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No thread for Casino Royale? I haven't seen it yet, since I've been in the hospital getting my appendix removed. What's your excuse?

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Ursula Andress has always been my favorite. Even though she's a villan.
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casino roayle was excellent. best bond movie and best bond in ages!

It is a movie that has to be seen.

One of the best Bond films. DC is awesome !

Casino Royale is so close to becoming the highest grossing Bond Movie in the States I can almost smell it. It's even on course to become only the third film ever to pass 100 million in the UK, therefore beating Dead Man's Chest as the highest grossing film of 2006.

Do it for England James!

Yeah I suppose if there is ever to be a film to do that well in the UK, it should be OO7. Do you think it is really well liked over there or is it's popularity based mostly out of curiosity from the negative publicity this smaller Bond has gotten?

This is very probably one of the top three Bond movies.

Actualy this was the first James Bond film I saw:) Don't understand some who state Graig can't be Bond without even watching the film. He looks real. I liked both him and his girl friend! Waiting for a new film with him;)

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It's good but certainly not among the top 3 bond movies, According to me top 3 bond movies are:
1. Golden Eye
2. Live & Let Die
3. Goldfinger
But Daniel Craig has the potential to be a better bond, only what he is missing is Roger Moore's charm, otherwise he's perfect bond.

There was a supposed scene in this movie that takes place in a area that actually has dead human bodies, put on display. Anyways, that display has been here in Vancouver for the past 2 or 3 weeks. My friend checked it out and it is quite amazing with for example how they show a woman with or without breast cancer. The bodies were in different poses apparently. Unfortunately, no cameras allowed so she couldn't snap any pics for Escape. :(

Is that the Bodyworlds exhibit? That came through Boston reason...

Well I can only base this on the opinions of people I know, but there was a genuine huge demand for this film before release. Bond movies have always been an event in the UK but after the bitter after taste left by Die Another Day (which apparently grossed just half of what Casino Royale has achieved) people were very curious to see what an all new James Bond could deliver.

As for the "CraigNOTBond" campaign on the internet and in the tabloids, I'm really not sure just how much attention people were giving it. Obviously I heard a lot of that nonsense on the web but not once did I hear a member of the general public mention it.

To be honest I think it's success is mainly down to the film being just so darned good!

Yeah, that's it Sedai. Body Worlds 3 it's called at the exibit here at Science Word in Vancouver.


Yeah I mean when I read about the negativity towards this new bond, it was either reading the paper or hearing it on the tube but where did they get their souce to say this I'm now asking myself. Probably just a small minority with a loud voice. And yup, it really was a good flick wasn't it. :)

Thank god for this movie, it saved the francise.

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Sure not a lot of chatter on MoFo about this film.

I finally saw it over the weekend and at first I didn't much like it. For some reason though it never strayed far from my thoughts for the past few days so last night I rewatched it.

The initial impression I had was that Bond was more tough guy and less thinker and even "M" calls him a blunt instrument. I think what bugged me about the characterization was that there really was a lot going on inside of Bond's head and then I realized that the mis-characterization was intentional.

Some of the cinematography is reminiscent of the older films, particularly around the tropical hotel scenes. I really dug the look and feel and the accompanying sound track was also well done.

I guess I'll have to see Quantum of Solace to see if I really buy Daniel Craig as Bond.

Now that I'm starting to get over the past (i.e. Connery & Moore, didn't like Dalton or Brosnan) I think I'll be able to make room for Craig.

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the more I watch this movie the more I absolutely love these scenes in it. It may feel overdone at times, but man is it so much fun to watch! Love the revenge and emotion that was brought out in casino royale.

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Craig pulled it off!!

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This is among the best bond movies!

After all the controversy and comments on Daniel Craig's potential as an actor and doubts over him playing Bond...i'd say forget it and be enthralled by the new BOND! He's here to stay.

He has that natural feeling about him when you see him on the screen as Bond, that attitude, style, confidence matched only by Sean COnnery. The movie as a whole is extremely entertaining and exciting.The acting is awesome Eva Green actually does a great job and has really improved her acting from the last time i saw her (in kingdom of heaven), but then this is a totally different movie.

There's a lot of action mixed with great story which i am sure will please the true Bond fan.

There was never any doubt in my mind that Daniel Craig would make a sterling James Bond as I have seen most of his edgy, out of the box film roles in "Layer Cake," The Mother," Sylvia," "Munich," "Road to Perdition" to name several. Craig is and has always had weight, focus and importance on the screen. And as James Bond he brings all of these qualities to bear and "Casino Royale" is the better for it.

agreed....

