Christian Bale visits Colorado Shooting victims.
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...urns-dead.html

Christian Bale just went way up in my estimation.

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He's definitely someone that should be seen as a role model.

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Read about this earlier on FaceBook. The Bale Respect Rises.

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Good on you Bale.

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He's only human. I don't like some of his past behavior but this was a gutsy choice. He had to know he was opening himself up to attacks from haters and cynics.

Even the haters and cynics surely won't attack him for this.

Some people are attacking him right in the very article you posted. Of course, with all the trolling online, it's practically impossible to know what's genuine anger and resentment or what's antagonism for antagonism's sake.

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I've already seen someone on another site attack him for this, saying he was there for publicity.

But still, Well done Bale. Top bloke indeed.

Aye.

He's damned if he goes and he's damned if he doesn't.

Trolls attacking him for this are pure scum.

What a nice lift it will be for the survivors to see him, after what they have gone through.

How could Christian Bale not do this? He's Batman. This was a national tragedy. Even President Obama went to visit these people. This makes total sense. Publicity has nothing to do with it. In fact, if anything, this is, if you wanna look at it from a publicity angle, BAD publicity. Which could be why people are upset. He's from the movie and people died going to see this movie. But you shouldn't look at this and think, he's doing it to promote The Dark Knight Rises. That would be horrible.

But these people deserve a treat. If it was me in that hospital, I'd want this. I would also want privacy with him.

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Urgh, The Daily Mail website is one of the worst mainstream sites to read comments, there are a horrendous amount of people on there who post horrible comments because they can. The website is full of inbreds.

As for Bale, good for him and I bet most of the injured will be very happy about it.

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Very nice of him.

I'd heard an unsubstantiated rumour that Warner Brothers had pushed him to go dressed as Batman. Thankfully he didn't, if of course said rumour is true at all, which at this point is doubtful.

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^ That sounds like a rumour because it's such an awful and stupid idea.

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Yeah, those people don't need to see another suited-up guy in all black.

But I must say - it would be adorable. This whole thing is like a creepy Nolan/Batman movie come to life. First they get the Joker, and then Batman comes to save the day.

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I read about this on Facebook the other day, I think it was a really cool thing of Bale to do. But when I read the article I felt like something was wrong when the journalist kept mentioning the amount of time he spent with people.

I believe it said he spent 2.5h there and 10 minutes each with EMT and Police who were at the scene of the crime as well as spoke to the Doctors and patients of the people who were affected by the shooting.

I know 2.5h is a long visit as well as 10 minutes with each person is reasonable, but it sounds like (from the journalist point of view) that he was just here for the publicity. I respect Bale for doing this regardless of his intentions, the people got to see their hero in person - and that's something.

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There were big callouts on Facebook for him to do it...

Youngsters going to see him on the big screen get hurt doing so, I'm pretty sure he'd have gone there anyway to see them.

Apparently he's really eccentric but still, he's got a heart.

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Yeah I saw people on Facebook say that he should of shown up in his Batman costume to visit the people who were injured.

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Regardless, Well done to Bale. I really respect him for this.

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Nice guy, I respect that.

Kudos Christian

He didn't do this for publicity. He did it because he's a class act. And yes I remember his outburst on the set of the Terminator movie. Anyone who says this is publicity, is plain wrong. First of all the movie couldn't be more hyped and I think that the shooting is keeping it even more in the public eye, so this move is gracious and respectful and certainly a right thing to do - nothing else. Saying it's publicity is like saying a sparkler is going to get attention at a fireworks display on Independence Day. It's just not so.

I guess that's one person's point of view :) I believe he just wants to do this for some publicity, sure there's a small part of me that believes he is doing this because he's a good human being - but at the same time I believe that he wants to be on the news for this.

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People who think like that are cynical. Have a heart? People were killed and injured while they were at the movies. Why the hell wouldn't he go? Publicity? For christ sake he asked for no media attention while he was there.

