Rambo: Last Blood
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Ever since Stallone was nominated for that Oscar for his performance as Rocky in 2015's Creed, the chance of him redeeming himself as an actor in serious original films has sadly become slimmer and slimmer with every year that passed.
Since then, he's done not 1, but 2 unnecessary sequels to the mediocre Escape Plan (both have yet to be released), reprised his iconic role of Rocky yet again (the 8th time) in the upcoming Creed 2. And now, it's being confirmed that he will reprise his other iconic role of John Rambo yet again in a fifth installment. I'm a Stallone fan (no surprise there), and I would love to see him in original movies (helmed by the likes of Tarantino, Scorsese...), playing interesting characters that are not necessarily action heroes and musclemen. I guess that's not happening. And I'm pretty disappointed. |
Strange – I thought this had been dropped completely. The plot sounds good but action-wise the fourth one's going to take some beating :D.
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I can't wait for Rocky 25 when Clubber Lang finally gets his re-match. I'll keep watching these I reckon. His chances are getting slimmer for an Oscar tho? 2015 was only 3 years ago, yeah? He could easily still win a few of the things if he stays alive. You know he basically wrote, starred and mostly directed the first Rocky? It's true, you can look it up. Oscar winning flick that one. So, does he need a serious role? I bet if you asked him he'd say Rocky is a pretty serious character to him. Maybe he just enjoys the work. He gets to work with a lot guys that he used to be in direct competition for stardom back in the day too. Would be cool to see him a QT flick tho. Have you seen Copland @mojofilter? I kinda think he's already done a little dramatic work. And he's been recognized. Maybe he's just gonna stay in his comfort zone till he dies.
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looks bad Sly
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Originally Posted by Powdered Water (Post 1897570)
I can't wait for Rocky 25 when Clubber Lang finally gets his re-match. I'll keep watching these I reckon. His chances are getting slimmer for an Oscar tho? 2015 was only 3 years ago, yeah? He could easily still win a few of the things if he stays alive. You know he basically wrote, starred and mostly directed the first Rocky? It's true, you can look it up. Oscar winning flick that one. So, does he need a serious role? I bet if you asked him he'd say Rocky is a pretty serious character to him. Maybe he just enjoys the work. He gets to work with a lot guys that he used to be in direct competition for stardom back in the day too. Would be cool to see him a QT flick tho. Have you seen Copland @mojofilter? I kinda think he's already done a little dramatic work. And he's been recognized. Maybe he's just gonna stay in his comfort zone till he dies.
I won't hold my breath anymore for any breathtaking performances by him, and it sure looks like he'll continue to recycle his famous roles until he dies. I'm sure that after the fifth Rambo, he'll be doing another Expendables and possibly another Creed film. Sad! |
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I like him a lot in cop land
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Originally Posted by rambond (Post 1897795)
I like him a lot in cop land
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Rambo V was originally going to be a ****ing MONSTER MOVIE. WHY WASN'T THIS DONE?!?!?!?!
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Ha, that would be a hoot!
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Rambo Vs Alien Vs Predator Vs Freddy Vs Jason???
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sly is never to tied to make some good movie
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From what I can gather from the special features on the original Rambo films, the story they're using for Rambo 5, based around a kidnapping by the Mexican Cartel, was going to be used for Rambo 4.
Rambo 4 ended up as a bunch of charity workers captured by a Burmese despot. So basically Rambo 2, 3, 4 and 5 are going to be the same film, just set in different countries. |
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Can't say I'm too shocked by that, people love the whole Reaganite power fantasy of the ultimate soldier wiping out America's enemies on whatever pretext makes him look most sympathetic to everyone (he's traumatised! the CIA betrayed him! he's saving Americans! he's saving good foreigners from bad foreigners!). That's without mentioning how certain recent geopolitical events have made the prospect of a whole movie about Rambo killing Mexicans seem especially ugly.
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Rambo V has officially started shooting today.
Here are the first 2 images from behind the scenes of the film posted by Sylvester Stallone himself on his Instagram. https://i2.wp.com/stallonezone.com/z...size=500%2C628 https://i2.wp.com/stallonezone.com/z...size=500%2C500 |
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Rambo: Ranch Retirement.
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Djambo Unchained.
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Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1955662)
Djambo Unchained.
