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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241728)
That's one that my peers have often chastised me for not having seen, but with each passing year my interest in it dwindles more.
A. Get lost in the movement:
[Watch one film belonging to each of the following cinematic movements] 1. French Impressionism The Smiling Madame Beudet 2. Polish Film School Kanal 3. Dogme 95 Open Hearts 4. New Hollywood (1968-1980) MASH 5. Mumblecore Beeswax Done with section A! I would recommend all of these except maybe Beeswax and I was just so-so on MASH. Kanal was excellent if a bit bleak. The Smiling Madame Beudet is on YouTube and I mostly enjoyed it. It's about a woman with an overbearing, horrible husband who fantasizes about and then acts on causing his death. I was a bit mixed on the ultimate conclusion, but there are some really cool sequences, such as her falling asleep and imagining a character from her novel coming out of the book to throttle her husband. |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2241147)
Honestly, I think that if you feel you're playing by the spirit of the challenge, you should do whatever you want.
If Minari was almost entirely in Korean (like 90% or more) I would think it could count as foreign language. If it's more like half and half . . . maybe not. A changed it around to be more accurate and it ended up working in my favor. 48 films to go! |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2241167)
1. French Impressionism The Smiling Madame Beudet
Nice, this is the one I was planning to watch, too |
B. Times are a-changing
[Watch one film from each of these iconic decade-genre combinations] 1. 1930s Musical A Nous La Liberte 2. 1940s War film In Which We Serve 3. 1970s Apocalyptic film Idaho Transfer 4. 1980s Coming-of-age film Stand by Me 5. 1990s Courtroom Drama Philadelphia Um . . . all of these were pretty good? Stand by Me is probably the standout, but I'd recommend all of them. |
Really liked In Which We Serve. Quite a bit, actually. Loved Stand By Me and Philadelphia.
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About to watch my first Locarno film festival Golden Leopard winner.
Not familiar with Locarno at all, or what their objective is. |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2241410)
Really liked In Which We Serve. Quite a bit, actually. Loved Stand By Me and Philadelphia.
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C. I coulda been a contender:
[Watch a film that has won the following awards in any category] 1. Cannes Film Festival Wendy and Lucy 2. Academy Award Planet of the Apes 3. BAFTA The Hurt Locker 4. Independent Spirit Awards Dancer in the Dark 5. Sundance Film Festival Dick Johnson is Dead 6. Venice International Film Festival Last Year at Marienbad 7. Locarno Film Festival Lives of Others Another pretty good set of films. I would say that Dick Johnson is Dead was revelatory and a must watch for its innovation in doing . . . something related to documentary but not really? Everyone should see it. Last Year at Marienbad was also really strong with great imagery. |
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
watch 10 animated films 1. La Casa Lobo (2018) 2. Gauche the Cellist (1982) 3. Wrinkles (2011) 4. Mary and the Witch's Flower (2017) 5. Modest Heroes (2018) 6. Lensman (1984) 7. Janos Vitez (1973) 8. Son of the White Mare (1981) 9. Song of the Miraculous Hind (2002) 10. The Emperor's Nightingale (1949) 12 films remaining! |
I’ve been meaning to Watch Wendy and Lucy for several months now. Big fan of Michelle Williams. Looking forward to watching Last Year at Marienbad for the current HOF.
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Just realized all 10 of my animated films are also "foreign" films. I'm hereby giving myself bonus points for that.
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Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2241409)
B. Times are a-changing
[Watch one film from each of these iconic decade-genre combinations] 1. 1930s Musical A Nous La Liberte 2. 1940s War film In Which We Serve 3. 1970s Apocalyptic film Idaho Transfer 4. 1980s Coming-of-age film Stand by Me 5. 1990s Courtroom Drama Philadelphia Um . . . all of these were pretty good? Stand by Me is probably the standout, but I'd recommend all of them. |
Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241421)
Somehow Idaho Transfer has escaped my notice all these years. Looks like something I need to check out
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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241418)
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
watch 10 animated films 1. La Casa Lobo (2018) 2. Gauche the Cellist (1982) 3. Wrinkles (2011) 4. Mary and the Witch's Flower (2017) 5. Modest Heroes (2018) 6. Lensman (1984) 7. Janos Vitez (1973) 8. Son of the White Mare (1981) 9. Song of the Miraculous Hind (2002) 10. The Emperor's Nightingale (1949) 12 films remaining! D. Lets break this down, shall we? [Pick one of the following genres and watch one film from each of its subgenres list below] 1. [Horror: Slasher] Stepfather 2 2. [Horror: Monster] Stephanie 3. [Horror: Paranormal] Black Sabbath 4. [Horror: Gore] Day of the Dead Black Sabbath and Day of the Dead were great. The other two were meh. |
Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241166)
Finished Section C. I'm now 13 films from completion. |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2241433)
Well someone clearly took advantage of the Art House Animation collection on the Criterion Channel!
It's set in an elderly care facility and deals with Alzheimers. Very sweet/sad/funny. It's a Spanish film but the print I saw had an English language dub. Martin Sheen and Matthew Modine were two of the names I recall. |
Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241578)
I recommend Wrinkles if you can find it. Doesn't seem to be streaming for free anymore.
