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How about masking the spoiler there, Godoggo?

I got 18 out of 20 and am thinking that the question about original casting is not correct. "Auditioned for" does not equal "cast".

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one of the questions (#14) is totally wrong!!! When Buffy sleeps with Angel


So i should have gotten 100% correct.

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yea i got 18/20

got the Nerf Hearder question wrong and like Monkey fell for number 14 where the answer was just completely wrong.

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I am so sorry for that stupid way I worded that question you guys and gals. I totally had it backwards. I fixed it and hopefully the stats will reflect that. If not I'll try to have Chris fix it up. Again, I apologize. I spent a long time trying to make sure I got the wording for those questions to make sense and I completely goofed that one.

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I spoke with Chris and he's going to do me a favor and wipe the slate clean. Again, I apologize for the screw up and now I give you the new and improved (and hopefully accurate) Buffy quiz.

Edit: And since most of you regulars did so well on my admittedly poor first attempt I'll try and come up with a part 2 that will perhaps be a little tougher for you seasoned vets.

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Some of the questions were good difficulty wise but some like what town does Buffy live in were just a little too easy.

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Sorry, I wasn't thinking at all there.

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Buffy Quiz Pt. 2! And hopefully I didn't screw any of these up. I triple checked them. I hope it's tough enough for you regulars.

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Nice new quiz was tougher got a 16/20

didn't know Buffy's fathers name, Buffy's address, Riley's wife's name or the name of the gypsys that cursed Angel

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100%!

I am the supreme Buffy dork! lol.

Should I be proud of this? :D

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sweet i got 18/20

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So just trying to keep this thread thriving, what are some of you're guys favorite seasons. possible spoilers coming up::

Season 1: Probably the weakest of all the seasons but not really to it's fault. The show was picked up mid-season and could have been canceled any minute so there wasn't too much plot development with the exception of about 3 or 4 episode and more of a monster of the week type thing. Not to mention its half the length of every other season. Ultimately not terrible but does have it's flaws and makes it hard to get people into the series, not much to draw you in.
[b]Favorite Episodes[b]: The Pack, Angel, Prophecy Girl

Season 2: A big leap from the first season in terms of character development, long term story lines and just plain old entertainment. The introduction of Spike one of my personal favorite characters was awesome and just seeing how great David Boreanaz is as Angelus. When the switch happens its a completely different character and David plays it like a pro. This is the season that grabs you as a viewer and makes you want to see more.
Favorite Episodes: Halloween, Ted, Innocence, Becoming part 1+ 2.

Season 3: After the ride that was season 2 you would think it would be hard to live up to that hype but Season 3 takes it as my favorite season of the whole show. Deals with the final years of high school and the ending of an era. Adds faith and challenges the notion of what a Slayer should be. Great villains this time around with the Faith v.s Buffy story line being the highlight. This is also the last season before Angel, Cordelia and Wesley with his brief appearance leave the show for their own. One of my favorite Finales next to the 5th years. We also get to see Xander save the day for the first time in one of my favorite episodes The Zeppo. My only gripe with this season is there is only one episode with Spike and I can't get enough of him.
Favorite Episodes: Anne, Faith Hope & Trick, Band Candy, The Zeppo, Bad Girls, Consequences, Earshot, Graduation day 1 +2.

Season 4: All in all this is in my opinion the worst season for the series. Drastic change from how the show worked now that the characters have grown up from high school and are attending college. Riley has always been my least favorite character on the show and is in no way a suitable replacement for Angel. The Initiative was an interesting story line but ultimately was pretty predictable and Adam was just a bland villain. Not to say the season did not have its moments and included one of the most praised episodes Hush for the majority of it had no audible speech. I respect Joss for ending this season differently by defeating the villain in the 21st episode and doing something more artistic with the last episode.
Favorite Episodes: The Initiative, Hush, A New Man, Prime evil, Restless.

