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Corax 04-10-23 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 2382012)
And half of most movies directed by David Lynch because they fall apart halfway thru.


Wyldesyde19 04-10-23 02:02 PM

I love Lynch’s films, but I did not like Blue Velvet

beelzebubble 04-10-23 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2382190)
I love Lynch’s films, but I did not like Blue Velvet
Wow! Really? Why? This is probably my favorite Lynch movie.

Corax 04-10-23 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebubble (Post 2382200)
Wow! Really? Why? This is probably my favorite Lynch movie.
Why is it your favorite?

KeyserCorleone 04-10-23 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2382183)
I’ve seen The Graduate countless times. It’s a classic of American cinema.
Yeah, it's just that "classic" isn't really justification for me. I mean, An American Tail I a classic and it's quite flawed.

Wyldesyde19 04-10-23 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebubble (Post 2382200)
Wow! Really? Why? This is probably my favorite Lynch movie.
It’s not that well done, honestly. Acting wasn’t all that great in it, and his metaphors seemed….heavy handed?He has better films.

Wyldesyde19 04-10-23 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2382183)
I’ve seen The Graduate countless times. It’s a classic of American cinema.
I’m actually with Keyser on The Graduate. It’s an ok film, but does nothing for me, personally.

beelzebubble 04-10-23 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2382202)
Why is it your favorite?
I think Blue Velvet is my first Lynch film. I saw it in the theater centuries ago. I had never seen anything like it. I loved the color saturation, the juxtaposition of the wholesome facade with the decadent hidden life of the town. It's kind of like a Douglas Sirk film that has been allowed to moulder. I think that it doesn't get permanently lost in the seediness the way his other films do. But it is an interesting exploration of trauma as I think most of Lynch is. This one may be a little more accessible.

Corax 04-10-23 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebubble (Post 2382219)
I think Blue Velvet is my first Lynch film. I saw it in the theater centuries ago. I had never seen anything like it. I loved the color saturation, the juxtaposition of the wholesome facade with the decadent hidden life of the town. It's kind of like a Douglas Sirk film that has been allowed to moulder. I think that it doesn't get permanently lost in the seediness the way his other films do. But it is an interesting exploration of trauma as I think most of Lynch is. This one may be a little more accessible.
It's been a minute since I've seen this one. Strangely, DUNE seems to be his most straightforward/linear film.

Captain Steel 04-10-23 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2382225)
It's been a minute since I've seen this one. Strangely, DUNE seems to be his most straightforward/linear film.
I'd say that distinction belongs to The Elephant Man (1980).
After all, it's historical & biographical, and, except for a dream sequence. takes place in our reality.

Corax 04-10-23 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2382227)
I'd say that distinction belongs to The Elephant Man (1980).
After all, it's historical & biographical, and, except for a dream sequence. takes place in our reality.

Ah, right. And that film kind of "made" him as a director, right? Dummies thought they could trust him to make crowd-pleasers after this one and he went on to make all those angsty nightmares.

Gideon58 04-10-23 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by matt72582 (Post 2381528)
Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Zhivago
Bridge on the River Kwai

Jaws

I've never seen Dr Zhivago or Bridge on the River Kwai, but I agree with you regarding Jaws

Gideon58 04-10-23 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Thief (Post 2382014)
This list will probably make me lose my "cinephile card", but these are the ones where I mostly stray away from "the crowd"...

The Matrix
The Sixth Sense
Interstellar
Annie Hall
Breathless
Silver Linings Playbook
Evil Dead/Evil Dead 2


Maybe I can even include The Dark Knight, a film I like quite a bit, but that I just can't understand the "masterpiece" status that most people have bestowed upon it.
Totally agree with Annie Hall and I have tried to watch Interstellar four times and have turned it off after about 15 minutes.

Gideon58 04-10-23 09:07 PM

I'm with Stirchley regarding The Graduate,,,awesome film.

Citizen Rules 04-10-23 10:57 PM

Re: Movies everyone loves that you don't get?
 
I hate to say it, but one movie that everyone seems to love that I don't is The Graduate....sorry Stirch

Captain Steel 04-11-23 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by matt72582 (Post 2381528)
Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Zhivago
Bridge on the River Kwai

Jaws
Dr. Strangelove is probably a little overrated. It was probably considered somewhat shocking (making light of nuclear war) when it came out. (It's probably considered funnier depending on generation.)

Never seen Dr. Zhivago (the fact that it always just seemed long & boring via description & previews has kept me from seeking it out).

I am a big fan of Bridge on the River Kwai - it's got everything: rebellion, torture, hot boxes, stiff-upper-lips and all that sort of rot, wot? wot?, negotiations, reconciliation, POW's, jungle survival, engineering, reluctant heroes, sympathetic villains, naked Asian girls, whistling!
The only thing that I dislike about it is the ending.
WARNING: "Because..." spoilers below
All the main characters get killed.


Jaws traumatized me when I first saw it in the theater as a kid. Any movie that can do that gets a thumbs up from me as far as effectiveness goes. It definitely has its moments.

matt72582 04-11-23 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2382264)
Dr. Strangelove is probably a little overrated. It was probably considered somewhat shocking (making light of nuclear war) when it came out. (It's probably considered funnier depending on generation.).

People gawking over the line "There's no fighting in the war room" seems as if one was impoverished or sheltered away... I've had the movie since 17, when Kubrick was my favorite (and got all his movies), but.. I'm in tune with older comedy (Mort Sahl), and that era, although foreign movies were probably at their height, while it would take the US until the 70s to make their best.

matt72582 04-11-23 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2382254)
I hate to say it, but one movie that everyone seems to love that I don't is The Graduate....sorry Stirch

Yeah, thought this was an average movie (6/10) at 17, and at 37. Not one I'd see again, either. Didn't like the last 20-30 minutes, especially. And "We don't talk any more" is horrible writing. That's something a couple might say after 40 years, not some 20-yr old having a fling with an older woman/friend of the family. And certainly not after a night or two at an upscale hotel.

Citizen Rules 04-11-23 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by matt72582 (Post 2382311)
[The Graduate]Yeah, thought this was an average movie (6/10) at 17, and at 37. Not one I'd see again, either. Didn't like the last 20-30 minutes, especially. And "We don't talk any more" is horrible writing. That's something a couple might say after 40 years, not some 20-yr old having a fling with an older woman/friend of the family. And certainly not after a night or two at an upscale hotel.
I'm guessing the love for that movie came from the baby boomer generation who first watched it back in 1967 when they were coming of age. It must be the film's theme of a young people feeling uncertain and undecided about which path their lives should take, while feeling pulled by family and society to conform with the norms of the day.

For me I wasn't really into the film and while Dustin Hoffman is a good actor I think he's ill cast as a jock from a rich family.

Corax 04-11-23 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2382330)
while Dustin Hoffman is a good actor I think he's ill cast as a jock from a rich family.
And Harrison Ford was ill-cast as a nebbish bureaucrat in Blade Runner. That role really should have gone to Hoffman (the part was written for him IIRC). And yet now people cannot imagine The Graduate without Hoffman or Blade Runner without Ford.

There is an emotional aspect to memory such that an image of a seems wrong to us if there is not a familiar "feeling" to it. See Capgras Delusion. How many of these people "feel" wrong for the part below?
https://youtu.be/4I52JdHVB7I
And how much of this feeling has to do with "right" casting and how much of it has to do with our emotional connection with having "imprinted" on the version of the film we saw? It's a bit of both, but I am suspicious when people claim "Only X could have played that part!"


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