Casino Royale was without a doubt the best Bond film to date. Not only that but I'll be as bold to say Daniel Craig is the best Bond yet. And that's saying a lot considering how mch I loved Connery.

So many fantastic action scenes in this movie from the opening chase scene in Madagascar over the water on the high beams to the airport scene with the terrorist.

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Have you seen all of the Bond films Gunny?


Agree with this statement...

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My nextdoor neighbor who considers himself a Bond expert (only because he owns the box sets) says Casino Royale is a terrible Bond film (he says because they don't play the right Bond card game, Daniel Craig is apparently blonde, Bond's character has no witty sayings, he doesn't get his martini shaken, etc). I told him that Bond's character was undeveloped to the point he was in the other films, hence his more aggressive attitude and lack of sense of humor, he had to lose his first love in order to become the Bond the other films portrayed. He said that was bollocks and that Quantum Of Solace was a better Bond film. I don't think I'm gonna talk to him anymore.

I dunno about THE best but it's probably in my top 5

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Well i think Casino Royale was a big improvement compared to the last few attemps on bond movies. The movie was a great movie, great story, cool cars , hot girls, great action all what a bond movie should be. Daniel Craig was fantastic playing James Bond he was so cool and carried the role of perfect, alot better than what Pierce Brosnan could do with it.



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plus she was pretty hot

ugh you could never forget her

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When I was growing up, kids my age would say Brosnan is the best Bond & his movies are the Best Bond movies.
These comments would usually make me feel like puking.

I love Casino Royale & just like winter, it would certainly be on my Top 5 Bond films as well..
But it's still a weak film, few decades from now it won't get so much attention.

Craig is definitely good as Bond, but mostly underused.. when they first announced he was going to be Bond, I wasn't all that happy as I was hoping Clive Owen would get the part. But then I saw Layer Cake, from then on I understood why'd he'd make a good Bond.

The problem with the new Bond films is that even though they have continuity, they get different directors, each director has a different vision for the character.
It works with the Harry Potter movies, coz none of the director grew up watching earlier different versions of Harry Potter movies to inspire a different style, also they have to be utmost faithful to the original material.
Most of the Bond movie fans have not read Flemings books.

Now we can only hope Sam Mendes does something brilliant with the next Bond film.

It'll save the franchise yet again. I wonder if you should write a book on the Bond films, sir

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I have hopes on Sam Mendes as well.

But let's not forget the guy who directed QoS directed Finding Neverland, Stay & Stranger than fiction.. He might not be the best director out there, but one would expect something decent from him.

I only hope Sam Mendes gets his creative freedom.. I'd really like to see what he can do with Craig as Bond. He directed one of my favourite Craig roles in Road to Perdition.

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Sam Mendes? What's he gonna do, have Bond struggle emotionally inside a self-inflicted suburban prison?

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lol.

But seriously, why not?

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If he wants to stick himself in a rut I'm sure he'd do something like that, but I don't think he'd do that for something that already has so much of its mythology established.


Unless it fits

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I think what made Casino Royale so popular and successful is that by instituting itself essentially as a prequel to all the other films in the series it was able to create some breathing room for creative license. This was a luxury no other film in the series was granted.

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I don't know. I'll always remember the cinematic Bond getting married in On Her Majesty's Secret Service which may well have the greatest Bond ending ever.

Yeah, you gotta be whacked outta your mind to say Casino Royale is a weak film. Now granted the last 25 minutes it starts to drag, but that's only because of the way they had to tie everything off. However, the action scenes are unmatched by any other Bond film, in my opinion. As already mentioned, the opening chase scene is superb, and it's easily ten times better than the opening from Quantum of Solace.

Affirmative.

Absolutely. They were incredible. That scene where he's chasing and fighting the tango on the truck at the airport is fantastic.

I think it's the best opening scene of any Bond film.

Daniel Craig is bad-ass.

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You said it my fine gentleman.


You deny it as a weak film & the only strong point you have mentioned about the movie is it's chase & action??
Which can be easily be topped in the future.

I have said this before & will say it again, People only consider Casino Royale because it's a film that pleases the modern filmgoers...
It's a film for the Bourne/Luc Besson generation... it doesn't have the technicolor spy campiness, over-the-top evil masterminds like the old Bond movies did..
& the only film you are drawing comparison to in your post is to QoS???

From Russia With Love is lightyears away as a better film than Casino Royale.

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i have rewatched this film yesterday and i have to say it is one of the best movies in the series, i like daniel craig a lot as james bond and he made his mark on the character, the story is really good in this and martin campbell always knows how to reinvent the franchise as he did in goldeneye. a superb film in the james bond series, very emotional aswell.