Season 5: Another top quality season here. This season is just one giant mystery. Added Dawn to the scoobies, and while the character herself was a bit irritating her story line was great. The reason for her existence caught me by surprise and it was great that they didn't explain the inexplicable little sister until 5 or 6 episodes in. Many people did not like Glory but she was one of my favorite villains. She was a very frightening big bad because when she showed up you knew there was nothing anybody could do to stop her. This was really shown well in the scene when Glory sucks Tara's mind. this was also the first time we see what Willow really was capable off when she faces off against Glory. Also contains the scariest episode of the series with "The Body" everything is just so eerie and real. The absence of music and most other worldy things just has our heroes dealing with something they aren't used to, Natural death. I shed a small tear during the finale and most surprising ending to any season.
Favorite Episodes: Buffy V.s Dracula, Family, I was made to Love you, The Body, Spiral, The Gift.

Season 6: The most daring season by far. Takes our loveable characters and just makes everything darker. Stories about Corruption, murder, sex and "drug" addiction. I was torn with this season as it had some great story lines but also was a little too much of a departure from the rest of the series. Even the trio who were just silly little villains end up taking dark turns which leads to evil Willow which was one of the best story lines. My feelings for the season like I said are torn because for instance I loved the idea that Buffy was in Heaven and finally at peace with everything and content with her death and she was just torn out of it to be brought back to a world filled with danger and worries. That was great but they stayed on that for too long and Buffy was getting annoying with her seclusions and it took too long for her purely physical relationship with Spike to go places. Another grip is the exclusion of Giles from many of the episodes, I understand Anthony Stewart Head wanted to do other things But Giles was always my favorite character next to Spike. I do however love Once More with feeling and never realized how well A musical episode would fit Buffy.
Favorite Episodes: Bargaining 1 +2, Once more with Feeling, Tabula Rasa, Double Meat palace, Villains, two to go, Grave

Season 7: The end of everything here. Whedon purposely veered away from the darker elements of season 6 and it felt like a trip back. The High School was opened again all the characters were all around happier and its easy to see how everyone has grown.The First was an interesting Villain because it was not something that could physically hurt anyone but caused serious damage just with its words. I really liked The story line between Wood and Spike by bringing back more of Spikes past and slightly touching upon the idea of a Slayer having a Child. I was pleased with the Ending in Chosen because not only did they stop the big bad and save the world like they did 6 times already it put some closure on the show and gave Buffy the chance to have a normal life and not be responsible for protecting the world.
Favorite Episodes: Same time Same Place, Conversations with dead People, Potential, Lies my parents told me, touched, End of Days, Chosen.


Wow never felt nerdier than after just typing all that Buffy talk. Buffy is one of my favorite series that is alot deeper and dynamic than most people assume.

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18/20 - didn't know Buffy's father's name or the type of demon that Ethan turned Giles into.

Great questions and thanks for including some Anya questions - I loves me some Anya.

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Yay for Buffy quizzes. 18/20 on the first and 20/20 on the second.:)

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I know this is The Buffy Thread but would any of you have any interest in an Angel quiz or two?

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Argh, 19/20.

I couldn't remember Faith's last name.

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Has anyone picked up the season 8 comic?

I got the first volume which is the first 5 issues I think but I'm not loving it. Maybe it's because I never read many comics and aren't used to the medium but it is just really convoluted and hard to follow.

Also everything that is going on is kinda hard to believe with Buffy having her own Army and base of operations and Dawn being a gianr and everything. i feel they are making everything absolutly crazy just cause it is a comic and they aren't limited with how over the top everything can be.

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I've read every issue so far, and I love it. It takes a while to really get going, but the writers (Joss Whedon, Brian K Vaughn, and Drew Goddard) have done a great job so far, and it's one of the few comics I still enjoy. Buffy has always asked for suspension of disbelief, so giant Dawn doesn't bother me at all. The show, I have no doubt, would have been just as nuts if they'd had the budget for it. lol

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Any Dawn bothers me! I liked the issue that focused on Faith best!

I hear there is a gay love scene between Buffy and one of the Slayerettes in an issue. I haven't seen it yet.

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Yes, there is, and it honestly makes perfect sense in context, and isn't just a "shock value" thing. I'm interested to see where the story goes with that.

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I'm looking forward to reading it.

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Good quiz, although I remember Buffy dying three times in the show. Once in Prophecy Girl at the end of season one (they DID say she was dead...even if only for a few minutes), once when she sacrificed herself at the end of season 5, and then once when the show ended...wait, i am questioning whether or not she died when the show ended... Did she? Christ how can I have forgotten that... Some fan I am... Time to watch again.