What basis do you have to believe that? Isn't it, in fact, more likely that he just wanted to give some small comfort to the victims? It seems a stretch to me to conclude that Bale would seize an opportunity out of this tragedy to make himself look good. I don't see anything in his past behavior to suggest that is likely.

However, since none of know Bale's mind or his true intentions, how about just assuming the best of him and being glad that the people in the hospital were most likely happy to see him. I would have been.

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I saw where Bale didn't even want media to know he was there. I think he gets a bad rap for that rant. Seems like a decent enough dude. He certainly is a talented enough dude.

What grinds my gears are stupid lawsuits. One of the victims is suing Holmes doctors, the cinema and Warner Brothers. Yea money will make everything better won't it?

-Warner Bros. Karpel (guy's lawyer) says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today.

ahh so it must have been a protest for him to even be there at midnight on Thursday the very first chance he could see it. Interesting protest tactics.

If it was another actor, I would likely agree with you, but not with Christian Bale. The man went through incredible weight loss for two extremely low low profile indie movies (that I know of anyway - maybe there's more): Rescue Dawn and The Machinist.

He doesn't have the history and his profile just doesn't fit for the type of actor that does a lot of publicity stunts, etc, etc.

Now on the other hand when Matthew McConoh... whatever goes on the Morning Shows or some such similar dreck to talk about how his weight loss is going "I want my fans to know I'm OK" for playing an AIDS patient, that IS nothing but a publicity stunt.

Again, this move by Bale, is not.

Well said. Yes, there has to be someone/something to blame other than the shooter.

I find the notion that Bale's visit to the hospital was just a publicity move to be rather ridiculous. Now, I'm no fan of Bale. He strikes me as being something of a jerk and I've never been overly impressed with his performances. However, it seems to me that if his intent was to gain publicity, he likely would've held a press conference and made a big deal out of what a hero he is. He didn't do that.

His ties to the movie meant that people were expecting him to respond in some way. He could've just issued a press release expressing his sadness over the events. Instead he decided to give the victims a little bit of happiness in an otherwise tragic situation. I commend him for that.

:rolleyes: The article also says he is suing the cinema for not being prepared. That someone was not guarding the exit doors. Never in my life going to a movie theater has there been someone guarding the emergency exit doors during a movie.

There is not much you can prepare for when a lunatic decides to snap. I get it the incident shook him up, hell I'd probably cry myself to sleep for a month. But the last thing i'd be thinking of is the headache of going to the trouble of getting a lawyer then going through the legal system. Doesn't it feel disrespectful to the victims too?

We need Petey the "Don't Sue People" Panda (if you get that reference I love you, which is ironic because it's in Colorado)

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The guy is blaming the movie for the violence in it, yet he's the one paying to see it at midnight. What an idiot.

I still can't believe people thought it was part of the show. When the hell does any of that happen unless your at an amusement park or a special screening event. It was just a midnight showing. Plus they would not do anything 30 minutes into the flick.

I can't see this guy winning his case against WB, at all. Who knows about the other two.

It was opening night, it was a really big movie....

Plus, their minds probably needed to think that it was all a joke. That they weren't really in danger and about to be killed. Being that it was a movie theater and nobody expects such a thing to happen there, their minds reached for what could only be the most logical, safest answer to them -- that it was a stunt. A mixture of denial and confusion.

Not all of them probably sat there totally convinced that it was a stunt. Some percentage of their brain was probably screaming, "This is a stunt!" while another part was going, "Get up and run!" But then another part of themselves might have been responding to the "Run!" message with, "If I get up and run and it's all a joke, I'll look stupid. I'll look like a wimp."

You don't always know how you'll react in new situations.

I was going to say the same thing, Sexy. If anyone's ever been in a car accident or something else that comes on fast and is unexpected, you'll know your mind can come up with some crazy things. I think it's just your brain trying to catch up and make sense of things.

I knew there would be tons of lawsuits. Ridiculous. That man was going to snap somewhere, sometime, regardless of what movies he ever saw.

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Random observation, but that photo of Bale posing with the victim reminded me of the scene in TDKR where [semi spoiler] he visits Jim Gordon in the hospital.