It's set in an elderly care facility and deals with Alzheimers. Very sweet/sad/funny. It's a Spanish film but the print I saw had an English language dub. Martin Sheen and Matthew Modine were two of the names I recall. |
E. It's a big world out there:
[Watch a film from the following regions] 1. North America Animal House 2. South America Gloria 3. Europe Long Good Friday 4. Asia Kairo 5. Africa Black Girl 6. Oceania Oz Aside from being a bit underwhelmed by Animal House and thinking that Oz might be an acquired taste (though I really liked it), I'd recommend all of these. |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2241727)
Aside from being a bit underwhelmed by Animal House |
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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2241728)
That's one that my peers have often chastised me for not having seen, but with each passing year my interest in it dwindles more.
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Over the years, it's been increasingly clear that Max Landis' awfulness wasn't a fluke. It was genetic. John Landis is clearly a piece of ****.
Besides that though, Animal House remains one of my top 10 favorite comedies. Increasingly, for reasons I can't quite articulate. There is only a handful of bits I find legitimately funny. And I've never been particularly in love with John Belushi. But there is just something so warm and familiar about the film, that it makes me smile. Which is also strange, since its mostly a loud, unsubtle, insulting, immoral, stupid, out-of-shape, hooligan of a film. But I guess I have friends that are like this too. And that my taste in people is probably just as bad as it is for movies. And by bad I, of course, mean impeccable. |
I like Animal House enough, but outside of Belushi, I do think the movie suffers when viewed now because of it's enormous influence. I don't like knocking movies for being dated, but so many comedies have pulled from its template so directly and lazily, that things that might have seemed fresh earlier feel stale as a result. Not a fault of the movie, but hard to approach with truly fresh eyes these days.
I find Trading Places quite a bit more enjoyable, as far as Landis goes.
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2241732)
And I've never been particularly in love with John Belushi.
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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2241734)
I like Animal House enough, but outside of Belushi, I do think the movie suffers when viewed now because of it's enormous influence. I don't like knocking movies for being dated, but so many comedies have pulled from its template so directly and lazily, that things that might have seemed fresh earlier feel stale as a result. Not a fault of the movie, but hard to approach with truly fresh eyes these days.
I find Trading Places quite a bit more enjoyable, as far as Landis goes. What the hell. Animal House has definitely been sucked dry by copy cat films, and its college years zeitgeist can't help but feel tamed in comparison. But much like much of the original Marx Brothers material has been pilfered over the years by every corner of comedy culture, there is something to be said about seeing where it all originally came from. The vibrancy remains in Animal House, even if the shock, and sometimes the laughs, do not. As for Belushi, I don't hate him. But as the leading light of those early SNL years, I'd quickly rank him behind Aykroyd, Chase, Radner and Murray. I think he's a magnetic presence on screen, but that has never really translated into many laughs for me. It also doesn't help I read Woodward's "Wired", which paints Belushi (probably not always fairly) as an insufferable, obnoxious brat, before I'd really seen much of him. Possibly tainted me at least a little bit. |
Currently I was going for Joel Coen as my director but I wouldn’t mind going a different route. Anyone have any suggestions for a director with ten amazing films under their belt?
Billy Wilder Alfred Hitchcock Woody Allen All come to mind, wasn’t sure if their was a director I was missing that could suck me down the rabbit hole |
Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2242163)
Currently I was going for Joel Coen as my director but I wouldn’t mind going a different route. Anyone have any suggestions for a director with ten amazing films under their belt?
Billy Wilder Alfred Hitchcock Woody Allen All come to mind, wasn’t sure if their was a director I was missing that could suck me down the rabbit hole They have tons of films by Fassbinder and Demy (who will be my 10 films). |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2242165)
Do you have access to the Criterion Channel?
They have tons of films by Fassbinder and Demy (who will be my 10 films). Yeah, I’m a subscriber, I’ll look into them, never heard of them, hoping for a good watch. Do you have a film recommendation to get me started? Preferably a film to get me to buy into his films? |
Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2242169)
Yeah, I’m a subscriber, I’ll look into them, never heard of them, hoping for a good watch.
Do you have a film recommendation to get me started? Preferably a film to get me to buy into his films? Demy is someone I'm trying to get into, but maybe The Umbrellas of Cherbourg? The Criterion Channel is actually a great source for this category, because they have several director collections. |
Three quarters of the way through seems like a good time for an update.
Just eight to go in the main challenge. As I expected, I don't think I'll finish nightmare mode, but I have completed two of those categories and I'll probably get to one or two more.
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Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2242163)
Currently I was going for Joel Coen as my director but I wouldn’t mind going a different route. Anyone have any suggestions for a director with ten amazing films under their belt?
Billy Wilder Alfred Hitchcock Woody Allen All come to mind, wasn’t sure if their was a director I was missing that could suck me down the rabbit hole |
Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2242268)
If you haven't touched base too much, Wilder has a serious amount of films to meander through as far as the three you mentioned goes, that would be my favorite though obviously, the other two are just as solid depending on one's preferences.