Buffy dies in Prophecy girl, which empowers Kendra, who is then killed after Buffy comes back, empowering Faith. This causes a schism so that when Buffster takes the dive for Dawnie in season 5, another slayer is NOT generated. Then, at show's end, I thought Buffy sacrificed herself to empower a whole slew of women? Or....did she not die then? How can I not remember that... I guess I was too busy bawling over Anya :(


I miss Anya...


OK I am watching the series finale when I get home tonight... I feel like a bad fan :(


EDIT - She lived at the end. How I forgot that, I don't know... It has been since 03 that i watched the show tho...I am going to go ahead and play the age card on this one... else I be chastised by other Buffy heads for being a bad fan!

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Monkey Punch how many issues of season 8 are out as of now?

I have the vol. 1 which is the first 5 issues and have to admit after issue 4 it has gotten a little more interesting so I'll see how I feel after i finish the last one I have if I will buy more.

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I have up to issue 13 so far.

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:nope:

That's me shaking my head...not saying no.

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Ok, is anyone else watching Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog (@ www.drhorrible.com)? It stars Neil Patrick Harris and Nathan Fillion, and is written, of course, by Joss Whedon (otherwise, why would I mention it in the Buffy thread?). It is just seriously funny, and fans of "Once More With Feeling" will love it. Parts one and two are out now, part three is out on Sunday. It's genius.

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great quiz! i got 16 out of 20. I missed Who kills Kendra?, Where was Riley from? (which I realized like the second after i selected my answer), What is Willow afraid of? (which I should have gotten right, kicked myself for that one. I also missed the question about what Anya was the patron saint of, I though she was a vengance demon and her friend Halfrek that gets killed by D'Hoffryn was the patron saint of scorned women. I guess that vengance demon was generic title and both of them were the same kind of demon...I dont remember that well I guess, its been a long time since i have watched anything but season 5 of buffy...Tell me that Glory wasnt the best villan on the show, other than Angelus of course...

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Its Great! just found the link a few minutes before @ www.filmschoolrejects.com good good stuff.

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First quiz is fun too, not as good as the 2nd, only because it was kind of easy, but great job!!!

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I started the series again last night! It has been quite a while since I had a Buffy fix!

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I sometimes get my fix by reading one of the novels. They have the same type of dialog and different some different story lines than the show.

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Oh, I need to see lil bouncy Buffy doing the asskix chix thang! LT watched the first episode with me, but she was NOT digging the show at all. I am hoping she starts to like it after a few more episodes, even though season one has some really bad ones. Watching season one is sort of necessary...

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People tend to not like the show in the beginning, hell I didn't even really like it but chose to stick with it. When introducing the show to people who I know won't really be interested in season I usually just show them the first two episodes the Angel episode and the finale as thats all you really need plot wise.

I also throw The Pack in there as its not really too necessary plot wise I just think its a great episode.

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I was thinking of not showing a few of the episodes in season one. Especially I Robot, You Jane, which is horrible...

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I dunno, I just find something charming about season 1. I think it's the simplicity of the season. It serves as a great introduction to the show even though the latter season are MUCH more advanced. I thought that Witch was the weakest episode of Season 1, but I, Robert isn't far behind. What's your favourite of Season 1, Sed?

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I think to speed up her interest you should just show her the episodes that are apart of the arc of season 1 because most of the standalone episodes in that season won't make her a fan. Don't worry, once she gets on Season 2 she'll be thinkin' it's the best show in the world...because it was.

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You know, I think I need to re-watch it all before choosing, although I remember really liking Prophecy Girl. Certain episodes stand out from the entire series, but, it's been years since I watched it, so I need a refresher! ;)

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Remember the old video tapes that Fox put out of the show, where it had all the major plot point episodes from season one except "prophecy girl" which was totally confusing because that's a really important episode? Yeah, thats how I first saw the show and I got hooked. Thankfully FX started running the re-runs shortly afterward.

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Yikes. That is such a key episode, especially since it activates another Slayer...

