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Ðèstîñy 10-01-09 02:59 PM

100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 535279)
Hmm, sorry, I try to stick to semi-"official" lists. They have to be static and derived by some kind of film-related organization, generally.
I had a post/idea all ready to go, and saw that older post of your's. I don't know if there is a list like that for horror movies, but if there is, I bet the thing has a bunch of thrillers and sci-fi films in on it. I hate when they do that. There's a reason for the different genres. Frankenstein . . . Horror! Invasion of the Body Snatchers . . . Sci-fi! Psycho . . . Thriller! Saw . . . Vomit! :p

This was my post . . .

I still hope we can work up a Horror movie list.

Maybe we could work up a list of a top 50 to 100 horror movies. We will obviously have to compromise. There is no way we will love all the movies that are listed on a list like this. We could either do 50 classic horror films, and 50 (?) horror films, or just make one big horror list of 100 films. That may be a little tougher to do, though.

Anyway, if this hasn't been done yet, all the horror movie lovers of the board can chime in, and we can work up a list of 50 to 100 horror movies.

My question is, can we alter that rule just once, or should we get over having a horror movie list . . . or at least a decent one?

Yoda 10-01-09 03:09 PM

Re: MoFo Lists
 
I guess the rule isn't set in stone, but I think it's probably a pretty good idea. A snapshot of some fluctuating list from a moment in time seems a little less meaningful than something compiled or voted on a bit more seriously.

Surely, there has to be some kind of horror list, though? Not that I've come across a good one yet.

Ðèstîñy 10-01-09 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 571301)
Not that I've come across a good one yet.
That's the problem. I haven't seen one either. I trust us a hell of a lot more than those that I've seen.

How about the few of us that are interested in horror movies work together on the list, and then you decide after you see it?

Yoda 10-01-09 03:21 PM

Re: MoFo Lists
 
I'm okay with it, though I think the nominating/voting/selecting process would take an awful lot of work, and probably several different steps to make sure it's a good sample. But I'm certainly open-minded about it. I'm also optimistic that we'll find an outside alternative at some point, though.

Holden Pike 10-01-09 03:33 PM

That British Film Institute Screen Guide series has not gotten around to Horror yet, not in total, although they do have 100 European Horror Films. Obviously that's going to be incredibly comprehensive for what it is, but by not including the American or Asian titles especially it is less useful for MoFo purposes, perhaps.

http://filmstore.bfi.org.uk/acatalog...ean_horror.jpg http://filmstore.bfi.org.uk/acatalog...oad_movies.jpg http://filmstore.bfi.org.uk/acatalog/9781844572649.jpg http://filmstore.bfi.org.uk/acatalog/100_bollywood.jpg

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Don't have that European Horror in my personal library. In addition to 100 Westerns and 100 Film Noirs I also have 100 Road Movies and 100 Documentary Films from that BFI series of books. The other titles so far are 100 Anime, 100 Bollywood Films, 100 American Independent Films, 100 Shakespeare Films, 100 British Documentaries and 100 Modern Soundtracks.

Ðèstîñy 10-01-09 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 571306)
I'm okay with it, though I think the nominating/voting/selecting process would take an awful lot of work, and probably several different steps to make sure it's a good sample.
I'm up for it. Besides, it's October 1st . . . What a perfect time to start such a list.

I'm sure that there will be plenty of films on the list that I do not like, but I'm open minded, and will keep up with what is very popular, etc . . .

I'll work up a thread starter later today, or by tonight. The first thing we need to do, is decide who all should vote. I'm not trying to be unfair by limiting it, but my first thought is . . . If someone that hates most horror movies votes, or maybe they've just seen a handful of them, it will throw it all off quite a bit. We did this on another board, voting down our favorite films, and Holden pointed out how odd it was to vote against a bunch of films you've never seen. Once we hit the foreign section, a section I'm "really" behind on, I watched the hell out of them at You-tube. I wanted to make my votes fair. It's best to do a list like this the same way. I have an idea that may work. I'll be back . . .

Holden Pike 10-01-09 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 571315)
I'm up for it. Besides, it's October 1st . . . What a perfect time to start such a list.

I'm sure that there will be plenty of films on the list that I do not like, but I'm open minded, and will keep up with what is very popular, etc . . .
I'm up for the helping committee, however it winds up working, even though I'm no huge fan of the genre. But perhaps my eyes without an emotional stake in many of the titles will be of use when it comes time to make the tough calls on getting down to a hundred?

I think the BFI Screen Guide lists are a good guideline. They make sure to include the entire spectrum, and if we go in knowing we're going to set aside say at least forty to forty-five spots on the list for "oldies", meaning from the Silents up through say the first age of Hammer in the 1950s and '60s or so, decide ahead of time that no matter who does or doesn't consider "slasher" pics or "torture porn" as real true horror or not that we're going to include it for the sake of the list anyway, discuss whether we want to include genre benders like Alien or The Thing, make room for eight or ten from the 21st Century but try not to do much more than that, and to include flicks from around the whole world, etc.... I'm confident a group of us can come up with a decent, workable list of a hundred. Won't be easy, but it shouldn't be impossible.

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Ðèstîñy 10-01-09 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Holden Pike
I'm up for the helping committee, however it winds up working, even though I'm no huge fan of the genre. But perhaps my eyes without an emotional stake in many of the titles will be of use when it comes time to make the tough calls on getting down to a hundred?
Yep, you came to mind right away when I thought of this. I knew that horror was a least favorite genre of your's, so I wasn't sure if you'd care to join in on this. I love your opinion, though. As you know.

