Time Travel NEW Theory
 

I am doing a thesis project for film school, and I am hoping to do something which studies the nature of time travel... after a few years of thought on the subject I have come up with some rules which will more closely govern time travel and doesn't involve any tangent universe.

1) You can not travel into the future.

Reason being it doesn't exist yet. There is such thing as the past which are basically memories, and the present is constant. But if you travel back in time, and stay in the past for 12 days... you are then able to travel 12 days into the future from the Origin Point (The point in time you instigated a Time Leap). Time doesn't stop for you.

2) The Earth Rotates Around The Sun and is Always Moving.

If you instigate a Time Leap six months into the past, by that time the earth is basically going to be on the other side of the sun, where as you will come out at the exact same point in space... right into deep space. So make sure your time travel devise is a space ship as well. This does make Time Travel difficult.

3) You Must Condition Yourself, Your Mind for Time Travel.

If you go back in time, and do something which will effect anything which will hinder your time travel experience, E.G. the Grandfather Paradox... going back in time and killing your pop, therefore you cease to exist and new to travel back in time at all. If that happens then the Time Weaves will snap back in place to the ORIGIN POINT as if you never travel back in time (It will actually seem like you time machine don't work, by pushing the button and nothing happens). When this happens you should try condition your mentality in a way which will ensure you don't change past history. E.G. If you travel back in time 20 seconds... (Into the next room: Rule 2) and you see yourself then you might not even push the button. SNAP. Time falls back into place. But if you predict it, and push the button anyway upon seeing yourself, then you should instigate a successful Time Leap, of course then you will have to walk into the next room to see yourself push the button...

All these rules make Time Travel seem very complicated and delicate... believe me, I've tried and I'm still here. It is a very delicate process.

Any questions...

that was an interesting read. i don't really have any thoughts on the subject (at the moment...i am half asleep) but hopefully someone around here will jump on this subject and then at least i'll get a good read. cool post :D

Just how much paint do you drink in a typical day?

Why do you ask?

I see. Well if you do end up going back into time, make sure you go ahead and stop the moment(s) where your pop dropped you on your head.

No, you see, by stopping my father from dropping me on my head would dramatically change the course of history, and I probably won't go back in time, therefore it just won't work.

lol.......

what a maroon...

Still, I never thought about the idea of the planet moving. I did learn something from this guy.

yeah me neither.......um I don't know what he's asking either....do I agree? well kind of but I never really thought too much about it. Making movies about time travel usually annoy me a lot (Back to the future being the exception) because there are usually heaps of loop holes in the plot. It takes a lot of thinking like you said to get a movie to a point that people will take it seriously and care about the story, cause if the whole time travel aspect isn't believable (to some degree) then the audience won't care about the characters, plot, nothing ;)

Oh great, I've gone cross eyed!
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miaow....

I sent myself an email dated for yesterday, I got it today, is this time travel?

How exactly does Jean Claude Van Damme fit into all of this?

drink + we can olyu trave; into the future/....why, cause we have;t met anyone from the future. Hence we cannot trabrl to the past.

Yeah, so you just make a perfect mathematical calculation on when the Earth will be in that exact same position to when you first make that leap and it shouldnt be a problem. You just cant jump at will but perhaps years apart. I'll begin the math right now. Sombody else can build the machine and we arm wrestle to see who goes first. :cool:

I fell ya...my sf'odigj'iaodn:p :cool: :rolleyes: :p :D :D :D :D

Actually, people from the future could walk the earth amongst us, but if they told anybody who they are and how, obviously it would cause a Paradox, inventing time travel earlier than first intended, resulting in the future men not travelling back in time themselves when they did, and time snapping back in place... as per rule 3!

This topic was covered already by John Titor in his explorations of time. He states that his time machine had a gravity sensor that allowed it to move back in time and only attached itself to an object with the same gravitational force as the Earth's..Since the earth is the only planet in the entire solar system with 9.81 m/s^2 gravoty force, its a surefire plan.

you base your theory that you cant travel into the future because it doesnt exist by denying the possibility that all time is pre decided. Imagine a visible timeline and we're somewhere in the middle of it. All of our past decisions are visible on the timeline. Look forward along the line and what if our future decisions are written there. That would open the possibility of travelling into the future.

But I think you have interesting theories.

I find the whole idea of time travel fascinating... even though I have only had films to inspire me and to get me thinking. Your idea that the Earth is always moving and moving six months back in time will leave you on the opposite side of the sun to where the earth now is is a very interesting point.

I hope to come back for this tomorrow, I will soon be going to bed. Ignore these naysayers, fools that they are:)

You can time travel using astral-projection....

True. But in saying that we are leaving the realm of science, and entering the spiritual realm.

My friend has asked me if a certain senario is possible using these rules. Just imagine a time traveller reads the paper the day he is to test is new time travel devise. In the paper reads many articles of pain death, even a man getting hit by a bus... he thinks it would be good to go back and save these people when he travels back in time.