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer is my favorite television show ever. I own the entire series on DVD, and I have Volumes 1 and 2 of Season 8 and plan to get Volume 3 shortly. I also have the first two volumes of Angel: After the Fall, which is also very good. They're the first graphic novels I've ever read, really, and I'm liking them a lot.

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JUST started re-watching the whole series. Damn, I miss Buffy. Did you like Angel, as well? Another great series...

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Hell yes I like Angel. :D I own the entire series of Angel on DVD also, and, as I said, the first two volumes of its graphic novels. The Angel series isn't quite as good as the Buffy series, but it's still one of my favorites. They're both connected, though, so you can't truly have one without the other. I'd say Buffy first, then LOST, and Angel right after that. :cool:

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Yeah, Buffy is the original series, so I guess I have to put it up above Angel. I really liked Angel's last season though, while Buffy's last was severely uneven (I HATED the Slayerettes, but loved Caleb and the First).

The shows have been topped though since, IMO. For me:

BSG
Veronica Mars
Buffy
Firefly
Lost
Angel

I like them all about equally, though. Veronica owes a TON to Buffy, but it is seriously tight, and hard to find flaw with, while Buffy is flawed but great.

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I enjoyed the final season of Buffy, but I do agree that the "Slayerettes" weren't one of the series' strong points. Caleb was awesome and the First was really cool, and the final episode of Season 7 is just about my favorite episode in the entire series. The final scene of the episode, I thought, was perfect. Where they're all standing there looking out into the crater that was once Sunnydale, and Willow says something like "What are we gonna do now?" And Buffy just stands there and smiles.

Goosebumps.

:D And I probably most enjoyed Season 4 of Angel the most. The Beast was insanely cool. The fight scene with him and Faith? Awesomeness.

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Have you seen Dark Angel, La Femme Nikita, Dead Like Me or the 4400? Those were also great shows for me.

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I haven't seen any of those, lol.

Yeah, The final Buffy episode was so, so good. I cried over certain events I shant spoil here...

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Yep, I've seen (and own) Dark Angel. Awesome show. James Cameron + Jessica Alba = awesome. :cool:

I don't remember crying, but I got goosebumps like crazy during that last scene. Heh.

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I have to say that I'm not a fan of the ending of Buffy. In fact, I'm not really a fan of the whole last episode, but I really hated that ending. The ending of Angel on the other hand, was superb.

While I think that Angel was, arguably, the better series, I love Buffy the most. Angel really wasn't the same after season 3. If I had to choose one and never see the other again, it'd definately be Buffy that I chose to keep.

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I think the fact that Angel brought Spike back really hurt the final episode of Buffy.

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So you like a more open ending that allows interpretation, one that's up for the audience to decide, as opposed to a more concrete one then? I think both endings to both series were fantastic (meaning the very last scenes of both shows), but how Willow asked Buffy that question and the expression on her face, I thought, I was brilliant.

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Haven't seen any of the other ones you named but I loved Dead Like Me... and so need to buy it... :D

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I loved the last season of Angle - Ilyria was one of the best characters in either series. The puppet episode was gold...

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Yep. I caught that bit of nudity with the female werewolf character. :cool: That was pretty hot.

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I thought Angel almost transcended Buffy, by the time Angel finished I thought the show was a lot more solid and had a lot more fun with itself, instead of Buffy which I think lost it's momentum as it went on- never really got out of the high-school rut. I think Buffy was suited to a concrete ending because it had undoubtedly run it's course, whereas Angel was cancelled (if i remember correctly?) and left hope. I think it took all the good elements and had worked them into a great formula plus the Wolfram and Heart show-arc kept the momentum despite a few blips- think the Cordelia stuff got a bit messy. Anyway, Buffy was a more consistent show with more stand out episodes but by the time it got to the end, Angel had taken all the good stuff and was having a lot more fun with it.

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Buffy was always more about the drama and Angel was always more about the action and fighting (but both series had plenty of each), so in a way, I agree. However, like I said: although I agree the "Slayerettes" weren't one of the series' strong points, I did like Season 7 a lot. The First was insanely cool, and there were a few spectacular moments throughout the season, particularly with Jonathan and Warren (the First disguised as Warren, rather).

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God I miss Buffy. Angel was pretty good but it was not as good as Buffy. Although the Angel puppet episode was one of the best shows of the series by far.