I have seen Alfred Hitchcock: 6 (Psycho, Rear Window, Rope, the Birds, Vertigo, North by Northwest) Billy Wilder: 1 (Double Indemnity) Woody Allen: 0 |
Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2242461)
Yeah, I figured I would subject myself to one of the greats I haven’t gotten to dive into yet properly
I have seen Alfred Hitchcock: 6 (Psycho, Rear Window, Rope, the Birds, Vertigo, North by Northwest) Billy Wilder: 1 (Double Indemnity) Woody Allen: 0 What I've done is visit their page on IMDb and run down their List of Films and see how many pops out at me and the one that continuously catches my eye, I go with. I can't honestly remember your tastes so it's hard to make a suggestion and I am biased when it comes to Wilder, especially his writing and he does have a bit of a variety in his type of films with a penchant for an amusing perspective when it comes to a large selection of his films. And Allen and Hitchcock ARE Allen and Hitchcock in regards to what to expect. Though, once you decide I'm pretty sure the rest of us will be happy to suggest films should you wish us to. :) |
Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2242465)
Even with Hitchcock you still have a ton of films worth enjoying and checking out, so I imagine its a case of seeing what kinds of films you are in the mood to watch.
What I've done is visit their page on IMDb and run down their List of Films and see how many pops out at me and the one that continuously catches my eye, I go with. I can't honestly remember your tastes so it's hard to make a suggestion and I am biased when it comes to Wilder, especially his writing and he does have a bit of a variety in his type of films with a penchant for an amusing perspective when it comes to a large selection of his films. And Allen and Hitchcock ARE Allen and Hitchcock in regards to what to expect. Though, once you decide I'm pretty sure the rest of us will be happy to suggest films should you wish us to. :) Yeah, I knew I had only hit the tip of the iceberg with Hitchcock, since he is one of the filmmakers I was interested in diving deeper. I think I’ll take your advice, see if I can come up with ten movies from a single director I am highly interested in. If I pick Hitchcock, I already have Vertigo and North by Northwest. For Wilder, I also saw Double Indemnity already as well, I’ll have to weigh that in to my decision. |
Wilder is great and has some fantastic films available to stream:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/search?...erson_id=22488 |
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HAPPY HUNTING, Boo-Boo!!!!
VERY curious to see who you go with and what films you check out |
Oh, regarding my process, I knocked out my second collection of challenges:
F. I see dead people: [Watch one film from each group of deceased directors, actors & cinematographers] 1. Elia Kazan (Director) Panic in the Streets (1950) REVIEW 2. Robert Bresson (writing & directing) Pickpocket (1959) REVIEW 3. Yul Brynner The Buccaneer (1958) REVIEW 4. Janet Leigh Act of Violence (1948) REVIEW 5. Sven Nykvist (Cinematography) Shame aka Skammen (1968) REVIEW |
@edarsenal
If I chose these directors, these are the films I know I would watch, the blank spaces next to numbers I wouldn’t mind some recommendations, if y’all don’t mind Billy Wilder: 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. The Apartment 3. Some Like it Hot 4. Double Indemnity* 5. Sabrina 6. Ace in the Hole 7. Witness for the Prosecution 8. 9. 10. Alfred Hitchcock 1. Rear Window* 2. Vertigo* 3. North by Northwest* 4. The Birds 5. To Catch a Thief 6. Dial M for Murder 7. Strangers on a Train 8. 9. 10. Woody Allen: I’m just going to watch his Owen Wilson film, for my Actor category and maybe one other to dip my feet in this year. |
Do you have any streaming service preferences?