I'd actually see this, as long as it isn't the same mess that was John Rambo back some year ago. Looks like he's ready for some comedy? |
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Previous Rambo was great but those pictures don't look too promising. We'll see.
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Looks more like a beat-em-up video game for me.
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A new image from the set of Rambo V posted by Sly himself on Instagram
https://scontent-lhr3-1.cdninstagram...97068315_n.jpg |
Another image posted by Sly on Instagram showing Rambo looking at his knife.
http://craigzablo.proboards.com/thre...-videos?page=1 |
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...allone-1149003
Paz Vega has joined the cast as a journalist whose younger half-sister is the one Rambo must rescue. |
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The film is officially called Rambo: Last Blood.
This fifth and seemingly final feature in the saga finds the war vet coping with intense PTSD while living on a ranch in Arizona, trying to pick up casual work wherever he can. Soon his friend and estate manager Maria informs him that her granddaughter went missing after crossing into Mexico for a party, so John travels south of the border to find her – soon uncovering a sex-trafficking ring and teaming up with a journalist for help. Adrian Grunberg helms the film opening next year. Sergio Peris-Mencheta has been cast as the lead villain of the film. |
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Stallone Tweeted this with a tagline...
https://i.imgur.com/xmzTEGJ.jpg "Death is coming your way... and there is nothing in this world you can do to stop it." |
Yes – I need more arrow scenes in my life :).
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https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/...-release-date/
Rambo V: Last Blood gets a release date. September 20, 2019 |
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1974860)
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Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 1993135)
Excellent poster idea — just a shame that the film appears to be garbage.
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Rambo Hood.
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I think the movie Green Zone would have been great as a Rambo movie script wise, and I think in order for Rambo to continue they need to set him in the current political war situation, and not movies about Mexicans or Burmese or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by SeeingisBelieving (Post 1993135)
Excellent poster idea — just a shame that the film appears to be garbage.
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Originally Posted by mojofilter (Post 1993151)
What does Robin Hood have to do with Rambo?? :confusedwhite:
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I am nervous about the film
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This looks terrible, they need to let Rambo die already. Rambo III should have been the last one.
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Is Rambo going to train Michael B. Jordan to be his successor?
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You know what show I'd love my future kids to see? Reading Rambo.
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RAMBO 5: Last Blood Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ5kILQxGZQ |
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I had my doubts, but after seeing that trailer....I'm excited.
Stallone is the ultimate action movie badass! Bring this on! |
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I question his lack of mullet and headband, though I suppose he got rid of them as he finally found peace at home and they are ostensibly symbolic of his battle experiences.
I can't say I'm too fussed by how it looks, though hopefully the "last" part means they do send him out on a (relatively) high note rather than have it play like just another adventure like the previous one (supposed finality of him going home be damned). I'll probably end up seeing it anyway. |
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Has a Logan vibe.
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The vibe I got was Blood Father, which is...not ideal.
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Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 2015152)
The vibe I got was Blood Father, which is...not ideal.
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Yeah, I had some fun with it but it doesn't hold up in retrospect. Essentially a B-movie where he faces off against the Cartel, which is what Last Blood unfortunately looks like.
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Such a good title.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPuhNtG47M0
He's bigger, he's badder, and probably got a 3am bladder. |
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Loved it.
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Loved it ²
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The film seems like advertisement of Trump's wall on the border of Mexico . Mexicans are shown to be lawless and violent , and the PC brigade is going to hate the film big time . I didn't like it for other reasons . Here's my experience of the film---
Walked halfway out of screening of 'Rambo : last blood' .
