Doctor Who they'd never put enough money on the table to do it justice.

I didn't expect to like the reboot but I saw the opening one night and it was great. I later got the film and watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it. There were a few things I wasn't keen on, and I didn't think Eric Bana was quite right for Nero, but it was alright. I haven't seen all of Into Darkness, but I didn't rate Benedict Cumberbatch at all. To me, it was a really poor performance.

My top 5:

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (I never liked this one but as soon as I changed my tack on the classic series I realised that this film is the closest to the feel of those episodes)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (I remember seeing this in the cinema, and always liked Sulu in this one. "I'm sorry Captain, you're breaking up" – legend :)).
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (you've got to love Christopher Lloyd – apparently he was that into being a warlord that he wanted to just shout up to his ship instead of using the communicator :p. Horrible makeup design though).
Star Trek: Nemesis (purely for Tom Hardy. The rest of it is not that great)

Re: Your top 5 star trek movies and how do u like 2009 reboot?
 

My current top five would be...

1. II: The Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. The Voyage Home
5. The Search for Spock

As for the '09 reboot - I re-watched it the other day and found it a slick but trifling affair that gets by on the basis of some decent casting and a plot that is propulsive but not numbing.

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I'm not a huge fan but I liked the oldies, whats the one where there are in a prison in a frozen wasteland? and wrath of khan was good

I found the remake to be convoluted and boring, the only enjoyable thing being the special effects.

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My favorite is The Empire Strikes Back.

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Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek IV - The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home
Star Trek (2009)
Star Trek III - The Search for Spock
Star Trek - The Motion Picture (2002 cut - A MUCH better film than the boring cut from 1979)
Star Trek - Into Darkness
Star Trek V - The Final Frontier

I don't think I've ever seen it.

I was always a Return of the Jedi fan myself :) (pre-CGI alterations, naturally).

I haven't watched these in a while, hard to remember my exact order, other than Khan being #1.

1. Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. The Voyage Home
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. Star Trek 09

I always see First Contact being very highly thought of but it continues to puzzle me as to why that is. I think my biggest problem with it was the way Picard behaved. His character was very odd and I'm not sure Patrick Stewart was at his best either.

I imagine it's because it actually does work well as a stand-alone adventure that has an action-oriented plot involving the Enterprise fighting the Borg, which is nice and all but doesn't especially suit the TNG crew (or Trek in general, if the Trekkie fanbase's opinions about the rebooted films are any indication). Also, I can at least understand why Picard would be acting odd - the Borg has long been established as his arch-enemy and to have to deal with them once again (especially when their threat was seemingly resolved towards the end of the TV series with the two-parter bridging seasons six and seven and especially when they managed to successfully alter the timeline and assimilate Earth) would only fuel his hatred for them to the point where he becomes dangerously obsessed with fighting them. To take one of the most rational characters in the Trek canon and have him grow more irrational in his quest to defeat the enemy at least makes sense and I thought he sold it very well.

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Star Trek V - I love how Sybok's hair keeps changing length throughout the film! That's a Vulcan thing you know, especially if they begin to let themselves feel emotions - their hair starts changing length and style! It's like a mood ring!

The uploader cut off the beginning of the video, so read this part first, then watch the video below:

Sheldon: What happened?
Leonard: Howard's at the Mars Rover lab. He says he's in trouble. Defcon 5.
Sheldon: Defcon 5? Well, there's no need to rush.
Leonard: What?
Sheldon: Defcon 5 means no danger. Defcon 1 is a crisis.
Leonard: How can 5 not be worse than 1?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQmfCOGmFU

Re: Your top 5 star trek movies and how do u like 2009 reboot?
 

I probably would take V over I, though.

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Thanks for that, gbg.

I'm a fan of ST the Motion Picture.

I'm one of the few who has some issues with IV.

First, it's a time travel movie (I have issues with time travel). They broke every rule and moral code established in the past about interfering with time - it's a form of breaking the Prime Directive - and they even bring the Seventh Heaven lady back to the future.