In addition to what you have listed, possibly consider: Stalag 17 The Lost Weekend Irma La Douce |
Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2242524)
@edarsenal
If I chose these directors, these are the films I know I would watch, the blank spaces next to numbers I wouldn’t mind some recommendations, if y’all don’t mind Billy Wilder: 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. The Apartment 3. Some Like it Hot 4. Double Indemnity* 5. Sabrina 6. Ace in the Hole 7. Witness for the Prosecution 8. 9. 10. Alfred Hitchcock 1. Rear Window* 2. Vertigo* 3. North by Northwest* 4. The Birds 5. To Catch a Thief 6. Dial M for Murder 7. Strangers on a Train 8. 9. 10. Woody Allen: I’m just going to watch his Owen Wilson film, for my Actor category and maybe one other to dip my feet in this year. Billy Wilder: 1. Sunset Boulevard 2. The Apartment 3. Some Like it Hot 4. Double Indemnity* 5. Sabrina 6. Ace in the Hole 7. Witness for the Prosecution SOLID, EXCELLENT calls to explore upon. These are his iconic best, so I'll throw some favs and "hidden gems" into the mix. 8. Stalag 17 (1953) A personal favorite since I was but a pup and still holds out for me to this day. Another stellar Holden performance in, for me, his iconic echelon as well. 9. The Major and The Minor (1942) This is Wilder at his most Screwball Comedy. It's NOT Echelon, but it is - should you enjoy Screwball, definitely in good standings. 10. The Seven Year Itch (1955) And speaking of fun -- Wilder pokes fun at the neurotic babbling of a married man who's family is away on summer vacation, utterly intoxicated by Marilyn Monroe as the new upstairs neighbor. ***Cinematic Bonus*** Monroe's iconic white dress billowing up over a sidewalk grating. Alfred Hitchcock 1. Rear Window* 2. Vertigo* 3. North by Northwest* 4. The Birds 5. To Catch a Thief 6. Dial M for Murder 7. Strangers on a Train Exactly as previously stated on your calls and my suggestions. 8. The Lady Vanishes (1938) A Lesser Known Gem from Alfie's early days in London. Showcasing his brilliance in its budding form. 9. Lifeboat (1944) The claustrophobic environs of survivors of a torpedoed Merchant Ship during WWII wondering which one of them is a survivor from the equally sunk German U Boat. Hitchcock paces the tension to a violinist's concerto. IMO. 10. Shadow of a Doubt (1943) A great thriller "cat and mouse" film. The innocent (Theresa Wright) accidentally discovers that her favorite uncle (Joseph Cotten) is a truly dangerous wolf in sheep's clothing, aka "Merry Widow" killer. |
For Hitchcock I will also throw in Notorious, probably my favorite of his films behind Psycho. My third favorite of his is probably The 39 Steps. Shadow of a Doubt is excellent. I will also strongly second Lifeboat and The Lady Vanishes.
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Should get the main challenge done (5 completed). That Dogme and Sundance are dragging me though. Also need to find a good 80's coming of age and 70's apocalyptic movie. Nightmare? Not gonna come close. Have only completed 2 (Foreign and Horror) so far
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Originally Posted by Hey Fredrick (Post 2242592)
Should get the main challenge (5 completed) done. That Dogme and Sundance are dragging me though. Also need to find a good 80's coming of age and 70's apocalyptic movie. Nightmare? Not gonna come close. Have only completed 2 (Foreign and Horror) so far
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Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2242567)
For Hitchcock I will also throw in Notorious, probably my favorite of his films behind Psycho. My third favorite of his is probably The 39 Steps. Shadow of a Doubt is excellent. I will also strongly second Lifeboat and The Lady Vanishes.
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The Omega Man for post apocalypse.
For coming of age 80’s, I’d mention the following, although it’s likely you’ve seen them already: Stand By Me, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink, Lucas and Say Anything. |
Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2242593)
Have you seen A Boy and His Dog? I ended up watching Idaho Transfer, and while it wasn't great, it was interesting and I'd recommend it.
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2242595)
The Omega Man for post apocalypse.
For coming of age 80’s, I’d mention the following, although it’s likely you’ve seen them already: Stand By Me, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink, Lucas and Say Anything. The others I have seen. That's why this one is so tough. The 80's were my movie watching decade. Cable tv and VCR's? Come on! Not much got past me especially stuff geared towards a younger audience (and...*cough* showtimeafterhours), which is why I may have to look for foreign films for this category. |
Originally Posted by Hey Fredrick (Post 2242599)
A Boy and His Dog I have seen. Idaho Transfer looks interesting. If I can find it I'll give it a go.
The coming of age thing is tricky. For sort of a horror coming of age, have you seen Society? I imagine you've seen River's Edge, Another Country, My Bodyguard, Suburbia. |
I went out and bought The Omega Man awhile back. Plan on watching it this month.
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Update! 10/5!
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Originally Posted by Hey Fredrick (Post 2242599)
A Boy and His Dog I have seen. Idaho Transfer looks interesting. If I can find it I'll give it a go.
Omega Man is the one I've been looking/waiting for but haven't been able to find it on any of my streaming stuff. The others I have seen. That's why this one is so tough. The 80's were my movie watching decade. Cable tv and VCR's? Come on! Not much got past me especially stuff geared towards a younger audience (and...*cough* showtimeafterhours), which is why I may have to look for foreign films for this category. 4. 1980s Coming-of-age film The Year My Voice Broke (1987) 5. 1990s Courtroom Drama [url="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107207/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1"] I sent you a link in comments for Omega Man. I have Andromeda Strain for the Apocalyptic but after locating OM, I think I might go with that instead. Great lists of films, Wylde! I'll probably post my full list tonight |
Yah. This is so much fun. I decided to go with sub genres over genres, without breaking the spirit of the rule, and it’s been much more enjoyable.
Kaiju this year, Giallo planned for next year. 6 for normal mode, 21 for nightmare. Already looking forward to next years challenge |
Here's where I'm at. Haven't started my chosen Director, Fritz Lang though I do have a large chunk of films lined up. The same goes with the very first challenge: Get Lost in the Movement. I have two completed Challenges in the Main Challenge and doing pretty well on the rest.