Basically it's the same scenario of Liam Neeson's 'Taken' series of movies---that of rescuing a beleaguered young girl related to the older hero from human traffickers . In 'Taken' series Liam rescues his own daughter and here Sylvester Stallone plays a role of rescuing his foster niece . The girl is of Mexican origin and has been dumped by her father after her mother died . She is growing up now in a ranch in Arizona in USA under care of John Rambo and her grandmother . All of a sudden she develops an itch to meet her father and despite warnings that he doesn't care for her and that it is dangerous for a girl of seventeen to go alone to Mexico , she drives all alone to Mexico . Even though she has been told that the girl who promised her to meet up with her father is a bad girl . Then why does she go ? Obviously the moviemakers could not think of anything intelligent as reason for her to fall in trouble . So a lame reason was invented . Predictably , the girl who enticed her to Mexico sells her off to a brothel . I could see this coming . So what's new....don't all guardians of girls who are going into lawless territory worry about this only ? So old Rambo has to once again get ready his guns and his trusted knife and drive down to Mexico . Before this happens he is shown living in a series of tunnels in the ranch . He is still afflicted by visions of what happened to him in Vietnam decades ago and has to take pills to ward off those visions . Once Rambo reaches Mexico he directly goes into the liar of the human traffickers searching for his foster niece and gets surrounded and beaten and brutally slashed on his face by a knife . Meanwhile rapists have been let loose like wild dogs on his niece and other kidnapped girls and the niece is drugged by injection . So Rambo's and his niece's condition is presumably going to get worse before it gets better . But I didn't wait for it to get better and walked out because for a person used to watching Bollywood , films on kidnapped girls forced into brothels is regular fare ; nothing new at all . In all probability old plodding Rambo will still show the capacity for unleashing mayhem full of blood and gore later in the film . But until now I was neither enthused by Sly's acting nor by the first half of the movie. Never ever reviewed a Rambo series movie before but this was the worst---at least the part I saw . |
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To be fair that's been the nature of Rambo since the sequels started hasn't it? looking for some foreign nemesis's to take down and Mexican drug cartels have been the enemy of choice in this kind of film for years before Trump.
In its favour I would say its the first time since the original that there's been much effort to show Rambo as genuinely messed up. If theres any recent influence here I would say its arguably Lynn Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here, I mean its far more straight forward and melodramatic than that film but still a bit of a sense of an unhinged man beating up sex traffickers with a hammer rather than only being a standard heroic story. |
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This one doesn't look that good to be honest and Stallone might really be just too old for this one.
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It's not good.
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Just watched it. For me, it was slightly disappointing. Some parts felt too rushed.
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I'm a big Stallone fan and I was highly disappointed in this one, and I watched with very low expectations. It had nothing of importance to say. You'd think after Sly revisited Rocky successfully in the Creed movies, developing the character further into his older years, that he'd do the same with his second iconic role, but no. There is no character development, the entire plot was ludicrous, and the movie overall was completely unnecessary.
The only thing great about the movie was the performance of Yvette Monreal, the beautiful young actress who I think has a bright future ahead of her. |
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I was thinking of seeing it but everyone talks about how terrible it is and don't waste your time. But a lot of people say that about the other First Blood sequels as well? So is this one actually worse than the other sequels, or are they about the same, and maybe I wouldn't think it was that bad then?
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I would say it's worse, especially by the standards of the other sequels.
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Oh okay. Thanks, good to know. My favorite sequel has always been Rambo III, but fans always thought that was the worst of the sequels, so I wasn't sure if I would like Last Blood or not.
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Last Blood's a generic revenge movie.
Basically it's the same as Taken, but unlike Taken the main character does actually get hurt. Only for a few minutes though. Then he's back to a relentless march of victory. The best sequel in the series is Rambo (2008). - First Blood - Rambo (2008) - First Blood: Part 2 - Rambo 3 - Rambo: Last Blood |
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A lot of people say that the best sequel is Rambo (2008), but I've always thought of it as the worst sequel. Mostly because it just felt like Rambo III all over again, with Rambo in Thailand again, and someone comes to ask him to come on a mission, he refuses, those people get captured, so then he feels bad and goes and rescues them. But it feels like such a rehash of it. They even have the same climax, where Rambo is shooting at all the enemy but is outnumbered and is going to be doomed, but then a group of rebels comes to save him and the others, just like in the third movie.
Buy why do a lot of fans think of it as the best sequel? Having not seen Last Blood, here's my order: 1. First Blood 2. Rambo III 3. Rambo: First Blood Part 2 4. Rambo As for the Last Blood, I read that the movie Homefront (2013), which I saw, was originally a Rambo script, but was retooled to be an original movie. But when I watch the trailer for Last Blood, it looks like they just did the same script again. Unless I am wrong and it's a different original script? |
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Homefront was based on Stallone's script, which was based on the original novel, but he handed the role to Statham instead.
