Classic Basketball Thread
Anyone seen ESPNs top 10 of each position?
Sg: 1.Michael Jordan 2.Kobe Bryant 3.Jerry West 4.Dwyayne Wade 5.Clyde Drexler 6.Allan Iverson 7.George Gervin 8.Ray Allen 9.Reggie Miller 10.Earl Monroe PG: 1.Magic Johnson 2.Oscar Robertson 3.John Stockton 4.Stephen Curry 5.Isiah Thomas 6.Chris Paul 7.Steve Nash 8.Jason Kidd 9.Walt Frazier 10.Bob Cousy Center: 1.Kareem 2.Wilt 3.Russell 4.Shaq 5.Hakeem 6.Moses 7.Robinson 8.Ewing 9.Mikan 10.Walton PF: 1.Duncan 2.Malone 3.Dirk 4.Barkley 5.Garnett 6.McHale 7.Pettit 8.Hays 9.Pau 10.Rodman SF: 1.Lebron 2.Bird 3.Dr J 4.Durant 5.Baylor (should still be above Durant) 6.Pippen 7.Hondo 8.Barry 9.Worthy 10.Wilkins |
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Camo, you surprise me.. you are in the UK and you watch American sports?
Most Ukers and Australians dont like American sports.. |
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When did they post this? I know Steph Curry hung the moon and all, but feels kinda odd for him to be that high already.
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Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446267)
When did they post this? I know Steph Curry hung the moon and all, but feels kinda odd for him to be that high already.
100.Shawn Kemp 99.Kevin Love :laugh: 98.Gail Goodrich 97.James Harden 96.Bobby Jones 95.Marc Gasol 94.Mark Price 93.Lenny Wilkens 92.Nate Thurmond (should be a lot higher) 91.Maurice Cheeks |
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Wade, Curry, and Paul all seem high. I hate Iverson. I know he was a scoring machine though.
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I saw that too. I was on the phone with a friend when I saw it. I mentioned how out of place Love felt on the list, and I also thought it was a little early to see Harden in the list. Happy to see Gail Goodrich on the list. I said the same thing about Nate Thurmond too, dunno why he is so low.
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100 is a lot but Love and Gasol? Too early for Harden too.
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Originally Posted by MovieGal (Post 1446266)
Camo, you surprise me.. you are in the UK and you watch American sports?
Most Ukers and Australians dont like American sports.. |
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We can all agree that the worst thing about the Cold War is how long it kept Arvydas Sabonis out of the NBA, right?
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Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446273)
100 is a lot but Love and Gasol? Too early for Harden too.
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Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446271)
Wade, Curry, and Paul all seem high. I hate Iverson. I know he was a scoring machine though.
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One of the best youtube channels if you want to watch OLD basketball posted a 26 minute video on Elgin Baylor. Baylor is a lot of fun to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjNS_oYE92E |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446276)
We can all agree that the worst thing about the Cold War is how long it kept Arvydas Sabonis out of the NBA, right?
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Elgin Baylor was unbelievable. The saddest thing in Basketball was him retiring a year before the Lakers won the title.
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446280)
Yeah. Also Rocky 4 has to shoulder the blame for the horrendous officiating in the Lakers-Portland 2001 series.
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Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446284)
Sabonis gave Shaq some trouble, just imagine if he actually had knees at that point in his career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglV2qpoD70 |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446276)
We can all agree that the worst thing about the Cold War is how long it kept Arvydas Sabonis out of the NBA, right?
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446290)
Still think the Chris Webber Kings team was better than that Portland and deserved a title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglV2qpoD70 |
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Speaking of knees. Manute Bol. He has some of my favorite stat lines of all time. One of them was when he was in a DIII college, but still, this is a wacky one: 32 points, 29 rebounds.... and 31 blocks. I know, DIII college game, but still hilarious to think about. That would have been a blast to see in person.
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31 blocks, holy geeze. I hated wztching Bol. Very awkward looking player. You like the giants hey JJ?
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Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446295)
31 blocks, holy geeze. I hated wztching Bol. Very awkward looking player. You like the giants hey JJ?
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32 points, 29 rebounds.... and 31 blocks
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Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446296)
They can be a lot of fun to watch. There's something exciting about seeing Manute Bol block 8 shots and make a three pointer. I love reading box scores, so oddities like that make me like certain players more than I should.
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446297)
That was like an average tuesday for Wilt.