This has been a really Top Echelon of amazing films this year and this has added to that so beautifully. Watchlist films Viewed films
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Updated: 10/6
Total: 137/162 (25 to go) 40/52
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So I need a Horror->Gore film. One problem I'm having is I'm never 100% sure what qualifies? Like, I wouldn't consider Texas Chain Saw Massacre particularly gory. And I'm trying to find something new, so the Hostel movies (which I would definitely consider in the gore category (ho ho)) are out. And I'd like to watch something that's good or at least interestingly bad. So I'm welcoming recommendations, especially on Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, or Criterion. I'll consider Kino Cult but the second an ad shows up I'm out.
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Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2243632)
So I need a Horror->Gore film. One problem I'm having is I'm never 100% sure what qualifies? Like, I wouldn't consider Texas Chain Saw Massacre particularly gory. And I'm trying to find something new, so the Hostel movies (which I would definitely consider in the gore category (ho ho)) are out. And I'd like to watch something that's good or at least interestingly bad. So I'm welcoming recommendations, especially on Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, or Criterion. I'll consider Kino Cult but the second an ad shows up I'm out.
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Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2243632)
So I need a Horror->Gore film. One problem I'm having is I'm never 100% sure what qualifies? Like, I wouldn't consider Texas Chain Saw Massacre particularly gory. And I'm trying to find something new, so the Hostel movies (which I would definitely consider in the gore category (ho ho)) are out. And I'd like to watch something that's good or at least interestingly bad. So I'm welcoming recommendations, especially on Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, or Criterion. I'll consider Kino Cult but the second an ad shows up I'm out.
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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2243653)
Possessor on Hulu is pretty gross. Directed by Cronenberg Jr.
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Re: 2021 Film Challenge
Psycho Goreman feels a little on the nose. Not that I have a problem with that. I'm not expecting subtlety here.
I do note that Possessor has Andrea Riseborough, which is always a plus. That's where I'm leaning atm but I welcome further suggestions. Thanks, folks! |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2243658)
I welcome further suggestions.
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Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2243658)
Psycho Goreman feels a little on the nose. Not that I have a problem with that. I'm not expecting subtlety here.
I do note that Possessor has Andrea Riseborough, which is always a plus. That's where I'm leaning atm but I welcome further suggestions. Thanks, folks! |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2243632)
So I need a Horror->Gore film. One problem I'm having is I'm never 100% sure what qualifies? Like, I wouldn't consider Texas Chain Saw Massacre particularly gory. And I'm trying to find something new, so the Hostel movies (which I would definitely consider in the gore category (ho ho)) are out. And I'd like to watch something that's good or at least interestingly bad. So I'm welcoming recommendations, especially on Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, or Criterion. I'll consider Kino Cult but the second an ad shows up I'm out.
I can't weigh in on Possessor since I'm not watching it until the end of the month but I'm guessing that's your best bet. Martyrs is another movie I haven't seen but has the reputation of being good. Other than that, IDK, assuming you've seen all the American classics I can think of (Cronenberg, The Thing), maybe one of Fulci's movies you haven't seen (Zombie, City of the Living Dead, The Beyond, House by the Cemetery), though they can be an acquired taste. |
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Actually, and maybe this is the sort of thing I shouldn't admit here, I've never seen a single Fulci film. But I should! And if they qualify for this category, so much the better. But the critical question is, are any of them conveniently streaming?
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Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244112)
Actually, and maybe this is the sort of thing I shouldn't admit here, I've never seen a single Fulci film. But I should! And if they qualify for this category, so much the better. But the critical question is, are any of them conveniently streaming?
https://tubitv.com/search/Lucio%20Fulci%20 |
Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2244113)
But I will keep The Beyond on my mental checklist for whenever Criterion runs a Fulci collection (I mean, they're doing Doris Wishman, for god's sake). |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244127)
I'm probably going to come across as unnecessarily fussy here, but Tubi has ads, right? And not just at the start, but in the middle of films? If so, that's a nonstarter for me. I'll pay for a rental first, to be honest.
But I will keep The Beyond on my mental checklist for whenever Criterion runs a Fulci collection (I mean, they're doing Doris Wishman, for god's sake). |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244127)
I'm probably going to come across as unnecessarily fussy here, but Tubi has ads, right? And not just at the start, but in the middle of films? If so, that's a nonstarter for me. I'll pay for a rental first, to be honest.
But I will keep The Beyond on my mental checklist for whenever Criterion runs a Fulci collection (I mean, they're doing Doris Wishman, for god's sake). The Beyond is rentable on Amazon (I didn't check iTunes). Zombie, City of the Living Dead, The Beyond, and House by the Cemetery are all on Shudder. Some also on AMC+. Some should be on Shudder. He should be relatively rentable. (just checking The Beyond) |
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Yeah, I just can't do ads. Basically, I'm trying to replicate the theater experience as closely as I can (though I will pause for bathroom breaks, I'm not crazy). This is a me thing, I know!
But I appreciate the suggestions, Fulci will get his turn yet. |
So far I haven’t understood the love for Fulci, but I’m only two films into his filmography, with The Beyond and House by the Cemetery up next
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I remember when Hulu used to do ads in movies. They seemed to stop for that and only do the ads at the very beginning. So, I hear you in terms of it interrupting the viewing experience.