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Ahh, i forgot about the Trio. I think Buffy kinda got stuck in a rut after the high-school angle played out. It had nice bits like the end of Season 6 but i think the Slayrettes and Dawn were partly symptomatic of that. Maybe that's why i liked Angel Season 5 because it just get kept getting better and 5 was it's pinnacle whereas Buffy rise and fell to somewhat.

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Personally, I think that Angel topped out at Season 2. My favourite Buffy season is season 3. Faith and The Mayor were fantastic, both seperately and together and Cordy was still there of course.

Also, although everyone seems to think otherwise, I think that the last episode of Angel was pretty conclusive, but maybe that's just my pessermistic mind at work again. Unlike Buffy though, I think it's one of the strongest episodes of Angel. Wes and Lorne's final scenes are outstanding.

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I loved both shows but the biggest problems I saw in them, I've listed below.

Buffy:

The de-construction of the characters we loved.

Angel:

Too much character incest, particularly with the Conner storyline.

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So, I heard that somewhere in the Season 8 graphic novels of Buffy, Buffy herself gets a little girl-on-girl action? :D I'm half-way through Volume 2 (of the three that are presently out) and so far, no such thing. :/

Where is it, or is this just a rumor?

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I've heard that too. From what I can tell it's not just a rumor.

I recently ordered the comics through issue 19 for X'mas, for my girl.

I'm hoping that issue is among them. Sadly, it's not Faith and Buffy but Buffy and one of the slayerettes or so I hear.

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Ah. Thanks, Bleach. Volume 2 (I'm not sure of the issue numbers) is mostly centered around Faith and her story, fighting a rogue Slayerette turned evil. I'm guessing that something as potentially big as Buffy going bi-curious wouldn't fit in Volume 2 with that going on, so I'm think it'll be in Volume 3.

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Honestly, Faith is my fav slayer and the books I've read that center on her are my favs in the series so far.

My girl lets me read her comics so if it appears in 11-19, I'll come back and post.

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All right, sweet, Bleach. Currently, I'm half-way through the volume that centers around Faith. Faith herself at one point got into a bathtub naked with another Slayer who was also naked, but nothing happened and we didn't, like...see anything. :P

But it was still a good read, that scene. :D

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I'm re-watching season two right now, and although I am enjoying it immensely, I have to agree with Pyro that it just gets better as it goes on; each season better than the last. That's fairly rare.

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I do remember there was a wishy-washy mid bit way through (prob with Connor) where it seemed they weren't sure where they were going but generally it does become more and more comfortable and confident with it's structure and content as it went on, i felt.

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My curiousity got the better of me when I was in the bookstore earlier tonight. :D I took Volume 3 of Buffy Season 8 off the shelf and quickly (very quickly) skimmed through it, and I caught a glimpse of the scene where Buffy herself goes bi-curious. And...it's not just a kiss or anything like that; [spoiler] she goes all the way. :cool: I didn't look at the page *nearly* long enough to identify who she was with, but I now know that this infamous thing takes place in Volume 3. Can't wait to get there; I'm currently almost through Volume 2 and I plan to purchase Volume 3 in the coming couple of weeks.

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Kewl!

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:yup:

I was tempted to go back and read the entire page the scene was on after I had put the book back on the shelf, but I resisted. Like I said, I didn't even see who Buffy was with in the scene; I looked at it for less than two seconds. That's something I don't want spoiled out of context. :cool:

Seriously speaking, though, there had *better* be good lead-up to why Buffy herself goes bi-curious; I feel this is something she would never have done in the television series, so I'm expecting one hell of an explanation. I hope Joss didn't throw it in the comics just for a little fun. I'm hoping there's more to it than that.

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She gets possessed.

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LOL, Pyro. Any Buffy girl-on-girl action is okay with me, but Buffy's one of my favorite characters in all of pop culture, so I'd like the reason as to why she goes fully bi-curious to be a good one. I don't want it to be just something the creators wanted to have a little fun with in the comics. I'll soon find out, though. :cool:

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Erm... Y'know it's a drawing? Right?

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So did you guys think that Buffy going from her normal romantic self to someone who liked to knock down houses while doing it (with Spike), was gratuitous or called for in storyline and character development? I'm curious.