Casino Royale is a great film but it’s also a great novel, which helps. I love the noirish glamour, Vesper is the only great Bond girl that the Craig era has had (this has been one of the weakest aspects of the Craig era IMO- no iconic Bond girls). It’s a good intro to the series. I really rate Quantum of Solace- certainly the most interesting acting performance from Craig’s Bond, maybe because he had to come up with some of his own lines. There were also some witty moments, a good villain and no bloaty running time like Skyfall and Spectre. You really felt how broken Bond was.

i agree, casino royale is certainly the best one neck and neck with skyfall, loved that one a lot.

One of the most exciting Bond films, with great action scenes and an intriguing storyline.

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Does anyone agree with me that the gritty nature and the lack of gadgets made this film more of a jason bourne film?

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People have been calling this a Bourne knock-off since it came out.

It's certainly very low on classic Bond movie ingredients. And a more serious action / drama / thriller but nevertheless a great one. The Aston Martin, the chase scene, Mads and Eva Green make up for the lack of these ingredients. Much better movie than Jason B imho.

Recently posted a poll here on MoFo.
Which movie had the better chase scene; Point Break '91 vs Casino Royale, ended up a DRAW.

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Currently, Casino Royale's my favorite spy movie.

I remember hearing Bourne being mentioned more in relation to Quantum of Solace.

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The old Bond formula was getting weird. Movies like Die Another Day weren't meeting Bond standards, so reinventing Bond was quite late.

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Even though I like Casino Royale a lot better than Die Another Day, I didn't think that the Bond formula needed to be re-invented necessarily and the formula is still good. Still love CR though for what it is, and it's the best Craig Bond movie.

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It needed more of the bond sountrack , it felt lacking in that regard, the bond tunes are barely used, and it could have used a lot more gadgets, but very clever bond film plot wise, probably the best plot with skyfall

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It's been forever since I've watched Goldfinger so I can't say this with 100% certainly, but otherwise Casino Royale is the best spy movie I've ever seen. Because of Goldfinger's success the Bond films were getting cheesier every decade until they took weird turns like for Die Another Day. I like my spy movies mature and serious. Leave the cartoon logic to Spy Kids.


EDIT: I totally forgot I posted twice here.

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I love the fact that this thread was revived all the way back from 2006.

But yeah, I would say this is one of the best Bond films. Not my personal favourite (Tomorrow Never Dies) but still a modern classic.

i like tomorrow never dies a lot aswell

The reasons for that made sense though, and I did quite like You Know My Name and how it worked as an antecedent of the Bond theme.

One of the worst situations with the music was in Tomorrow Never Dies, because David Arnold obviously planned his score around the theme tune he expected to be used, Surrender, rather than the Sheryl Crow theme that is actually used.

I liked what David Arnold did but I thought by the time Quantum of Solace came round his music was sounding tired and lacking in ideas. I was happy there was a change for Skyfall.

while i do agree, but still the use of music in skyfall felt a bit not of a bond film, but rather a normal thriller under the name of 007, if u know what i mean, i do prefer the music used in the pierce brosnan movies, disregarding the fact that casino royale is a reboot, and james bond didn t get his 007 status yet

I liked that sense of intrigue about the Skyfall score – there were some fantastic parts in it. I said elsewhere that it reminded me of Vangelis's Blade Runner soundtrack at times.

I do!

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I saw some previews of the remake of "Casino Royale", and decided that I liked the old, original 1961 film version of "Casino Royale" best. Remakes of good, older films very seldom come out well.

Except most people don't even consider that one a proper adaptation for what I hear are many good reasons.

Casino Royale (2006)


This is my favorite 007 movies. Most Bond movies are generally entertaining, but not exactly great cinema. This movie actually tried to be a great work, and tried to tell a story for adults. This is the Bond film I would recommend to people who typically don't like silly action movies.

The movie is frontloaded with a lot of grand action sequences, which help set up for a more grounded 2nd or third act, that show that even simpler and minimalist scenes can still have a lot of tension.

Craig's performance is peak Bond. Danger, masculinity, with some charisma and romance. The cast is all-around stellar.

The key for this movie was choosing which conventions from previous Bond movies to keep (i.e. keeping Judi Dench as M) and which ones to cut (excessive gadgets). This movie uses Bond tropes where appropriate but doesn't try to force them.

For the previous Bond films, EON went with lesser known directors, but with this one, they went with Martin Campbell (who made Brosnan's Goldeneye), a director they know could help debut a new Bond actor and capitalize their strengths.

This was (relatively) more grounded and accurate to Fleming's source material, but also tied it into modern 2000's themes like terrorism to make it relevant, so it feels both like a classic Bond film and a modern action movie.

Rating: 9/10