Fulci's kind of an acquired taste (and is known for a slow pace and kind of non-sensical plot). So, it's one of those, I can't give any guarantees you'll like it, but it is... idiosyncratic. I know he grew on me. I think I saw City of the Living Dead last amongst those four, and I think that's when he finally clicked for me. (Though some people describe that movie as slow and miserable. And I can't say they're wrong...) |
Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2244138)
Fulci's kind of an acquired taste (and is known for a slow pace and kind of non-sensical plot). So, it's one of those, I can't give any guarantees you'll like it, but it is... idiosyncratic. I know he grew on me. I think I saw City of the Living Dead last amongst those four, and I think that's when he finally clicked for me. (Though some people describe that movie as slow and miserable. And I can't say they're wrong...)
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Fulci spoke my language right from the get go. In fact, I would likely include him in the top 10 architects of how I currently think about film (this isn't to say best, it would be more a list of directors who led me to understand how supposed craftsmanship is suffocating the life out of the artform)
I rented City of the Living Dead probably when I was about 14 and, while I couldn't make heads or tails of it, and barely seemed able to remember the structure of the thing moments after it had finished, it lingered with me for years. It was probably also one of the few movies that had managed to unnerve me in ages, and I think it had a lot to do with its alien-ness. I had no real idea of who Fulci was, or what other films he had directed for a long time after that. But when I one day ended up posting a list of the greatest horror movies of all time online, and I had it close to my top 10, what a shock it was to me when I realized the vast majority of people at the time loathed the film. Wrote it off as amateur, gross out nonsense. Because of this, it may have been one of the first movies I ever actually attempted to defend in actual words, and not just with fists and eyerolls. And while I still think fists and eyerolls are probably considerably more effective, I've come to learn words have their place to, as long as they are used similarly. He also let me learn that it is a considerable waste of time to worry what anyone else thinks about anything when it comes to art. Just like you don't choose your mother or father, you don't choose to movies that matter to you. You just accept them as they come |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244133)
Yeah, I just can't do ads. Basically, I'm trying to replicate the theater experience as closely as I can (though I will pause for bathroom breaks, I'm not crazy). This is a me thing, I know!
But I appreciate the suggestions, Fulci will get his turn yet. I used to be similarly fastidious about how I would watch at home as well. Except no bathroom breaks either. Also, I was never allowed to look at the runtime. And, whenever possible, I didn't even want to know what genre the movie was or read any of the summary on the back. All I ever had to go on was the cover on the box, and I probably would have tried to find a way to do without it either if I could have. Now, I hardly can't afford to be so serious, or I would never watch anything. |
Regarding Fulci, I’ve seen Zombi and City of the Living Dead, which were bloody and gorey and CotLD had a nice score, but outside of that, I don’t see the supposed art. Sure, they’re nicely shot, but surely there should be more to the film, right? Like a decent plot, for instance.
I’ve yet to dig into his Giallo, so we’ll see. Not writing him off, or anything. But I’m enjoying Bava more so far, so prioritizing him first. |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2244143)
I used to be similarly fastidious about how I would watch at home as well. Except no bathroom breaks either. Also, I was never allowed to look at the runtime. And, whenever possible, I didn't even want to know what genre the movie was or read any of the summary on the back. All I ever had to go on was the cover on the box, and I probably would have tried to find a way to do without it either if I could have.
Now, I hardly can't afford to be so serious, or I would never watch anything. |
Pfft, pausing for bathroom breaks. Go in your pants, you cowards!
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I think The Beyond is the best package of Fulci's strengths in one film. Once you gel to that, what he does well in other films will come into focus more easily.
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Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2244142)
And while I still think fists and eyerolls are probably considerably more effective, I've come to learn words have their place to, as long as they are used similarly.
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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2244151)
I think The Beyond is the best package of Fulci's strengths in one film. Once you gel to that, what he does well in other films will come into focus more easily.
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Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2244147)
Like a decent plot, for instance.
City of the Living Dead would only be diminished by a plot. It needs to function as a kind of delirium of the senses. That is its biggest selling point. That it drifts away from any standard story telling practise. It can't be restrained by our futile logic. For me, film is inherently an imagistic form. And the medium it plays with is the manipulation of time (through editing, either elongating or abbreviating these moments caught on film). That is the core essence of film. Then there is, of course, all of the accoutrements that come with this--sound design, acting, special effects, costumes,score, cinematography. And while it is also obviously an extremely effective tool to tell stories, narrative comes dead last in my books. It should only be dusted off when you can't make the rest of these elements work on their own. Essentially, story is a binding agent. It orders things logically, gives us goals to root for and offers us dramatic beats to feel specific feelings. And, as a basic film romantic, I like to believe film works just fine without any of this. Many of the greatest filmmakers in my book can either push narrative into the background, or forgo it entirely. In really good hands, story telling can be an artform in itself. And that is really really great when it happens. But, sadly, narrative has become such a redundant and lazy thing over the years, I've never found many directors incorporate this element with any particular grace. It's mostly used as crutch. And when used this way, it also becomes an anchor that pulls down and drowns the work of what is pure filmmaking. Not only do I not think Fulci would benefit from any of this kind of structure, I think he would only suffer from it. You start using narrative in hopes of putting something like City of the Living Dead in proper sequential order, with very clear goals that the characters need to achieve, with things we are supposed to root for, and it turns all of its madness and violence into outgrowths of a (most likely) standard story about the end of the world. Fulci instead allows the movie to be about the madness and the violence. And to sell such a thing, it needs to be impenetrable and confusing. It needs to feel like a merciless onslaught. It needs to be something you can't really talk about in concrete details, only in abstracts. It needs to dissipate like a nightmare when it's over. tldr: Fulci must run wild. Stories shant tame him. |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2244173)
City of the Living Dead would only be diminished by a plot. It needs to function as a kind of delirium of the senses. That is its biggest selling point. That it drifts away from any standard story telling practise. It can't be restrained by our futile logic.