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My mind paints vivid pictures. ;)

She liked to knock down houses *literally* when doing it (with Spike). :yup: I think Buffy's sexual relationship with Spike was called for in the series because it all affected how Spike acted in the series finale. Had it not been for his intimacy with Buffy, perhaps he wouldn't have sacrificed himself to obliterate the First's army. Their relationship caused a lot of awkward moments during the show, but I felt it necessary to advance the plot and character development, and to create a new twist.

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I thought it went against Buffy's character and that irritated me a great deal. I also hated the attempted rape later.

I'm all for rough sex in character but to twist a character to such an unrecognizable and even unlikeable shape makes me angry.

I will say that Spike's development was one of the few interesting things on the show in the last seasons.

He could have been great on Angel but they wasted him.

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Update:

Buffy, season eight, issue 12, Wolves At The Gate Part 1, is in bed with a female. I just read it. Off now to read the others!

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I have now exposed LT to Buffy...and she is completely addicted. We powered through season 1-3 over the past couple of weeks, and started Angel Season 1 now that we are watching Buffy season 4. Both shows still hold up incredibly well. For me, it is some bittersweet nostalgia re-watching, that just makes me miss the shows more than ever!

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I still need to buy the Volume of Season 8 that includes Issue 12. That would be Volume 3, I believe, and I have Volumes 1 and 2. At the risk of sounding creepy, I can't wait to read it. :D Again, I hope there's an actual, real reason for Buffy to have done it instead of just being something thrown in there by the creators to mess with the fans.

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I think im the only person on here that realy dislikes the show.

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It is fun for me to experience shows through a virgin watchers reactions!

LOVE that!

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Me too. I got busy with other things and still need to read the other ones in this series but the first comic I mentioned gave NO reason.

Joss does that a lot IMO. Maybe to him attraction and sex is as inexplicable as it is for Jerry Springer guests? LOL.

BTW, it just occurred to me the other night that there are often dire consequences for heterosexual sex on Buffy but not so much for homosexual sex. I find that interesting.

Does anyone know if Joss was raised in a strict religion? I'm curious. Often that's where these ideas that there must be terrible outcomes for sex come from.

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Well, I think it's a show that needs a few episodes to hook a person. On the surface, it seems silly, but it is actually one of the most intelligent shows to ever run on TV. They study it at Oxford (or did for a while when it was big), if that gives you any indication of how deep it is.

It took me a few episodes to "get it" back when it was running.

Some of the best TV entertainment ever, IMHO.

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I disagree. I think there were dire consequences sometimes, when the metaphor called for it (like season 2's Angelus thread), but other times (Oz and Willow for instance), the show illustrated that if approached responsibly, it could be great. True, later Oz and Willow hit the skids, but I think that had more to do with Seth Green's exploding career than with how they planned to resolve those characters.

When there were consequences, I think Joss was illustrating a specific metaphor in life that dealt with how much sex can complicate things between two people. Certainly accurate, if you ask me.

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Interesting I may borrow a boxset or two off my brother in law as he is a fan of Buffy and Angel. I have had a few of my amtes telling me that I should watch it as its awesome, but ive seen "Bits" of episodes and havent really enjoyed it, but will give it a go. ;)

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My fav love story was Willow and Oz! I agree they did that one well.

I just don't think it's reasonable for Buffy to have so many dire consequences for having sex. I really haven't seen that be accurate in RL. I thought it was mean.

The one I hated the most was when she had sex in college with that first boy. *grr*

Anyway, the whole Willow and Oz thing made the Gay Willow thing just really not work for me. I have nothing against being gay, mind you. I just don't think you wake up one day after having a great relationship and say, Oops! I'm Gay!

I think you might say, I'm going to explore. I'm bi. I'm omni sexual, hetroflexible, or just into people and don't care what sex they are but to go, from being straight and happy to gay and happy, that just didn't work for me.

That being said, Willow and her first girl was the second best relationship on the show. Willow was allowed to have mostly happy working relationships. I don't know why.

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Yeah N3wt this is one show you definitely should not judge by its cover. Sure in "bits" makes it seem kinda childish and corny but Sedai is right. Stick in for a few episodes in a row preferably the earlier episodes than make up your mind.