But time comes to test his new machine when he makes the leap successfully back about a day... and upon landing in his new timecode -1 day gets hit by a bus. This makes him the same guy to get hit by a bus he read about in the paper.

Is this possible?

OK I get it, that sounds interesting! However, most newspapers would state the person's name that was hit by a bus...

plus, if he goes back in time and then gets hit by the bus, then the whole scenario of him reading the newspaper would not exist...but, if he travels ahead in time, before being hit by the bus and reads this newspaper, then he could go back in time and save himself. But this wold totally change the whole plot and also, you stated that you can't travel ahead in time...lol If names are stated in the paper, he would know not to go back and try to save anybody because it is actually him who gets hit...does this make sense??? at all???

Well, I'm relatively new to the workings of time travel. However, if travelling back in time six months, the Earth would be on the other side of the sun. If the time machine only attached itself to something with as strong a pull as the earth, then wouldn't it be drawn through the sun towards the Earth, thus causing the termination of the time machine?

Or something like that. I'm just thinking out loud here.

Even if he read the newspaper or not he was going to travel back in time... so he does, and gets hit by a bus... but because he travelled back in time, there would now be TWO of him, the one originally living out his life, and the one getting hit by a bus and featuring in a newspaper. The first him still reads the newspaper because he doesn't get hit by the bus until he travels back in time.

Sorry about the drunk posts.

What you're saying here is what makes 12 Monkeys such an excellent movie.

What you're saying here is that life is not one line, but a circle.

You said that : In the paper reads many articles of pain death, even a man geting him by a bus..."

Did you mean hit, or him, meaning the guy reading the paper. Cause if you ment HIM, then no, because he would already be dead and not reading the paper.

It's HIT. And I have edited my post.

No worries about the drunk post, happens to the best of us... well not to me yet. Well I better get drinking, see you in 3 minutes!

Back To The Future Rules

If you're saying that BTTF is the coolest! Then I'm with you.

If your are saying my rules are like theirs then you are totally wrong... even though I think the films are great, I can not help but see the flaws in time travel.

I don't believe that actual time traveling can happen, but I can help you get the feeling of it. Just go to a local costume shop, buy a costume from a certain time period (perhaps even an imagined future), plan a party, send out party invitations, tell them to buy a costume from that time period, leave the door unlocked when the party is to begin, let them all come in, turn on some music, and dance, dance, dance, dance.... oh, and drink, drink, drink, drink, or do drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, whatever!

I have always had a problem with part three from when I first saw it whenever it was, 1990. Near the beginning in 1955 when they discovered that Doc was killed in 1885 and on the gravestone it says something about his beloved Clara. This is a problem because in 1885 she is only saved from falling into the ravine because Doc and Marty are checking out the uncompleted bridge.

When they discover about Doc's death while still in 1955 it was called Clayton Ravine because Marty had not yet gone back to 1885 and saved her from death.

Or have I missed something, quite likely:o

Then you must have hated part 2 because out of all 3 movies, that one has the biggest plot hole. If Marty and his girlfriend left the present to go to the future, they wouldn't exist in the future.;)

Nonono. To travel back in time, you just need to surround youself with trinkets of the era you wish to travel to, lock yourself in a room with said trinkets, and then hypnotise yourself.

And whatever you do, don't look at the print-dates on any spare change you may have carried on your person into the past.

it is a good point as from the moment they left in 1985 they would have been filed as missing persons...:o

It is that plot hole that always bugs me. Cause in this forums we talk about time travel... leaping instantly backwards and forwards through time... hense why I don't believe travelling to the future impossible. But when you think of it, the time travel described in H.G.Wells 'The Time Machine' is near perfect... except the fact realistically the same process going back in time isn't correct to myself... sure we can make a coccoon of electrons which conserve whatever is in it til we get to the future (However it happens to work) but going back in time... I don't know, just doesn't seem logical (thanks spock.)

Lets say A=me now and that B=me 5 mins ago, that would mean:

Well when you think about it...

But! Just maybe it is possible using the 'worm hole theory' Hawkins is so famous for (Well that or his cool wheelchair). These discussions are purely based on the rules applies if such a thing exists or will.

I kind of see where you are coming from, when we talk about Times, and Dates, and Years... that is merely expendable when it comes to space... time really is just how we measure the passage of existence. Time is merely a Man-Made concept, as is pop-tarts and roller disco.

Existance is just the random movement of objects, thoughts, feelings, anything tangable... or possible not tangable.

What I'm really say is, what happens happens, it's happened and will not happen again, and there is real no timeline that it gets 'Recorded' onto....

Get my drift?

I disagree entirely, I favor the alternate reality theories. all that aside however,

I see no reason why travel to the future would be impossible. time is relative, and our future is simply another generations past. why would it be impossible to travel to "our" relative future, when we would also be travelling to the past?

Re: Time Travel NEW Theory
 

I wish I could go back in time and re-live this whole post...it was so cool!