My idea was to use only those who considered horror movies a favorite. A top one to three in favorite genre. Something like that. Did I say that right? It doesn't matter now, anyway. Obviously that's not going to work. It's my favorite genre, of course. It's followed by Sci-fi, and then Thrillers/Noir. I'm pretty anal about how I split my movies up. If that isn't obvious to you by now . . . It will be. ;)

Originally Posted by Holden Pike
discuss whether we want to include genre benders like Alien or The Thing
One big reason I want those left off the list is because it's already going to be tough enough working the list down to 100, and since those are already on other lists . . . they had their moment . . . give someone else a shot. There's that, and then there's the fact that they're Sci-fi movies. :p

What?

I don't know if the other members consider Psycho a slasher, a thriller, a horror movie, or what, but again, he's already on a list. He's on the Thrills list . . . because it's a Thriller. This guy however . . .

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:K...28.preview.jpg

isn't on any list that I'm aware of, and I already know that he's loved by way too many people to be left off of this list if the votes go that way. Even though I hate his nasty ass.

Ðèstîñy 10-02-09 04:11 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
OK, to start things off, I need to know who all is interested in putting a horror movie list together?

So far I've got Holden. Anyone else? . . . Anyone? . . . Bueller? . . . Bueller? . . . Bueller? . . . Anyone? . . .

Holden Pike 10-02-09 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 571402)
One big reason I want those left off the list is because it's already going to be tough enough working the list down to 100, and since those are already on other lists . . . they had their moment . . . give someone else a shot. There's that, and then there's the fact that they're Sci-fi movies. :p

I don't know if the other members consider Psycho a slasher, a thriller, a horror movie, or what, but again, he's already on a list. He's on the Thrills list . . . because it's a Thriller. This guy however . . .

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:K...28.preview.jpg

isn't on any list that I'm aware of, and I already know that he's loved by way too many people to be left off of this list if the votes go that way. Even though I hate his nasty ass.
By that logic "our" Horror list also can't include Halloween, The Exorcist, Rosemary's Baby, The Shining, Carrie, Night of the Living Dead, The Omen, Poltergeist, Frankenstein (1931) or Dracula (1931). I think that's a mistake. So what if they're on another list or two? There are plenty of movies that are on multiple lists, but if you can't use those titles what kind of Horror list are we making?


Holden Pike 10-02-09 10:20 AM

And unlike the AFI lists, I definitely think the list should have Horror movies from all over the world, not just America. Hammer, Giallo, J-Horror, etc.

mark f 10-02-09 11:59 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I will participate, You also need Sir Toose, Used Future, r3port3r, 42nd St., etc.

Used Future 10-02-09 05:27 PM

Count me in.

igor_is_fugly 10-02-09 05:46 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Hell yeah! I'm in!

Yoda 10-02-09 05:50 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Ditto. :)

r3port3r66 10-02-09 06:13 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Me too! And I have no doubt Holden is a closet good horror movie fan (I seem to remember watching Let the Right One In on his recommendation [ ( a very good horror film)! True horror fans know truly good if not great horror movies--perhaps some you've never heard of.

Ðèstîñy 10-02-09 06:52 PM

I started this post roughly 6 hours ago. Ignore how slow I am . . .

Originally Posted by Holden Pike (Post 571504)
By that logic "our" Horror list also can't include Halloween, The Exorcist, Rosemary's Baby, The Shining, Carrie, Night of the Living Dead, The Omen, Poltergeist, Frankenstein (1931) or Dracula (1931). I think that's a mistake. So what if they're on another list or two?
No, I'm not saying that if they are on other lists, leave them off. I'm just referring to those that are actually Sci-fi movies, or Thrillers. I just tossed in the fact that they are on those lists already, because that's what they really are. I've just always hated when people mix those three genres up. Those up there are horror movies. They are to me, anyway. Maybe I look at it different than others, but to me, a horror movie is not possible. Killers that can't be killed, girls that get really pissed when you dump pig's blood on them, ghost (Please don't get religious on me, people), Satan knocking you up, etc . . . Aliens aren't possible either (Please don't get Star Trek on me, people.), and they are scary, but they are also Sci-fi. Multiple personalities are possible. You can have a guy that thinks he's his mother, go around killing people. Should I wrap that up in spoiler tags?

Originally Posted by Holden Pike (Post 571504)
what kind of Horror list are we making?
This kind right here . . .

Halloween, The Exorcist, Rosemary's Baby, The Shining, Carrie, Night of the Living Dead, The Omen, Poltergeist, Frankenstein (1931) or Dracula (1931).

I already had all of those, and a whole lot more, on my list.

I remembered a few of those being on the lists already, but I thought it was the 100 years, 100 movies, and the Watch before you die, or whatever it's called. Now I need to go see where some of those have been placed. It was probably the "Thrills" list. I hope that means that they thrill you when you watch them. Not that they are to be put in the Suspense Thrillers section. I said I was anal about it. Could you imagine how long I would last at Hollywood Video, before they'd fire me for moving a lot of them around.

I assume that once we get everyone that's interested in this on board, and the voting starts, I'll lose. I figure that's the best way to do it. We'll take a vote on if we should leave Sci-fi out, since there is already a Sci-fi list posted. (I just thought I'd toss that in there one more time. ;) )

Anyway, our biggest problem will probably be getting a bunch of the classics on the list. Especially silent films. I hope I'm just being negative with my thinking, but I know that a lot of people love today's horror remakes, and newer slasher films better. It seems that way, anyway.