Second, it seemed like it just deviated from the story line set up in II and III with a comedy interlude. I appreciated the comedy, but again, it was a departure from the previous films - like they injected a TV episode into a movie series. And the segues at the beginning and end that tied it back into the ongoing story line of the film series just seemed contrived in order to feature Nimoy's whales.

Third, it was such an obvious "cause" movie. I like whales as much as the next guy but this was just a blatant preachy vehicle for Nimoy's pet cause.

Fourth, it didn't really address the gorilla in the room - that Spock was resurrected. He was like a clone recreated by a planet that, under the same principles self-destructed (would the same happen to him?). He was a clone that aged an entire lifetime in the course of a few days. His spirit had been re-injected into him, but what about his brain? His mind? This was all a miracle beyond science that involved science that not even anyone in their time understood, yet all these questions are glossed over to tell a comedic time travel story about whales.

Fifth, most people consider the Enterprise almost like it's a member of the original crew - yet the ship didn't even appear in this movie (except for a very brief cameo at the end of a replacement ship that was re-named "Enterprise").

I agree. Star Trek I is worse than Star Trek V, but they're both bad movies.



I think you're reading too much into the movie. Would you rather that they got to the end of the movie and we watched Spock explode like the planet did? :eek:

It's just a movie. It's going to have flaws, but you have to overlook them for the good of the overall movie. And overall, Star Trek IV is easily one of the best Star Trek movies.

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Keep in mind - this is years in retrospect. I liked the movie well enough when I first saw it but part of the reason I developed some of these feelings is this is the movie everyone always wants to watch - so I've probably seen it more than any other Trek movie. It's a matter of overexposure for me.

P.S. GBG, check out Rule's thread (I referenced you)... he didn't like Airplane! I'm expecting you to tear him a new one! ;)

I usually watch ST II, ST III, and ST IV as a trilogy. It makes Star Trek III a better movie.


If you remember, I said that might happen. People who saw the movie years ago, like it more for the nostalgia feeling, but people who waited and see it now, just think it's a dumb movie with very few laughs.

I'll make sure to read his review before I sign off tonight, but it might be a while. I'm listening to the songs for the song tournament right now.

Yes you did.
I have to admit I haven't watched it in a while myself (so I wonder what I'd think of it now). I don't really need to watch it since I pretty much know all the jokes by heart.

Have fun with the songs.

It's been many years since I've watched Airplane!, but like you, I pretty much know the movie by heart too.

Hubby watched it recently and he said it wasn't as funny as he remembered it. :shrug:

I've not seen Airplane!, or any Star Trek films because i'm not really a fan of the show. Would you have to watch them in order because i've thought about watching the ones that are on the lists here before?

The first ST film featuring the original crew (The Motion Picture - 1979) is a stand alone movie. It is never acknowledged again in any other film!

ST II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) kicks off a series of contiguous sequels:
III (The Search for Spock) & IV (The Voyage Home) are directly continuous, with each one picking up where the last one left off.

V (The Final Frontier) is a bit more stand alone. It's still in line with the previous movie as part of the series, but doesn't reference the previous film too much.

VI (The Undiscovered Country) also is fairly stand alone. Still part of the series but does not reference V (its immediate predecessor) at all.

"Generations" (1994) is the 7th ST film. It overlaps the crew of the Next Generation TV show and the original ST crew. This marks the end of the original crew's series of films.

After this there is a series of Next Gen movies and the characters (not necessarily the actors who played them) of the original crew are not seen on the big screen again until J.J. Abrams reboot in 2009 which is not in any continuity, but in a new "splinter" continuity that is severely altered from the original. (Oy vey!)

Yes, and we have lines like "Sounds Swedish" about the Borg, which must have been side-splitting for non-fans ;):rolleyes:. It's great how they go to the trouble of getting H. R. Giger to spruce them up and make them look really sinister, then take the **** out of them.

Even though I accept that notion – even then – I don't think it worked for the character.