Yeah, it will. Sue 'em, I say. I can especially see a reason to sue Warner Brothers for a couple of reasons -- for the hype of this movie; for the midnight showings; and for the Joker character. Maybe you'll think it's stupid, but this movie created such a big sensation around the world and put people together in big groups everywhere. Though everyone's responsible for their actions, I do think there's something kind of disgusting about this level of fandom when suddenly people are getting gunned down by someone calling himself a villain from the movie series. There is a sense of the movie growing out of control and inviting danger. I think the movie attracted this psycho. I think that in some sense the movie does deserve some blame.

There is a religious vibe to everyone dragging themselves to this movie, as if it were church. I doubt everyone went just to see the movie -- I bet there were people who went because it was THE movie to see. A form of being among the in crowd. And I can see reasons to blame Warner Brothers for putting people in that theater. I do see a darkness about it that warrants compensation. I don't think the movie is at fault, but I think the fanfare of this violent film is.

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^^Drivel. Absolute drivel.^^

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You need to be bitchslapped for suggesting fans brought that bloody murder on themselves.

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Well, something's not right and these people deserve something for the hell that happened to them in that theater. You don't go to a big Batman movie and get yourself shot or your family member killed by some man who snaps and calls himself The Joker and apparently has been planning it for months in advance and then you don't even get a dime from what happened. This movie, this EVENT, had become a very big deal. Someone used the stage for this movie's premiere as a place to kill others. An American citizen turned on others using a character from the movie series these people were watching. There is something wrong here. There is something very wicked about it and I do feel the people responsible for this movie should be at least a little responsible for what happened. There should be a percentage of responsibility on their hands. A percentage - not a large percentage and certainly not total responsibility - but some responsibility. Even if the responsibility is something silly like maybe the film should have been released in the winter instead of summer. I think they deserve to take some responsibility. Just because their movie got all of these people there, got everyone out of their homes and into these theaters and made a HUGE, HUGE big deal out of the whole thing. This event attracted that psycho, I'm pretty sure. And there are certainly other levels of responsibility, including that particular theater.

The fact of the matter is that movie theater became a hazard area. That movie theater was not safe! And it's not just because of James Holmes. It's largely because of him, yes, but not totally.

I did not say that.

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And what if they had only shown The Dark Knight Rises in only one screening room instead of ... 12 or the whole theater in some cases? My local theater was showing it in 12 screening rooms that night and they were ALL. SOLD. OUT. That was insanity! Even before this massacre happened, I knew about what was happening at my theater and I was screaming, "INSANITY! INSANITY!"

Maybe precautions and limits and measures need to be taken from now on. Maybe there shouldn't be that many screening rooms playing that movie and bringing in these big crowds of people. Maybe they really do need to start thinking about people's safety in these theaters. Maybe they need to realize they're catering to a violent film series and suddenly HOARDS of people are in one building -- and at other buildings, too. Maybe they should have thought, "Well, what if one of the people coming out on that night happens to be a lunatic who starts killing people?"

Hello! This is the human race. People are capable of being wild animals.

I'll tell you one thing -- they'll be thinking about this stuff from now on. They have learned a lesson.

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And if all of the parties involved can be so money crazed to allow so many theaters/screening rooms to be playing this movie, and if Warner Brothers wants The Dark Knight Rises to be a BIG, BIG success -- well, they can afford to think about the finances of those twelve people who died, and the other people who were shot, because they came to see that movie.

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You damn well did suggest it but I'm familiar with you shooting off your mouth with crazy speculation so I'm just going to ignore the rest of your foolishness.

You've misinterpreted something. I never said "THE FANS BROUGHT THIS ON THEMSELVES!" I said the FANFARE is responsible. The excitement and religious aspects to attending this new Batman sermon. The buzz. The talk. The scene. Not the fans themselves. You make it sound like I'm saying the fans ought to be responsible for getting killed. I never put it that way and I don't believe that. The fans are not responsible for getting killed and they're not all responsible for the fanfare, either.

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Funny, I don't recall people slaughtering each other with broadswords when the geeks came out in droves dressed as elves and wizards for LOTR.