Originally Posted by Holden Pike
And unlike the AFI lists, I definitely think the list should have Horror movies from all over the world, not just America. Hammer, Giallo, J-Horror, etc.
I totally agree. When the time comes, suggest away. Like I said, it's October. It's the perfect time of year to check out a bunch of new horror movies that I've never seen before.

r3port3r66 10-02-09 08:24 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Horror movie fans know what a horror movie is. See, I would almost consider Alien as a horror movie, but not Aliens. Alien did take the horror concept and place it in space. That said I can't think of any horror films that take place in space anyway. In order to be in space usually technology is so advanced that colonies or huge spaceships are home to the monster. Since no technologies exist of that nature now, I would consider it to be science fiction.

BUT, Frankenstein might--might be considered science fiction...hmmm...

Ðèstîñy 10-02-09 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by r3port3r66 (Post 571623)
Frankenstein might--might be considered science fiction...hmmm...
Not in my eyes. Aliens are Sci-fi. I'm referring to the little green men. Mr. Frankenstein's monster is just that . . . a monster. I relate monsters to horror movies, and aliens to Sci-fi.

As I've said, we'll keep it simple, and vote. I already assume how the vote will go, but we'll still do it.

Powdered Water 10-02-09 09:27 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
How do we start?

mark f 10-02-09 10:20 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Frankenstein is often considered the first sci-fi novel, but the movie is certainly horror. Dilemmas, dilemmas.

mark f 10-02-09 10:22 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Holden has a good list, although it's far from complete. Should we post and debate that or let everybody nominate 20 of their own? We'd probably need a lot more than 20 apiece to overcome the overlap, but we have some solid ones, although I want the specialists to chime in here. I know we need to add Let the Right One In to Holds' list. :)

Oh sorry, Dest, if I'm stepping on any toes here, but this list is definitely aimed toward older, classic flicks if you haven't seen it yet.

TheUsualSuspect 10-02-09 11:04 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Count me in. :yup:

Ðèstîñy 10-03-09 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Powdered Water (Post 571631)
How do we start?
I'm going to give this a tad bit of time to be noticed. Just two to three days. We'll see who all wants in. Not everyone makes it here during the weekend, or maybe they'll just overlook it. I'll see how quickly the list grows.

Go ahead and make your own personal list. Horror movies that you'd love to see on the list, but also movies that you truly believe belong on the list. Don't post them, though.

When I first posted this, I thought I'd have you all PM your lists to me, and then I'd keep track of them that way. I guess it's because I'm so use to that with all the games I've made. Anyway, I assumed maybe 5 or so people would be interested in this. It may be a lot more than that, so I'll hold off on the "how to" for now.

Lennon 10-03-09 02:03 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I'll do it, I fear I may not be much help, but ya know what Zombie movies, I love em, so I wanna make sure they get represented.

Ðèstîñy 10-03-09 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by mark f (Post 571636)
Holden has a good list, although it's far from complete.
I forgot to reply to this. I received the list, and I own 58 of them. I love my collection! I've seen a few others from it, and a few others sound interesting. I'll look into them very soon. Of course there's also a few that I hate, but like I said before, that's going to happen.

Again, if you would like to work up a list, go ahead. Hell, go ahead and send me what you think should be on it. Then, by the time it gets here, I'll have a heads start on this part. I feel pretty confident that we will all agree/compromise/be satisfied enough by the end results. Whatever you do, don't expect to love every single movie on the list.

Yeah, I'm pretty much wingin' it!

Iroquois 10-03-09 02:44 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I'm in.

Someone find Pyro and drag him in.

Ðèstîñy 10-03-09 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 571674)
Someone find Pyro and drag him in.
Yep, and I also want to know if Toose, and 42ndFreakStreet are interested.

Sexy Celebrity 10-03-09 07:40 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
What? I don't like horror movies?

Some that I think are absolute necessities are Halloween (1978), Psycho (1960), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974), A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984), Scream (1996)... and of course, you know, Dracula, Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein, the 1920's or 1930's Phantom of the Opera, the 1920's Nosferatu... Alien (1970 something), Night of the Living Dead (1968), Dawn of the Dead (1970 something)...

I personally would also like to see Hellraiser (1987)... The Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2... The Return of the Living Dead (1985), if possible, especially since I think that's the first time zombies craved just brains... I think An American Werewolf in London (1981?) would be good... Child's Play (1988)... maybe The Howling...

I would include Saw... oh, and of course, Friday the 13th (1980)... don't think we need to include any other sequels... The Blair Witch Project (1999).... The Fly (1980 something) would be good... Candyman (1992)...

Hmm... Suspiria (1970's), Ringu....

I think a lot of those are good choices.

Ðèstîñy 10-03-09 08:59 PM

Well, you all can discuss the movies here, but when you work up an actual list, please PM them to me. I want people's honest opinions on what they think should be on the list. Then I'm going to compare them, take numbers, and start asking opinions here.

As I said to start, we won't be voting them off, because that's been done on another board, and it didn't add up. Too often, people vote off movies they've never seen. That just doesn't seem fair.

Used Future 10-04-09 07:27 AM

Here are some I'd like to see make the list...