This is definitely a series you should not miss some of the best written stuff I have seen on the t.v.

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So I finished the comics up to this point. I have to say I really don't like the comic format. I'm a words person and this tells a story but leaves a lot of holes due to not having enough room for the words.

A lot of that art is just distracting and not enhancing of the storytelling. It's better than nothing but I want a book, movie or TV show.

The Angel comic I couldn't even understand the thread of the story.

*sigh*

There are some amusing bits in these comics. I won't spoil it by telling though.

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Sounds like the stuff perhaps isn't done very well. Some comics portray story very well, with the art definitely enhancing the story. The comic medium is fantastic if done properly.

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It's not a medium I've ever really liked so it could just be me. I will say the "voices" of the characters are right. Joss's dialog still works.

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I was wondering about that. I think the timing of the jokes is so important, and I was wondering if it would work in print. I have his X-men stuff, though, and it totally works there.

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Agreed. While the comics are nowhere near the level of excellence that the shows are on, they do their job in telling what happens after the series take place, and do so pretty well with innovative stories (moreso Buffy's than Angel's) and very nice artwork (moreso Angel's than Buffy's).

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Buffy is one of the best TV shows ever.

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Even though this isn't Buffy, I just picked up the Angel series for 45 bucks.

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good deal dude where did you find that

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It's Buffy enough, TUS! LT and I are watching Buffy S4 and Angel S1. Trying to keep them synced up as originally intended...

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Did you get the seasons individually or the entire series collection in that nifty box set?

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Entire collection in the box set. It was an amazon golden box deal.

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Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the first TV show in which I absolutely HAD to watch every episode when it aired. Unfortunately for me, none of my friends watched the show, so I had no one to talk to about it.

The show introduced me to Sarah Michelle Gellar, who when I saw I had an instant crush. She was my first celebrity crush and will always have a special place in my pants...I mean heart. Here is an actress who is unfortunately stuck in crappy roles (see a bunch of teen horror flicks). When she branched out, it was in the wrong direction (Scooby Doo). I hoped that Richard Kelly's Southland Tales would be a comeback role for her, we all know how that turned out. I still look forward to her film roles and hope she gets out of those crappy ones that float her way. If people 'actually' saw her work on Buffy, they would give her better roles. She can handle them.

The rest of the cast is remarkable. Anthony Steward Head is brilliant and hilarious as Giles. Alyson Hannigan is cute, adorable, funny and scary in the later seasons as Willow the witch. Nicholas Brendon, I'm surprised hasn't done much since the cancellation. He had excellent comedic timing and when the scene called for dramatic chops, he was able to deliver. I'll admit I was not a fan of him towards the end of the show, he got really annoying. I think it was the episode where he left Anya during the wedding.

Angel/Spike. Two actors who are perfect for their roles. One who is a TV star, the other who still needs to find his place in the spotlight, but who rightfully deserves it. Some of the story lines with Angel and Buffy are heartbreaking. Buffy with Spike was something the fans wanted and finally got, but again, near the end it got tiring and weird.

Seth Green, Emma Caulfield, Amber Benson, Eliza Dushku, Kristen Sutherland, Tom Lenk, Charisma Carpenter, so many more to mention.

The story lines were deep and certainly raised the show above the title, whom many thought was childish and thus threw the show away.

So many funny, dramatic, action, entertaining episodes that I don't know if I can pick a favourite, but there are certainly ones that do stand out.

I do think the final season was the weakest. It became too much of Buffy giving her speech (which was brilliant self referenced by Andrew)

The one thing I do remember though, earlier in the series, was the moment Jenny Calendar died. At that moment, I knew this show was something else. Something I knew I would love no matter how many years down the road.

Guess what, I still do.

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Every Tuesday I still remind myself that Buffy is no longer on...

Seriously. I miss the show terribly.

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If it wasn't for my sister when I was living at home being so persistent about watching it I may have never gotten into the show. At first I was a typical douche, no show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer can be any good, but it took about four or five episodes and I was hooked. I think it was Season 3 if I remember correctly, and after that I started watching them all in order to catch up in the series, (the Space channel would play them in order) after that I never missed an episode. I miss having that show on tv.