Anyways, you're talking out of your ass.

Luckily, that was a totally different kind of film, but it still could have happened.

So? I'd talk out of my ass all the time if I could. It's one of my best features. I like it a hell of a lot more than where I keep my teeth and tongue. Although, some people prefer that.

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It wasn't totally different, though.

*shrugs* It doesn't have themes of chaos and violence like The Dark Knight series. I feel like what happened in Aurora is like The Dark Knight movies almost crossing over into our world. Someone coming out of nowhere and killing people and calling himself The Joker - as I said before - makes a sort of twisted sense. Someone coming out of nowhere during LOTR in a Gollum costume and blowing away people with an AK is a little more on the wild side.

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You sound like you and the killer could have some fascinating conversations together.

The LOTR trilogy was very dark, and had plenty of chaos and violence.

This conversation is stupid and I'm ending it.

I have no idea.

Maybe so, but it wasn't based in modern time. It was a fantasy film set in the past (I guess it was the past? I'm not skilled with LOTR knowledge.) Anyway, its differences changes things.

Fine. Go have a cookie.

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Mate! You can't sue the Movie studio's and also the Theatre showing the Film. Honestly, you can't, on the other hand! Make the US Government and Politicians do something with gun laws. I know in the amendment you can arm yourself, however that's when the Americans fought off the Poms and become a nation. Now, why do people have to have semi-automatic weapons in America? Drug dealers would always get them, gangs if the law was changed...that's what happens.

Oh, I don't know. Sue, bitch, it's all the same thing.

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Here you go Pom.......sorry, yank! I was just informed. Sorry British mofo's..;)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sue

is the bar so low, that doing the decent thing is to be revered?

I'm not getten it.

A.) You can't sue a movie because it is "so violent" when you bought a ticket to see it the very moment it came out. It oozes of a greedy hypocrite. If you want to sue because you feel it is too violent and never actually went to the movie that is another thing. Still flipping stupid because it is art. If this is the case sue the Saw series because that is just violence to be violent. Besides WB donated a sizable amount to the victims already. Not to metion other groups and company's that probably donated money to them.

B.)It is a movie theater, it is not a military base in Iraq. There is no need for someone to guard the exits, it's crazy to think so, unless ppl are sneaking in without a ticket. I have never felt in danger one time in my life at a movie theater. When someone walks in with a gun dressed in swat gear there is not much you can do. I almost promise the movie theater has no safety plans for that. I hate guns period.

C.)I suppose we should arrest every kid on Halloween who calls themselves the joker and dresses up like him.

It's a terrible terrible tragedy what happen in that movie theater but it's almost as big a tragedy to try to capitalize off this sad event, IMO.

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I usually agree with Sexy Celebrity, but I think he's way off base here.

And I never said you should! Suing because the movie is violent was never my case. I think it's ludicrous.

You know what, though? Every movie I go to, people routinely make rounds through the screening room, checking the exit, going up and down the aisles, etc. It never seems like the people are doing much, either (I know - I've worked in a movie theater before and have done this routine) so maybe there should be more to this routine. Maybe there should be more security. Not asking for someone to guard the exits, but maybe something else should be done.

Oh, stop being condescending. This is stupid talk.

It's not capitalizing -- it's experiencing an unexpected, horrible situation in a public place, going to see a very popular film, getting shot, losing someone you love and not getting anything for it. An innocent little trip to the movies took lives. Just because some psycho walked in and did the deed himself does not mean nothing else is responsible in some way. A large group of people should not have a maniac gunning them down in a movie theater. Something else has also gone wrong besides this one person. As hard as it may be to believe, I don't think it's just this one guy that lead to this. I think we've hit a wall and now we see that events like this can lead to mayhem. I don't blame the movie as an art form, but I blame aspects of how this movie was being treated by society. And I think that this late-at-night, midnight showing in every room in the theater phenomenon is probably too much, especially when it's film like Batman. Don't take the whole family out at night to go see violence when the werewolves are lurking about.