The Mask of Satan aka Black Sunday
The Innocents
Carnival of Souls
The Haunting (1963)
Repulsion
Rosemary's Baby
Night of the Living Dead (1968)
The Exorcist
Don't Look Now
Black Christmas
(1974)
The Wicker Man
(1973)
The Omen
(1976)
Carrie
Deep Red
Suspiria

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
(1974)
Dawn of the Dead
(1978)
Halloween
(1978)
Jaws
Alien
The Evil Dead
The Shining
(1980)
Dressed to Kill
Poltergeist
The Thing
(1982)
An American Werewolf in London
(even though I prefer The Howling)
The Fly
(1986)
Fright Night
Re-Animator
Dellamorte Dellamore
Misery
The Others
Let the Right One In


Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Used Future (Post 571902)
Here are some I'd like to see make the list...
Are you planning on making a list?

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 03:33 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
OK, it's been 3 days since I first brought this up. We have these members involved . . .

Ðèstîñy
Holden Pike
Mark F
Yoda
Used Future
Igor is Fugly
r3port3r66
Powdered Wawa
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity


I want you all to work up a top 100 horror movies list. I already have your's, Holden. Unless you've altered it some more. Anyway, get it as close to 100 as you can, and put them in order. Do not post them. PM them to me.

Used Future 10-04-09 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 571974)
Are you planning on making a list?
What I posted is pretty much it really. I haven't seen many horror movies that predate 1960 besides obvious stuff like Nosferatu, Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein, House on Haunted Hill, Invaders from Mars, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Them, The Thing from Another World, etc etc. I don't think it would be right for me to say what's best from that period because I've not seen enough.

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 05:29 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
So that's the order you think they should be in?

Used Future 10-04-09 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 571986)
So that's the order you think they should be in?
No, it's not in any order of preference. I posted before you asked for that, and it'd be much too agonising for me anyway. They're just films I'd like to see on the list :)

Pyro Tramp 10-04-09 05:48 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Yo-ho Mofos. I'm game.

Someone should give OG a holler, i've seen him post up a few decent lists over on his site. Worth a butchers.

From glancing through thread and if i get what plan is of 'us' making the list, i'm just hoping we can get in enough 'out-there' films in so it's a list we can all work off, not just immediately tick 90% off.

Pyro Tramp 10-04-09 05:55 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Here's list mentioned http://thevaultofhorror.blogspot.com...ve-spoken.html



1. Halloween (1978) dir: John Carpenter
2. The Exorcist (1973) dir: William Friedkin
3. Psycho (1960) dir: Alfred Hitchcock
4. Night of the Living Dead (1968) dir: George Romero
5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) dir: Tobe Hooper
6. Frankenstein (1931) dir: James Whale
7. The Shining (1980) dir: Stanley Kubrick
8. The Thing (1982) dir: John Carpenter
9. Alien (1979) dir: Ridley Scott
10. Nosferatu (1922) dir: F.W. Murnau
11. Dawn of the Dead (1978) dir: George Romero
12. Bride of Frankenstein (1935) dir: James Whale
13. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) dir: Wes Craven
14. Jaws (1975) dir: Steven Spielberg
15. The Blair Witch Project (1999) dir: Daniel Myrick & Eduardo Sanchez
16. The Haunting (1963) dir: Robert Wise
17. King Kong (1933) dir: Merian C. Cooper & Ernest B. Schoedsack
18. Rosemary’s Baby (1968) dir: Roman Polanski
19. Dracula (1931) dir: Todd Browning
20. The Evil Dead (1981) dir: Sam Raimi
21. Poltergeist (1982) dir: Tobe Hooper
22. Black Sunday (La Maschera del Demonio) (1960) dir: Mario Bava
23. The Phantom of the Opera (1925) dir: Rupert Julian
24. An American Werewolf in London (1980) dir: John Landis
25. Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) dir: Jack Arnold
26. Friday the 13th (1980) dir: Sean Cunningham
27. Evil Dead II (1988) dir: Sam Raimi
28. Alucarda (1978) dir: Juan Lopez Moctezuma
29. Carrie (1976) dir: Brian DePalma
30. Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992) dir: Francis Ford Coppola
31. The Fly (1986) dir: David Cronenberg
32. The Fog (1980) dir: John Carpenter
33. The Wolf Man (1941) dir: George Waggner
34. House on Haunted Hill (1959) dir: William Castle
35. Night of the Demon (1957) dir: Jacques Tourneur
36. Frankenstein (1910) dir: J. Searle Dawley
37. Dellamorte Dellamore (Cemetery Man) (1994) dir: Michele Soavi
38. Thriller (1983) dir: John Landis
39. The Addiction (1995) dir: Abel Ferrara
40. Aliens (1986) dir: James Cameron
41. Phantasm (1979) dir: Don Coscarelli
42. The Thing from Another World (1951) dir: Christian Nyby
43. Zombi 2 (1979) dir: Lucio Fulci
44. The Mist (2007) dir: Frank Darabont
45. Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983) dir: Jack Clayton
46. The Living Dead Girl (1982) dir: Jean Rollin
47. The Brain That Wouldn’t Die (1962) dir: Joseph Green
48. The Return of the Living Dead (1985) dir: Dan O’Bannon
49. Suspiria (1976) dir: Dario Argento
50. Salem’s Lot (1979) dir: Tobe Hooper

42ndStreetFreak 10-04-09 06:05 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Hmmmm......
Okay. I'm in. I shall think upon it.

"The Addiction" isn't even one of Ferrara's best films.
"Thriller"? A 25 odd minute music video. Damn good music video, but it can't even classify as a film due to length alone.
If you include this why not 30 minute episodes of TV shows. Also short, also not films and also done for TV showing.