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446275)
Out of the big four NA sports Basketball is the only one i'm really into have been since i was like 8 or something. Getting into the NFL quite a bit right now and can't wait for the Super Bowl, i'm interested in Baseball too but i must admit i'm mostly interested in pitching, Greg Maddux is my favourite player so far.
We got to go to the play offs for the NFL but lost to Cricket's silly team... Patriots... We used to have a basketball team in the 1970's... http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/...g?resolution=0 We have NASCAR here, minor league baseball and soccer as well and we had indoor football and hockey at one time. |
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Wilt's numbers were other worldly. If stats told the whole story he's the greatest by miles.
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Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446299)
If we compared everything to Wilt, the only thing that would impress anybody is somebody making two free throws in a row.
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Yeah MG, you guys had Oscar at one point.
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446305)
Yeah MG, you guys had Oscar at one point.
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How in the world did that happen? Watching video of Wilt shooting free throws is hilarious. He approached it like a child approaches the task of eating their vegetables. I've heard the theory that Wilt was just too powerful for free throws and it was hard for him to get the right amount of touch on his shots from the line. I don't remember where I saw it, maybe on his namesake's archive, but it talked about how great he was with fadeaways because he could actually get touch on his shot by going away from the basket.
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Originally Posted by MovieGal (Post 1446308)
Oscar? sorry, Im not familiar with the players back then.... I was a young girl .. I remember my father watching it.. but my parents were more into Baseball and Football.
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Oscar Robertson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Robertson
Apparently he didn't play in KC. Played for the same team though. |
Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446312)
Oscar Robertson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Robertson
Apparently he didn't play in KC. Played for the same team though. |
Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446312)
Oscar Robertson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Robertson
Apparently he didn't play in KC. Played for the same team though. |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446309)
How in the world did that happen? Watching video of Wilt shooting free throws is hilarious. He approached it like a child approaches the task of eating their vegetables. I've heard the theory that Wilt was just too powerful for free throws and it was hard for him to get the right amount of touch on his shots from the line. I don't remember where I saw it, maybe on his namesake's archive, but it talked about how great he was with fadeaways because he could actually get touch on his shot by going away from the basket.
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Kansas City Kings - Basketball
Kansas City Royals - Baseball Kansas City Athletics - Our first baseball team (moved to Oakland) Kansas City Blades - Hockey KC Sporting - Soccer Kansas City Brigade - Arena Football Kansas City T-Bones - minor league Baseball Kansas City Monarchs - Negro Baseball Team (1920-1965) damn forgot Kansas City Chiefs... (how could I?!?!?) |
Originally Posted by MovieGal (Post 1446314)
well The Royals are our baseball team... and the Kings was our basketball team...
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1446322)
The Kings were the Rochester Royals (they won their only title under this name) then the Cincinatti Royals before becoming the Kansas City-Omaha Kings then just the Kansas City Kings now Sacramento.
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Originally Posted by MovieGal (Post 1446325)
Ok makes sense... I didnt know.. I just knew that Kansas City Athletics moved to Oakland CA and became the Oakland A's.
I know they were KC btw, just saying they were the Philly A's for over 50 years. |
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So what current players are you guys into? JJ, your a Thunder fan right? Are you a fan of a current team Camo?
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Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446330)
So what current players are you guys into? JJ, your a Thunder fan right? Are you a fan of a current team Camo?
1.Dwayne Wade 2.Russell Westbrook 3.Danny Green 4.Kevin Durant 5.Stephen Curry |
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Wish Steve Nash was a little higher than 7, and it's awesome to see Larry Bird at 2 but I don't like Lebron, and I'm a die-hard Celtics fan, so number 1 would have been awesome. And personally I think Reggie Miller is a better ball player than Allen or Gervin, he should have been behind Iverson.
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Top 5 retired since this is a Classic thread:
1.Bird 2.Hakeem 3.Frazier 4.Pippen 5.Iverson (yup) |
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Iverson. Come on Camo. My fave five. Quite standard and boring.
Magic Jordan Hakeem Bird Malone. Sorry, you said you were a Celtics fan in the other thread. I don't watch nearly the amount of ball I used to but I really enjoy watching Curry, Durant, and Rose when he's healthy. Dirk is fun. Bryant is great but a love to hate kind of guy for me. |
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Bird
Jordan Pippen Magic Nash |
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My starting lineup
PG: Isiah Thomas SG: Michael Jordan SF: Lebron James PF: Tim Duncan C: Bill Russell |
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Karl or Moses Malone Sean? I imagine it is Karl but just in case. Glad to see Hakeem and Bird on your list.