The idea for Last Blood though, a family member kidnapped by drug lords, was going to be used for Rambo (2008). I can't remember if it was an interview or a DVD commentary, Stallone talks about how Rambo 4 was going to be about saving a family member from drug runners and criminals. I've got a feeling it was a commentary he did for the First Blood, long before Rambo (2008) was made. The reason Rambo (2008) got made the way it did though was because Stallone heard about the Karen People and their struggles. He wanted to show the world what's going on in Burma. The 2008 movie though, is the first time we see Rambo as part of a team, and that team also initially treats him as some kind of old and decrepit has-been. Rambo has an arc with the 2008 movie that reaches back to the original. Is he past his prime? Is he a remnant of an old style of war? Is he no longer useful? Is he still broken? Has he finally had enough of war and death? And is it still possible for him to actually care about anything or anyone anymore? The original script for the 2008 movie about drug dealers and kidnapped family members, was then dug up and partially used for Last Blood after Homefront got a warm reception. I think they only halfheartedly rejigged the script though, which is why Last Blood ended up so generic. |
Oh okay, but I thought that Rambo had already gone through this similar arc by the end of Rambo III. So I thought that when I saw Rambo (2008), he was just redoing the same arc we saw before, as if Rambo III hadn't happened.
A question I also have about Rambo (2008), is why is that that when the missionaries were taken prisoner by the Burmese army, what did the army want with them? Were they going to hold them for ransom and try to ransom the US for them? |
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The missionaries didn't belong there. Simple as.
Also, they were helping local tribes and people... and the despots in charge don't like that. They like to be in control. Keeping the people down, sick and poor, gives the bad guys power... and the missionaries coming in and helping the people just simply won't do. The reason a few of them were kept alive is simply to torture them. As Rambo explains as well to the missionaries when he's taking them into the jungle, and he has to kill some of the military guys, he did it because they would have simply tortured everyone, raped the women, and then when they're finished, they'd just kill them. If you want an answer as to why the bad guys behave that way... there is no reason. It's based on reality. Actual atrocities happening in Burma as we type. |
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You know what's weird about all this?
I got in the mood to watch Rambo (2008) now... and just as I flicked through my TV's EPG, the movie is on telly in about 2 hours from now :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: |
Yeah that's weird lol :)
Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 2091730)
The missionaries didn't belong there. Simple as.
Also, they were helping local tribes and people... and the despots in charge don't like that. They like to be in control. Keeping the people down, sick and poor, gives the bad guys power... and the missionaries coming in and helping the people just simply won't do. The reason a few of them were kept alive is simply to torture them. As Rambo explains as well to the missionaries when he's taking them into the jungle, and he has to kill some of the military guys, he did it because they would have simply tortured everyone, raped the women, and then when they're finished, they'd just kill them. If you want an answer as to why the bad guys behave that way... there is no reason. It's based on reality. Actual atrocities happening in Burma as we type. |
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Yeah but in real life they do the same thing.
Anyone captured is kept alive, tortured, beaten etc. Sure they kill a few, but the captives are used for sport and for sick games and self gratification. No reason for it. They just do it. Because they can. Like the scenes where they get the prisoners to run across the minefields. They do it for fun. Because they can. It's why Stallone wanted to make they movie they way he did. It shows the ugly parts of humans, and the evil within the world that the press won't show us. During filming, they actually had some of the military, who hated the idea of the movie being made, firing pot-shots at Stallone and his crew. They'd fire their rifles from a distance over their heads to scare the film crew. The actor who played the main bad guy as well, in real life he's one of the Karen people... and all of his family were arrested and jailed by the government because he was in the movie. Stallone's a good bloke sometimes, literally risking his life to make an action movie with a humanitarian message :D |
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Oh, interesting trivia:
The Karen people, it's pronounced "Charen" or "Charon". With a soft-sh Ch. Charon is also the Greek word for a mythical Boatman who carries the souls of the dead to the world of the dead. Rambo is called "The Boatman" in the movie too by the crew of mercs... and Rambo's job is to carry people to a world where death basically rules :D |
Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 2091749)
Yeah but in real life they do the same thing.
Anyone captured is kept alive, tortured, beaten etc. Sure they kill a few, but the captives are used for sport and for sick games and self gratification. No reason for it. They just do it. Because they can. Like the scenes where they get the prisoners to run across the minefields. They do it for fun. Because they can. It's why Stallone wanted to make they movie they way he did. It shows the ugly parts of humans, and the evil within the world that the press won't show us. During filming, they actually had some of the military, who hated the idea of the movie being made, firing pot-shots at Stallone and his crew. They'd fire their rifles from a distance over their heads to scare the film crew. The actor who played the main bad guy as well, in real life he's one of the Karen people... and all of his family were arrested and jailed by the government because he was in the movie. Stallone's a good bloke sometimes, literally risking his life to make an action movie with a humanitarian message :D |
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About the same, except the 2008 film is Stallone making a statement about what is basically ethnic cleansing that never gets reported in the western world.