And quite frankly I don't know anyone who would put the 'theatrical edit' of "Salem's Lot" on any best of lists!
And surely you can't include the multipart, TV mini series, version as a film!?

Blimey...Come on guys and gals, we can do better than this thing. :D

Wow there are some barely average things on that list. No better then the HMV list they ere so against.


As for what qualifies. I think Sci-Fi with obvious Horror elements can be included.

Just starting mine, and it is very depressing to have to put (original) after so many of them.

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Used Future (Post 571988)
No, it's not in any order of preference. I posted before you asked for that, and it'd be much too agonizing for me anyway. They're just films I'd like to see on the list :)
I assumed you all would know to number them, when I mentioned this a day or two ago, about you all PMing me a list. It's at the top of this page of posts. It really doesn't matter now. I have an idea, but first . . .

I have this one on mine, but I don't picture anyone giving a crap . . .

25. Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) dir: Jack Arnold

I have this one on mine, but I don't picture anyone knowing about it, or giving a crap . . .

47. The Brain That Wouldn’t Die (1962) dir: Joseph Green

I haven't seen this one mentioned, so I suppose no one likes it enough . . .

The Last Man on Earth (1964)

Originally Posted by Pyro Tramp
From glancing through thread and if i get what plan is of 'us' making the list, I'm just hoping we can get in enough 'out-there' films in so it's a list we can all work off, not just immediately tick 90% off.
I was hoping to get a list from each of you. Then we'd go from there. Not many people will be in on this, so it should be rather easy taking the lists, combining them from most mentioned, to least mentioned.

What I'm trying to say is . . . Everyone will send me a list of 100 horror films, or less if you have any trouble. I will make a list from that. I will put them in order from most mentioned, to least mentioned. Every last film that is mentioned will be on the list that I post, just in case someone forgets about some of them. We will then discuss that list, possibly view some of the films that people think need to be viewed before we do our new lists, and then everyone will send me an updated list that I will again total up from highest to least mentioned. I will post that, and I reckon we will see how everyone feels about that top 100.

Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Just starting mine, and it is very depressing to have to put (original) after so many of them.
I heard/read that!

Remember people . . . PM THEM TO ME!

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 07:45 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak
As for what qualifies. I think Sci-Fi with obvious Horror elements can be included.
I agree with that. It's just that true Sci-fi being tossed in is what I hate. Again, Alien is scary, but it's aliens. I just can't separate it. If it's science related, like The Fly, then of course I consider those horror, as well. I never mix thrillers with horror, though. I'm sure I'm confusing everyone. It doesn't matter now. I've decided to take the lists, as is, and average them out. That's why I don't want them posted. I want what you all think up on your own, and then we'll work from there.

42ndStreetFreak 10-04-09 07:51 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Just a question...

What about "The Crow"? Back from the dead, supernatural powers. Goth/Gothic horror styling?

Holden Pike 10-04-09 07:52 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Yeah, I didn't number mine. I put them in alphabetical order.

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak (Post 572006)
Just a question...What about "The Crow"? Back from the dead, supernatural powers. Goth/Gothic horror styling?
I came in too close to your post. I just mentioned that you all can name whatever you like. Whatever you believe should be on this list. Just make sure it's a PM.

Originally Posted by Holden Pike (Post 572008)
Yeah, I didn't number mine. I put them in alphabetical order.
That's right. I forgot about that.

Again, it won't matter now. I think this idea will work. We'll know soon enough.

beelzebubbles 10-04-09 07:57 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Destiny do you have a limit to the number of movies anyone can suggest in order to make it easier on you? I'll probably limit myself to twenty.

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebubbles (Post 572010)
Destiny do you have a limit to the number of movies anyone can suggest in order to make it easier on you? I'll probably limit myself to twenty.
If you think you can name 100 great horror movies, go for it. Just don't go past that. ;)

42ndStreetFreak 10-04-09 08:05 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Do we include TV things?

TV movies...for sure.
But TV episodes? TV miniseries', pop videos? (!)
Online I notice a few placings for "Salem's Lot"...but can we really include that in a list of films?

Man..Got to 50 and I am struggling. I can fill the other 50 places but to be honest I think thye would be films I like a great deal, love even, but would I really expect them to be the 'best'?
We shall troop on...

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak (Post 572014)
Do we include TV things?

TV movies...for sure.
But TV episodes? TV miniseries', pop videos? (!)
Online I notice a few placings for "Salem's Lot"...but can we really include that?
I would say no to the TV shows. As far as made for TV movies go, I'll let everyone jump in with their opinions. My opinion . . . As long as it's a movie, it's a go. What do you all think?

Powdered Water 10-04-09 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak (Post 572006)
Just a question...

What about "The Crow"? Back from the dead, supernatural powers. Goth/Gothic horror styling?
Great question. It's one of my very favorite movies and yet I wouldn't call it Horror, per se. Action/Thriller mostly, with supernatural tendencies. Helpful, aren't I? :)

Ðèstîñy 10-04-09 08:54 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I didn't directly answer your question about The Crow. Personally, I do have it in my horror section. I use to keep all of my favorite martial artist's movies in one big bunch, but I finally got over that, and moved them about.

Ðèstîñy 10-05-09 12:12 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
OK 42ndStreetFreak, I received your list. I own 40 movies from your's, and 58 from Holden's. Ignore me. I'm just having fun doing that.
You reminded me of a couple that I forgot. I'll add those to mine, for sure.

42ndStreetFreak 10-05-09 06:29 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Righto.