Also, I'll give you two examples of dodgy acting, as I see it: where Picard says "That's what they want to do: stop First Contact" sounds really off and completely lacking in interest; and the speech where he says "a line must be drawn here". I'd also be tempted to blame Jonathan Frakes for letting it through, because it's as if he didn't want to ask for another take or a different way of doing it.

Re: Your top 5 star trek movies and how do u like 2009 reboot?
 

1. Wrath of Khan-no doubt about it.

Here's where it gets tricky picking the next best ones and their order.

2. Star Trek 2009.

3. First Contact.

4. The Undiscovered Country.

5. The Voyage Home.

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So the things is, the creation of genesis which was a failure and we only know it at the end of star trek 3 , all of the bad guys wanted to get their hands on the genesis device to create their own planets, only to become an obsession

Its mentioned in Wrath of Khan though that Genesis can also be used to destroy life if its used on a planet which has it. I'm imagine that Khan's plan in that film for example might have been to return to earth and hold it hostage then declare himself ruler.

Generally I think Wrath of Khan clearly looked to reimagine Trek as a kind of cold war submarine film. The ships become darker and more claustrophobic and Genesis becomes a parallel for nuclear research and its weaponisation. The Klingons more clearly than ever take up the position of the USSR and view Genesis as an attempt to upset the current status quo.

I am a big fan of the first film simply because it has that intrigue of spock exploring that alien spaceship and how the build up was being made, i really like the first film tbh

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I haven't seen any of the movies accept for the 2009 reboot and the one that followed it. I saw the original TV show and some of the next generation when I was a kid though.

I didn't like the 2009 cause I felt it wasn't really in spirit with the show, it kind of went all over the place, with some cheesy moments for me. But it wasn't terrible though.

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I don't consider the JJ Abrams' reboots part of the Star Trek universe - and apparently neither does he as they're not even supposed to be the same characters as they exist in an alternate universe that runs outside of the original one that Gene Roddenberry introduced.

but nontheless, great entry in the star trek franchise, and i love how spock played lenard nemoy is introduced in the plot as spock from the future, big hommage to the original films

I saw a bit of Star Trek: Discovery recently, the early episodes. I quite like the revised Klingons with their monolithic faces, but the downside is that it looks like a big mask on a human, rather than a creature in its own right. Really bemused about the use of the name Michael for the lead character's name — and that's even with knowledge of the reasoning behind it. Her connection with Sarek and Spock just comes over as desperately trying to bolt the series to what's come before to make sure we care, but she's not an easy character to get behind from what I've seen. Incidentally it's weird how much I'm put off that James Frain plays Sarek with an American accent, and yet, of course, Mark Lenard had one :p.

I don't consider them part of the Star Trek universe either. I don't even consider them period.

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I'd argue Beyond is the only decent entry in the reboot series.

Completely agree. I consider the Kelvin timeline films to be more like a reimagining of Star Trek rather than real canon. They have some good moments here and there but ultimately lack depth.


They represent paramount's attempt to make Trek appeal to a mainstream audience by focusing on action and effects rather than exploring the characters and delving into some of the philosophical issues which Trek is known for. Style over substance essentially.


By trying to broaden the appeal they pleased nobody because they alienated a lot of trekkies who felt like they'd sacrificed the spirit of Trek in order to make a few more bucks, and didn't do enough to make fans out of casual movie-goers who were spoilt for choice in a very crowded blockbuster marketplace with all the comic book films, Star Wars, transformers, fast and furious etc.


Star Trek is made for TV. That's where it thrives. Although after watching Discovery and Picard, I'm beginning to think otherwise...


Anyway my top five.:
1. Wrath of Khan
2. Undiscovered Country
3. First Contact
4. Voyage Home
5. Generations

Have you seen the TV show "The Orville"?

I highly recommend this show for Star Trek fans.

No but I've heard it's meant to be good; more true to Star Trek than the actual Star Trek shows.

I didn't expect much from "The Orville" at first, but it's become one of my favorite shows.