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Oh okay. I suppose they could make more action movies dealing with the Burma situation? Maybe James Bond could go there on a mission for example? They already made a Bond movie set in the ethnic cleansing of Afghanistan, so why not do one in Burma as well?
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Listen, I'm a Sly Stallone fan, but I'm going to be brutally honest. The only really good film in this entire series is First Blood. All the others were garbage, with different degrees of "stink". The least stink was Rambo (2008). The worst stink is Last Blood. The original film had a serious tone, a drama about the struggles of Vietnam War veterans returning home and being treated badly. Stallone delivered an excellent performance, with help of a great support cast that included Richard Crenna and Brian Dennehy. First Blood was supposed to end with Rambo killing himself, an ending that was true to the novel, that I personally preferred. Actor Kirk Douglas was the original choice to play Trautman, but when he learned that Rambo would end up living at the end, he backed out and in came Crenna. Stallone chose to keep Rambo alive because he knew it had potential to become a franchise much like his Rocky films. The problem with the franchise is that the story of a sad and lonely veteran struggling to get accepted by his countrymen was overlooked and the character became a more and more ludicrous superhero type character with zero personality and fewer and fewer lines in every new entry.
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Oh okay, it seems everyone says Rambo III is the worst, but I've always had a soft spot for it, and I think it's the second best after the first one. In fact, I think I would say it's the only good sequel.
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Maybe Last Blood will overtake it in that regard, but I get the impression that a decent cross-section of people might prefer it to III simply because it continues in the same overly violent vein as Rambo. Just a matter of who likes these movies and why.
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Oh okay :).
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Originally Posted by mojofilter (Post 2092404)
Listen, I'm a Sly Stallone fan, but I'm going to be brutally honest. The only really good film in this entire series is First Blood. All the others were garbage, with different degrees of "stink". The least stink was Rambo (2008). The worst stink is Last Blood. The original film had a serious tone, a drama about the struggles of Vietnam War veterans returning home and being treated badly. Stallone delivered an excellent performance, with help of a great support cast that included Richard Crenna and Brian Dennehy. First Blood was supposed to end with Rambo killing himself, an ending that was true to the novel, that I personally preferred. Actor Kirk Douglas was the original choice to play Trautman, but when he learned that Rambo would end up living at the end, he backed out and in came Crenna. Stallone chose to keep Rambo alive because he knew it had potential to become a franchise much like his Rocky films. The problem with the franchise is that the story of a sad and lonely veteran struggling to get accepted by his countrymen was overlooked and the character became a more and more ludicrous superhero type character with zero personality and fewer and fewer lines in every new entry.
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Calling it a guilty pleasure implies that you know it's bad and therefore shouldn't be surprised that someone actually dislikes it.
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I watched The Last Jedi again, and I felt it compared to Rambo (2008), because it feels like in Rambo, Rambo is at the bottom of the barrel, compared to Rambo III, kind of like how Luke Skywalker is in The Last Jedi, compared to when we last saw him.
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That's a common trope, where the hero falls on hard times and goes into exile, only to be dragged back into the fray. It's so common it's basically a lazy cliche at this point.
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2095733)
That's a common trope, where the hero falls on hard times and goes into exile, only to be dragged back into the fray. It's so common it's basically a lazy cliche at this point.
"They said you were the best..." "That was a long time ago..." "One more job." It's basically every single Steven Seagal movie since he found success in Under Siege. His movies before that had him as a cop or government agent of some kind, who is wronged, and he gets revenge. Under Siege came along, and he's a cook... turns out he's one of the ex-elites... and goes on an endless march of victory. Since then, every single movie he's made he's been ex-CIA or ex-military of some kind... and goes on an endless march of victory. Makes me think of Taken and John Wick tbh. Surprising they aren't Seagal movies. |
It definitely was the worst of the Rambo films, but the final 20 minutes to half-hour were entertaining where it just turns into a rated R Home Alone---either that or Rambo took inspiration from Jigsaw.
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I didn't mind it too much. Rambo III is still the worst.
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