I have to say though that if people are going to do it, then they have to do 100.
Otherwise the whole thing is compromised, as a huge amount of films won't even get a look in.
50 is not enough really, and 20 is awful. I can guess what most of any persons 20 would be. We all could. It's pointless and tells us nothing.

We all know what films are going to be Top 10, even if we don't know the order.
The really interesting stuff comes from the tallying up of less well known, less obvious films that have, none the less, made a person's Top 100 list and are special to those who pick them.

for example I'm sure "Son of Frankenstein" will make some showing on the 100 list of those who have seen it. But it probably won;t be Top 20, or perhaps even Top 50. That will go to the "Frankenstein" and "Bride of".
But we already know those are going to make it...what's interesting is where "Son of" comes in the list. But it won't even have a chance with fans of it, if the list is a short one.

100 or nothing I say...as it gives films a chance, adds variety, introduces scale and representation and ultimately validity to the whole thing, and levels the playing field.

Pyro Tramp 10-05-09 03:29 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Ah i'd be for TV episode, can't be that many that would qualify but would love to see Tooms from X-Files, Hush from Buffy or an episode of Twin Peaks crop up, since this is OUR list and we're breaking some standard list rules for it- why not?

Also, 42nd makes a valid point. I'd want to see more obscure films on the list, maybe if we say you can't include any films already on other lists or just pinpoint the most obvious 20 so they don't need voting for and we can get some more range in.

I'm also up for posting lists, as i'm sure i'm not alone in finding making a comprehensive list off the cuff a bit bewildering, would like to see other lists so don't forget anything on my list

Some given flicks i guess most would include:

Dracula
Frankenstein
Halloween
Night of the Living Dead
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Jaws
Alien
The Shining
Exorcist
The Evil Dead
American Werewolf in London
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
The Thing
Carrie
King Kong


Personally, i wouldn't have included Psycho. Anyway, just an idea if we take an agreed selection out, if people only submit a list of like 20, there's going to be a variety. Would be intrigued to see if any franchise sequels make people's list once the originals are out.

Ðèstîñy 10-05-09 07:13 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Originally Posted by Pyro
I'm also up for posting lists, as i'm sure i'm not alone in finding making a comprehensive list off the cuff a bit bewildering, would like to see other lists so don't forget anything on my list
As I said, I'd total them up, and post them all, from most suggested, to least suggested. That way, if anyone forgets anything, they'd be reminded then. THEN we'd PM a second list that I'd total up again. It will help keep it all organized.

I agree with Psycho being left off, but not with using TV shows.

Anyone else?

Pyro Tramp 10-05-09 08:28 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Vote for TV shows? Part the fun is getting to see new things, TV show included

Ðèstîñy 10-05-09 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Pyro Tramp (Post 572261)
Vote for TV shows? Part the fun is getting to see new things, TV show included
Yes, but this is about movies. That's what all these lists are about. I think everyone should have a say in the matter. I'm not sure Yoda will want them on the list, and he does have the final say so . . . or at least I believe he does. He already bent the rule a lot by letting us attempt to create this thing.

Ðèstîñy 10-05-09 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by mark f (Post 571525)
You also need Sir Toose, Used Future, r3port3r, 42nd St., etc.
Three out of four from that list joined in. Unless Toose missed my note? Anyway, I suppose this will be it . . .

Ðèstîñy
Holden Pike
mark f
Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
r3port3r66
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity
Pyro Tramp
42ndStreetFreak
beelzebubbles


Can I get you all to go ahead and PM your lists to me?

beelzebubbles 10-05-09 11:15 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
How soon do you want our lists? I am still working on mine.

42ndStreetFreak 10-06-09 05:14 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
A Top 20 TV Horror list would be quite fun (as a separate thing though), and pretty unique.

I think we have to include the classics ("TCM", "Halloween" etc) in a best of list.
But that's okay as the large 100 choices you have means all those other films can get a major look in.
So we have a genuine 'best' list, but a comprehensive one that other lists would fall short of.

Iroquois 10-06-09 09:40 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
This is turning out to be a little harder than I thought. But whatever.

r3port3r66 10-06-09 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 572285)
Three out of four from that list joined in. Unless Toose missed my note? Anyway, I suppose this will be it . . .


...r3port3r66...


Can I get you all to go ahead and PM your lists to me?
I'm working on it...

42ndStreetFreak 10-06-09 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 572356)
This is turning out to be a little harder than I thought. But whatever.
It is a struggle! After 50 it's pretty much the films you love...as opposed to those you would consider, generally, as great horror cinema.

But hell, it's going to be nice to see some of the lesser known/under-appreciated stuff get a bit of status for once!

Ðèstîñy 10-06-09 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebubbles (Post 572289)
How soon do you want our lists? I am still working on mine.
Don't rush to make it, but don't close the notepad for a week, either. ;)

Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak (Post 572326)
A Top 20 TV Horror list would be quite fun (as a separate thing though), and pretty unique.
Actually, a top 100 TV shows of all time would be neat, but I'll let someone else jump in on that.

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 572356)
This is turning out to be a little harder than I thought. But whatever.
Coming up with 100 movies? Just come as close as you can.

Originally Posted by r3port3r66 (Post 572400)
I'm working on it...
Thanks!

Mark, you're going to make one too, right? I know that you and Holden worked on one together, but it will add to the votes, and your list is probably a tad bit different than his.

I know I've had a couple of people (One, anyway!) agree with me on movies like Psycho not belonging, but **** it. Add whatever you want. I'll do the numbers as soon as I get all of your lists . . . Unless you take forever to PM them to me. Then I'll add them up without your's. Why? Because I'm evil.