ATC has the best one (other than mine) though. |
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Karl, sorry. I like Pippen and Nash but they are not this level for me.
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Maybe do it by decade? If I had to go with the 2010's I'd go with...
Chris Paul Kobe Bryant Lebron James Tim Duncan Joakim Noah |
Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446330)
So what current players are you guys into? JJ, your a Thunder fan right? Are you a fan of a current team Camo?
Starting Five all-time, if I want to win some kind of championship Magic MJ Bird Nowitzki Wilt I like the idea of having damn good spacing with this group. For fun starting 5: Jason Williams Manu Ginobili Kevin Durant Elgin Baylor Bill Walton |
Originally Posted by jiraffejustin (Post 1446433)
Yep, Thunder are my favorite team. As far as current favorite players, go, I usually like to watch young teams that aren't that great yet. Or they are pretty good, but not good enough to beat the Thunder in a series, because then I will fall in hate with them. That's how it is with the Warriors now, I liked them before they were champs, now I just want to crush them somehow.
Starting Five all-time, if I want to win some kind of championship Magic MJ Bird Nowitzki Wilt I like the idea of having damn good spacing with this group. For fun starting 5: Jason Williams Manu Ginobili Kevin Durant Elgin Baylor Bill Walton And your forwards can't play defense! :D |
Originally Posted by matt72582 (Post 1446436)
Off-topic JJ, but that clapping avatar is annoying :)
And your forwards can't play defense! :D |
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We should talk about how Dennis Rodman should have won the 96 Finals MVP.
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Funny thing about JJ's avatars is even though I hate rap, I love his current and former avatars.
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Originally Posted by seanc (Post 1446335)
Iverson. Come on Camo. My fave five. Quite standard and boring.
Magic Jordan Hakeem Bird Malone |
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Horace Grant was a very good player for the Bulls, but when Rodman took over that slot, they went from great to practically unbeatable.
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Originally Posted by cricket (Post 1446452)
Horace Grant was a very good player for the Bulls, but when Rodman took over that slot, they went from great to practically unbeatable.
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He was also a very smart player
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Chicago was the best possible place for him. Jordan was always going to keep him in check. So like JJ said, he was the right kind of crazy. I still have never watched anyone who anticipates for a rebound like him. I have also never seen a worse offensive player in the NBA. He made Bowen look like MJ.
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Rodman said he learned from Rick Mahorn to pinch guys' butts to get into their heads.
If you haven't already, check out the ESPN "30 For 30" Detroit Pistons Bad Boys |
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http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/F...1EbAqjkAvl.jpg
Rodman was an awesome ball player, but I always think of this movie first, before I even think about his skills. |
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It's a shame Orlando couldn't put a decent team around T-Mac in his prime. He doesn't get mentioned in these things but on pure talent he deserves to be. Nobody made scoring look as effortless as him. He almost beat the Detroit Pistons in the playoffs when Orlando was an 8 seed and Detroit was a 1 by himself. He averaged close to 40 that series. The next year, with basically the same team Detroit won it all. Bet you can't name another player on that Orlando team besides T-Mac and Grant Hill (and he didn't play). Anyways I'm a massive Magic fan ha if you can't tell.
Curry while being a GREAT player shouldn't be that high yet. Who is to say Curry doesn't blow out a knee and never play to the level he is playing now? He is only been elite elite for a season and a half. Needs more of a full body of work. Saying that he is probably my favorite player to watch since Orlando T-Mac. Also I love Durant and Westbrook. But it is hard to root for the notSonics. Seattle was ALWAYS my favorite west team. I loved Payton and Kemp and always had a fascination with the city of Seattle (never been). Plus the Seattle SuperSonics might be the best name in sports and those uniforms are great. Literally go from the best team name and uniforms to the worst. Seattle had that team stolen and they should be doing this in Seattle. Also I am completely sold on Ben Simmons. As long as he develops a consistent jump shot it is going be unstoppable. He is a 6'10 PG, legit PG. He is Magic Johnson but a better athlete. |
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The Chamberlain archive posted some fun highlights today from 1973
Jerry Lucas and Earl Monroe vs the Bullets Lucas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqDKOFbpEZE Monroe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRhm1vZysY |
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