For me, film is inherently an imagistic form. And the medium it plays with is the manipulation of time (through editing, either elongating or abbreviating these moments caught on film). That is the core essence of film. Then there is, of course, all of the accoutrements that come with this--sound design, acting, special effects, costumes,score, cinematography. And while it is also obviously an extremely effective tool to tell stories, narrative comes dead last in my books. It should only be dusted off when you can't make the rest of these elements work on their own. Essentially, story is a binding agent. It orders things logically, gives us goals to root for and offers us dramatic beats to feel specific feelings. And, as a basic film romantic, I like to believe film works just fine without any of this. Many of the greatest filmmakers in my book can either push narrative into the background, or forgo it entirely. In really good hands, story telling can be an artform in itself. And that is really really great when it happens. But, sadly, narrative has become such a redundant and lazy thing over the years, I've never found many directors incorporate this element with any particular grace. It's mostly used as crutch. And when used this way, it also becomes an anchor that pulls down and drowns the work of what is pure filmmaking. Not only do I not think Fulci would benefit from any of this kind of structure, I think he would only suffer from it. You start using narrative in hopes of putting something like City of the Living Dead in proper sequential order, with very clear goals that the characters need to achieve, with things we are supposed to root for, and it turns all of its madness and violence into outgrowths of a (most likely) standard story about the end of the world. Fulci instead allows the movie to be about the madness and the violence. And to sell such a thing, it needs to be impenetrable and confusing. It needs to feel like a merciless onslaught. It needs to be something you can't really talk about in concrete details, only in abstracts. It needs to dissipate like a nightmare when it's over. tldr: Fulci must run wild. Stories shant tame him. I plan on watching Beyond and House by the Cemetery this month, so we’ll see how those work. |
Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2244179)
I found it diminished without a plot, but to each it’s own. Along those same lines, I prefer something of a narrative at least, but this depends on the film, and with City….it could have used something.
I plan on watching Beyond and House by the Cemetery this month, so we’ll see how those work. As others have mentioned, Fulci is unquestionably an acquired taste. And one whose influence is never likely to bleed much past the margins of the little horror niche he's created. Beyond, because it relies a little more on a discernable narrative, is usually the one that can win some over to Team Fulci. But, it's probably for that very reason, I would always put a couple of his films above it (City of the Living Dead, Cat in the Brain, Lizard in a Woman's Skin) I think the best way to articulate my general point about this is that I think I kind of look at film almost in the same way others look at music. Generally, people don't feel music is a lacking when it doesn't provide a story. Sure, it's a tool some songwriter's can use to great benefit (John Prine, Randy Newman, Tom Waits), but for the most part, it is predominantly about how the sound of it affects them. And, likewise, I think movies (above anything else) need to be observed like light flickering on a canvas. But, yes, to each their own. |
Chekhov, Method or Meisner?
watch 10 films featuring the same actor (Christopher Lee) 1. Horror of Dracula (1958) 2. Dracula Prince of Darkness (1966) 3. Dracula Has Risen From the Grave (1968) 4. Taste the Blood of Dracula (1970) 5. Scars of Dracula (1970) 6. Dracula AD 1972 (1972) 7. The Satanic Rites of Dracula (1973) 8. The Castle of the Living Dead (1964) 9. Challenge the Devil (1963) 10. The Mummy (1959) |
Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244112)
Actually, and maybe this is the sort of thing I shouldn't admit here, I've never seen a single Fulci film. But I should! And if they qualify for this category, so much the better. But the critical question is, are any of them conveniently streaming?
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Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2244527)
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Originally Posted by kgaard (Post 2244528)
neck deep in Fulci right now.
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I know I’ve been bouncing all around trying to find a director and landed on Billy Wilder, but after finishing animation and diving into the worl of Hayao Mayazaki, I think ima pick him for my director.
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Originally Posted by BooBooKittyFock (Post 2244964)
I know I’ve been bouncing all around trying to find a director and landed on Billy Wilder, but after finishing animation and diving into the worl of Hayao Mayazaki, I think ima pick him for my director.
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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2244531)
I think the correct phrase for Fulci is "up to your eyeballs". ;)
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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2244983)
That's assuming the speaker still has eyeballs, though.