Later on, you'll be able to add the movie Medical Massacre to your list. It's about a bunch of stupid doctors that are brutally killed. Why? Because I said so.

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done, I reckon!
mark f
Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
r3port3r66
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity
Pyro Tramp
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles

Ðèstîñy 10-06-09 10:46 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done, I reckon!
mark f
Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
r3port3r66
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity
Pyro Tramp
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!

Remember, it doesn't have to be 100 movies. Just as many as you can think of.

Powdered Water 10-06-09 11:10 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I'll try to get mine to you before Sunday. Oh god, now I'm under pressure! This is why I quit school. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Nevermind!

Ðèstîñy 10-07-09 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Powdered Water (Post 572594)
I'll try to get mine to you before Sunday. Oh god, now I'm under pressure! This is why I quit school. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Nevermind!
They are not due by then, so don't rush. Just don't put them on the back burner, and forgot about them for a month or so, either. I'm not trying to rush anyone, honestly. I was starting this at a slow pace. I had it all in my head how I wanted to do this, and I posted what was first, second, and so on. Then movie titles started getting posted. This is running about as smooth as my theme week thread.

Anyway, because of the rush that was put on it, some of what I've said has gotten mixed up in my head/what I've posted, and some things are getting missed by you all. Here is what I want/posted on page 2 . . .

Everyone will send me a list of 100 horror films, or less if you have any trouble. I will make a list from that. I will put them in order from most mentioned, to least mentioned. Every last film that is mentioned will be on the list that I post, just in case someone forgets about some of them. We will then discuss that list, possibly view some of the films that people think need to be viewed before we do our new lists, and then everyone will send me an updated list that I will again total up from most to least mentioned. I will post that list, and I reckon we will see how everyone feels about that top 100.

r3port3r66 10-07-09 11:29 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Thanks Destiny. You're doing so much work, and this is a list close to my heart. Thanks again.

Ðèstîñy 10-08-09 03:11 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
You're welcome! :)

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done!
mark f ~ Done!
Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
r3port3r66
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity
Pyro Tramp

Five list done, but ten to go.

Pyro Tramp 10-08-09 02:59 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Didn't quite make #100 but left out some obvious choices that knew others would pick up. Was surprised at my list

Ðèstîñy 10-08-09 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Pyro Tramp (Post 573054)
Didn't quite make #100 but left out some obvious choices that knew others would pick up. Was surprised at my list
That will throw the numbers off, though. I'm wanting every movie you truly believe should be on a top 100. Then I list them from most mentioned, to least mentioned. Then I post that. Everyone updates their list, I redo the totals, and we go from there. I'll post them all again, from least mentioned, to most mentioned, but we will focus on that top 100. Argue, watch, discuss, hate each other . . .

Pyro Tramp 10-08-09 03:23 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Ok, i'll PM the rest to you. Only been able to read like the odd post with computer in state it's currently in

r3port3r66 10-08-09 08:19 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Almost done....

Ðèstîñy 10-08-09 11:04 PM

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done!
mark f ~ Done!
Pyro Tramp ~ Done!
r3port3r66 ~ Pert near done!

Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity

Ðèstîñy 10-11-09 12:53 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I'd like to get these totaled up sometime this week.

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done!
mark f ~ Done!
Pyro Tramp ~ Done!
r3port3r66 ~ Pert near done!
honeykid ~ Halfway done!

Still need lists from . . .

Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity

Powdered Water 10-11-09 01:06 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I won't get mine to you today Des, but it should be in the next day or so. I have a pretty good group and need to finish it off.

Ðèstîñy 10-11-09 01:18 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
OK, that'll work. Thanks!

honeykid 10-11-09 02:33 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I've just got some tinkering to do and I'm done too. I'll probably get to to you tomorrow.

Ðèstîñy 10-11-09 03:07 PM

OK! Thanks, honeykid!

Originally Posted by Used Future (Post 571984)
What I posted is pretty much it really.
I still need a finished list from you. As I said above your post, "please PM them". Also, below that post, you added . . . "I haven't seen many horror movies that predate 1960 besides obvious stuff like Nosferatu, Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein ..."

I still need a finished list, so that when I add them up from most mentioned to least mentioned, it's complete/fair. I can't just assume that you've seen them all, or what you've seen, and add them up that way. You also said "I don't think it would be right for me to say what's best from that period because I've not seen enough." This is a complete list of the best horror movies ever. None of us have seen every single movie, so we make a list from what we have seen, and go from there. I most definitely need the best of the classics from you, as well. From every last horror film that you've seen, what all do you believe should make the list?

Again, PM this to me when you're done.

Sexy Celebrity, you were the reason I posted the "PM them to me" post. You listed a bunch of movies that you like. You still need to work up a "complete" list, and PM it to me.

Caitlyn 10-11-09 10:45 PM

I'm late to the party (as usual) but I can work up a list and send it in the next few days if it will help...