Hrmmm, my sarcasm with the statement "there has to be someone/something to blame other than the shooter" apparently did not fall upon you. Read the quoted part within the rest of the comment I quoted for context clues. Ergo - we agree.

Deserves? Deserves got nothing to do with it. Entitlement is a wonderful thing right? A tragedy happens so it makes it easier to cope with if you get things? Who pays for this? You the ticket buyer when costs rise to pay for lawsuits? Why do you think medical bills are so expensive - to cover malpractice suits and liability insurance that hospitals pay.

And as far as large groupings of people that the film created, so they should take responsibility for the shooting. It's ridiculous. The guns are not responsible, nor is the theater? I'll spin this for. If anything sue the theater for prohibiting firearms, which in turn had five or six people been carrying the death toll may have been lower. Or...

try this on for size. What is responsible? THE SHOOTER. NO ONE, NO THING ELSE. Now if we get to the conversation of what motivated a human being to do such a thing, then that is a conversation worth having. But first we need to get beyond this sue the theater, and blame guns BS.

OH OK. I get it. You're being satirical.

Hey, that Karen Klein woman rode a school bus for 15 minutes with some bratty kids who called her fat and she earned over $700,000 (ALMOST A FREAKIN' MILLION DOLLARS!) from people who "felt sorry for her and wanted to give her a vacation." Don't you think the people who got shot or the families of the victims who were killed deserve that kind of money? I sure as hell do. I know that was voluntarily given, but so what? Money is money. Get it wherever.

I don't know if money makes it easier to cope with things when you've lost someone you love, BUT IT'S SOMETHING! It's a whole lot better than a whole lot of nothing. Might not erase the psychological damage, but it might do a whole lot of other good. Money is not evil. It's a form of comfort. It's a way to stabilize.

Big freakin' deal. Those movie tickets are already so damn expensive. People can just stay home and find a torrent.

Well, then let's start making some smarter moves to avoid tragedies.

I'm not sure I understand what you have said here.

Well, burying the idea of suing the theater or Warner Brothers, as long as these people get compensated somehow, GOOD DAY. Good day for them. They certainly deserve it. Hell, I think just from the media attention alone they deserve something. These people are now celebrity victims. Give 'em a couple of bucks.

But they did, WB donated money to them. Listen, no one will ever change my mind about this, so we will never see eye to eye on this debate. It is NOBODY'S fault except the lunatic who decided to massacre incident people without warning. If they want money to make them feel better go after whatever he has. People could lose their jobs at the theater or at WB because they will lose money from paying this guy.

Too me, it's just me, he is saying this is the price tag on my friends life. Every time he looks at his bank account he'll think of his friend dying, oh i'm rich because of him. I just find it really appalling. But thats me and my stance.

You may have the last word sir, i need more light hearted banter in here ha this is depressing.

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That's good that Warner Brothers gave them some money.

Hey, if I had gone to this theater and got shot and killed and someone else got rich off of me dying... I wouldn't care. Know why? Cause I'D BE DEAD! Not like I could use or enjoy the money, anyways. That's the way the cookie crumbles. So, looking at your bank account and feeling guilty is silly. Sad... I can understand feeling sad. But guilty? I could only imagine feeling guilty if the person who died didn't really like you, or you didn't like them. But even then, HA HA, you have the money and they don't!

PM me if you wanna invite me to the movies and use me as a shield.

The thing I have a problem with! The f***** bas**** who did what he did, he sent a letter to some University about what he was going to do. However, they didn't open it till the tragic death of 12 innocent people. The Bas**** sent it 10-12 days before it! That's bad!!!

Should have emailed it if he wanted someone to read it

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Yeah, but that is no excuse for a University. I don't blame them, but it makes you think????

ha well don't tell the man suing anyone and everyone, he'll come after that University.

Was there anyone at the University though? or was it Summer break?

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He gained my respect. Very kind of him.

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I honestly doubt he did it for the publicity. Seems like he did it because he felt bad. It is possible he 'avoided' publicity and told everyone to not contact the media expecting that people would do the opposite thing. However that is not very likely.