I will correct to this one to show no eyeballs. :sick: |
Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2244986)
no eyeballs. :sick:
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Re: 2021 Film Challenge
My precious...awards
pick any one list from section C of the main challenge and watch 10 films in it Academy Awards: 1. Ran (1985), Costume Design 2. The Godfather (1972), Best Picture 3. The Year of Living Dangerously (1984), Best Supporting Actress 4. Witness (1986), Best Screenplay 5. Dersu Uzala (1975), Best Foreign Language Film 6. Tenet (2020), Visual Effects 7. Dead Poets Society (1989), Best Screenplay 8. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003), Best Cinematography 9. Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992), Costume Design 10. The Godfather Part II (1974), Best Picture 10 movies remaining! |
I'm getting back to this now that I'm finished with the Halloween challenge. My three major categories I'm finishing up are:
10 from the same director: Gonna watch 10 more Fassbinders as a part 2 to what I did the first time around. 10 from the same country: Gonna watch the first 10 Demy films in chronological order, a la what I did with Varda Foreign films: Just need to keep chipping away at this. The actor I picked for my 10 from the same actor is Joel McCrea, but I've been just a touch disappointed at the films I've watched so far, but that may be largely due to having already seen his two biggest films before this challenge and the nature of what is available on my streaming services. |
A few more categories completed:
F. I see dead people: [Watch one film from each group of deceased directors, actors & cinematographers] 1. Anthony Mann T-Men 2. Fritz Lang Destiny 3. Bruce Lee Game of Death 4. Katina Paxinou Rocco and His Brothers 5. Néstor Almendros La collectionneuse Rocco and His Brothers is the clear standout from this group. I suppose I would recommend the others, though I had not realized how exploitative Game of Death was until after watching it. |
G. I have always depended on the lists of strangers:
[Watch one film featured in each of the following prominent lists] 1. Roger Ebert's Great Films Body Heat 2. Sight & Sound's top 100 (any category) Modern Times 3. AFI's top 100 (any category) The Odd Couple 4. IMDb's top 250 (2020 finalized edition) The Great Dictator 5. Steven Jay Schneider's 1001 movies Guys and Dolls 6. Criterion Collection Scanners All of these are classics I've been meaning to get to for a while. I would say that only Modern Times and The Great Dictator lived up to the hype. I suppose Body Heat was pretty good. |
H. We've met before, haven't we?
[Watch a film that migrated to cinematic form from another medium] 1. a franchise with 5 or more sequels/remakes/reboots Hound of the Baskervilles 2. a novel adaptation How Green Was My Valley 3. a film adapted to or from a TV series Tales from the Crypt 4. a theatrical play adaptation Barefoot in the Park How Green Was My Valley was pretty good. I was kind of tepid on the rest of them. |
I. War, what is it good for?
[Watch one film centered around each of the war themes below] 1. World War I The African Queen 2. World War II The Best Years of Our Lives 3. Cold War Spy Who Came In From the Cold 4. Vietnam War Good Morning Vietnam Now THIS was a really strong crop of films. I'd highly recommend all of them. |
J. Are we there yet?
[Watch one film for each of the miscellaneous challenges listed below] 1. a film more than 160 minutes long Blade Runner 2049 2. a film with a budget lower than 1 million The Invisible Man 3. a silent film Within Our Gates 4. a film directed by a woman Shiva Baby 5. a 2021 release No Sudden Move 6. a film suggested by another participant of this challenge Lords of Salem Another really strong group. If you have the Criterion Channel, Within Our Gates is a must see. |
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in Paris?
watch 10 foreign language films Big Bad Wolves My Father My Lord The Thief Khrustalyov, My Car! Another Round Three Colors: Blue Day of Wrath Man Bites Dog Irma Vep Goke, Body Snatcher from Hell Big Bad Wolves was a dud. Khrustalyov, My Car! was not quite my brand of weird. Everything else, thumbs up! |
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times!
watch 10 films released in the same decade (90s) Life is Sweet Total Recall Wild at Heart Farinelli Soldier Waterworld Romy and Michelle’s High School Reunion Split Second Predator 2 Straight Story Yes, I also see the list that I just posted. Don't judge. |
Documentary, my dear Watson
watch 10 documentaries Going Clear The Wolfpack Dina Malice at the Palace Family Next Door The Show Must Go On Somm Night and Fog House is Black Dark Days All of these are solid and I'd recommend them. Somm was maybe a bit meh. |
My precious...awards
pick any one list from section C of the main challenge and watch 10 films in it (Oscars) Born Yesterday Roman Holiday Million Dollar Baby Cabaret Pygmalion The Revenant Dracula Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom Soul Picture of Dorian Gray A mixed bag. Born Yesterday, Roman Holiday, The Revenant and Picture of Dorian Gray were great. |
The stuff that lists are made of
pick any one list from section G of the main challenge and watch 10 films in it (Ebert’s Great Films) Floating Weeds Mystery Train McCabe and Mrs. Miller Heart of Glass Duck Soup Night Moves La Ceremonie Sunrise: Song of Two Humans West Side Story Ripley’s Game Another great batch. All of these are highly recommended. |
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