Ðèstîñy 10-11-09 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Caitlyn (Post 573875)
I'm late to the party (as usual) but I can work up a list and send it in the next few days if it will help...
Fabulous! I'd love to see all your favorites, anyway. :yup:

Caitlyn 10-11-09 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 573877)
Fabulous! I'd love to see all your favorites, anyway. :yup:

Cool... I'm working on it... :)

Powdered Water 10-11-09 11:53 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
Wow, that was tough. My list is pure awesomeness though. Not a clinker in the bunch. :nope:

Ðèstîñy 10-12-09 12:09 AM

I must rep you here for such a neat list. It was so organized. The way you typed it out, with (the year, director, a.k.a.) . . .
I only own 44 of them, but yes, it's a very nice list. Great work!
I'll have to slip in an extra rep someplace else on the board for that other thing. Yeah, you know what. :p

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done!
mark f ~ Done!
Pyro Tramp ~ Done!
Powdered Water ~ Done!
r3port3r66 ~ Pert near done!
honeykid ~ Halfway done!
Caitlyn ~ Working on it!
Yoda ~ Working on it!
Lennon ~ Working on it!
TheUsualSuspect ~ Working on it!
Iroquois ~ Working on it!

Still need to hear from . . .

Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Sexy Celebrity

Powdered Water 10-12-09 12:18 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I own them all in one form or another. I think I like Horror movies.

Ðèstîñy 10-12-09 12:21 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
You just may. ;) I use to own more Comedy than anything, but Horror is miles ahead of it now. Toss Sci-fi and Thrillers/Noir in there, and it's an insane amount.

Ðèstîñy 10-12-09 03:42 AM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I forgot all about Prospero, until awhile ago. Hopefully he's interested. I PMed him. I would love to see his list.

Sir Toose 10-12-09 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ðèstîñy (Post 572285)
Three out of four from that list joined in. Unless Toose missed my note? Anyway, I suppose this will be it . . .

Ðèstîñy
Holden Pike
mark f
Used Future
igor_is_fugly
Yoda
r3port3r66
Powdered Water
TheUsualSuspect
Lennon
Iroquois
Sexy Celebrity
Pyro Tramp
42ndStreetFreak
beelzebubbles


Can I get you all to go ahead and PM your lists to me?
Got it. Been lethargic and apathetic as of late but i'll pull one together and PM it to you.

Sexy Celebrity 10-12-09 05:01 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
75 recommendations from me are in.

Sexy Celebrity 10-12-09 05:19 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
And another 25.

Ðèstîñy 10-12-09 07:01 PM

Re: 100 Years... 100 Horror Movies
 
I just got home, and looked over them. I own 62 from your lists. That's the most so far.

Why am I adding them up?

Cause!

Thanks for the list, Sexy!

Ðèstîñy 10-12-09 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Toose (Post 574007)
Got it. Been lethargic and apathetic as of late but i'll pull one together and PM it to you.
Oh, OK! I started to worry about that. Usually when someone doesn't answer me, I take it as a "**** off!" :p

I can't wait to see your devilish list. I believe we like a lot of the same horror movies. Apparently Sexy and I do, too.

Yes, I'm double posting . . . and I don't care . . .

Ðèstîñy 10-13-09 12:07 PM

Ðèstîñy ~ Done!
42ndStreetFreak ~ Done!
beelzebubbles ~ Done!
Holden Pike ~ Done!
mark f ~ Done!
Pyro Tramp ~ Done!
Powdered Water ~ Done!
honeykid ~ Done!
Sexy Celebrity ~ Done!

r3port3r66 ~ Pert near done!
Caitlyn ~ Working on it!
Yoda ~ Working on it!
Lennon ~ Working on it!
TheUsualSuspect ~ Working on it!
Iroquois ~ Working on it!

Still need to hear from . . .

igor_is_fugly

Caitlyn 10-13-09 12:22 PM

Just sent you mine... I almost made it to 100... give me a yell if you need some crackers to go with the cheese... ;)

Sir Toose 10-14-09 01:35 PM

Almost done with mine.

It's long and will likely have many that people wouldn't vote for.

Also, There are some questionable ones on there.

I wanted to put Play Misty for Me on my list, for example, because it certainly contains elements of horror (cautionary tale of casual sex and its consequences) but is more of a crime thriller. The slashing and the cat and mouse stalking game though... not much different from, say, a Scream movie (just no iconic killer type).

I think horror is hard to nail down because even horror only has certain elements in it that are 'horrific'. The rest of the time they incorporate drama, comedy, romance etc to set a mood. Good horror works all of that in and then throws a monkey wrench into the works to break down the facades of 'happiness' or 'romance' or what have you. It's almost like a good horror film has to work hard to set up a idyllic situation so it can set about tearing it down.

When my wife makes me watch Romantic Comedy I'm always thinking of where in the story I'd introduce the psycho, monster, zombie etc. :D

Caitlyn 10-14-09 01:45 PM

I had the same problem trying to decide on a few... and know I have some on my list that many wouldn't vote for... I did enjoy making the list though... and discovered I like horror more than I thought... just not the newer slasher type horror. I've seen too much stuff from work to find those kind of movies entertaining...

Caitlyn 10-14-09 01:47 PM

BTW Toosie... have you ever seen Häxan?

Sir Toose 10-14-09 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Caitlyn (Post 574444)
BTW Toosie... have you ever seen Häxan?
It's on my list... I own it!

Sir Toose 10-14-09 02:47 PM

Okay, sumbitted.

Caitlyn 10-14-09 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Toose (Post 574445)
It's on my list... I own it!

:up: It's on my list too... creepy as hell isn't it... I don't own it but just added it to my Amazon list to order...

Sir Toose 10-14-09 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Caitlyn (Post 574451)
:up: It's on my list too... creepy as hell isn't it... I don't own it but just added it to my Amazon list to order...
It is... really surprised me the first time I saw it.

You can get it here for free (and legally) though it's low quality and user tinted. Still good though.


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