Some of the stats here...
2013 - 17 2011 - 13 2015 - 13 2010 - 10 2012 - 9 2014 - 9 2016 - 9 2017 - 9 2018 - 8 2019 - 6 5 films apiece - Martin Scorsese, Denis Villenueve 3 - Terrence Malick, Paul Thomas Anderson, Wes Anderson, Coen Brothers, Roman Polanski, Quentin Tarantino (only 2 entries) 2 - Darren Aronofsky, Taika Waititi, Yorgos Lanthimos, David Lowery, Dan Gilroy, Ben Wheatley, Oz Perkins, Bong Joon-ho, James Gray, Noah Baumbach, Panos Cosmatos, David Cronenberg, Alejandro Jodorowsky (only 1 entry), JC Chandor (only 1 entry) Review upvotes - Drive - 10 Mad Max: Fury Road - 8 Parasite - 8 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - 7 Nightcrawler - 7 The Blackcoat's Daughter - 7 The Babadook - 7 Hugo - 7 The Tree of Life - 6 Arrival - 6 Ex Machina - 6 Blue Ruin - 6 JoJo Rabbit - 6 Gravity - 6 The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - 6 Ghost Writer - 6 The Nice Guys - 6 The non-review post with the most upvotes goes to crumbsroom's defense of the Nazi satire in JoJo Rabbit, a film, I remind, that he has not seen. |
Originally Posted by Jinnistan (Post 2187578)
The non-review post with the most upvotes goes to crumbsroom's defense of the Nazi satire in JoJo Rabbit, a film, I remind, that he has not seen.
I've just seen it, my father cried tears of joy, and everything I said pre-emptively was proven to be true. |
So what does crumbs win? His requested final list in one place.
100. Hugo 99. High Rise 98. Anomalisa 97. I Am the Pretty Thing in the House 96. The Nice Guys 95. Mandy 94. A Dangerous Method 93. Carnage 92. The Meyerowitz Stories 91. Roman J. Israel, Esq 90. The Place Beyond the Pines 89. Why Don't You Play In Hell? 88. Django Unchained/The Hateful Eight 87. Margin Call/A Most Violent Year 86. The Babadook 85. Snowpiercer 84. The Forbidden Room 83. Animal Kingdom 82. The Eyes of My Mother 81. Cosmopolis 80. Beyond the Black Rainbow 79. The Death of Stalin 78. Ghost Writer 77. Shame 76. The Wolf of Wall Street 75. A Ghost Story 74. Shutter Island (in B&W) 73. Francis Ha! 72. Hail Caesar! 71. Sicario 70. Scott Pilgrim vs the World 69. Isle of Dogs 68. Blade Runner 2049 67. Pariah 66. Ad Astra 65. Mary Marcy May Marlene 64. To The Wonder 63. The Immigrant 62. Meek's Cutoff 61. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 60. Incendies 59. Hara-Kiri 58. Parasite 57. Drive 56. Gravity 55. Eighth Grade 54. You Were Never Really Here 53. Venus in Fur 52. Certified Copy 51. The Favourite 50. The Blackcoat's Daughter 49. The Assassin 48. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy 47. Inherent Vice 46. The Florida Project 45. Kill List 44. High Life 43. Hard To Be A God 42. Nightcrawler 41. Beasts of No Nation 40. Jojo Rabbit 39. The Raid 2 38. Mad Max: Fury Road 37. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 36. The Grand Budapest Hotel 35. Under The Skin 34. Enemy 33. Blue Ruin 32. Burning 31. Ain't Them Bodies Saints 30. Ex Machina 29. Killing Them Softly 28. The Lobster 27. Inside Llewyn Davis 26. Black Swan 25. Birdman 24. The Handmaiden 23. What We Do in the Shadows 22. Embrace of the Serpent 21. The Irishman 20. Take Shelter 19. Upstream Color 18. The Lighthouse 17. The Counselor 16. Holy Motors 15. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives 14. The Dance of Reality/Endless Poetry 13. Arrival 12. Phantom Thread 11. Knight of Cups 10. The Other Side of the Wind 9. American Hustle 8. Moonlight 7. Moonrise Kingdom 6. Her 5. The Master 4. Youth 3. Silence 2. Mother! 1. The Tree of Life |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2187589)
I've just seen it, my father cried tears of joy, and everything I said pre-emptively was proven to be true.
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Fine JJ. One of the only good recent superhero movies. I will add these qualifiers.
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Originally Posted by Jinnistan (Post 2187570)
Ms. Teschmacher!!!
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Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2187601)
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I’ve seen 80 of your top 100. Sigh. Guess I should get around to the others.
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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 2187073)
Ah yes, the only good superhero movie.
https://i.ibb.co/X558jKK/tumblr-ppax...olk1o1-400.gif That being said, until he says otherwise, I'm just going to assume it didn't make Jinn's list because he hasn't seen it yet (but, if that's the case... then see it already, yo!). |
Originally Posted by StuSmallz (Post 2187699)
While I wouldn't have minded seeing a few Superhero movies here (particularly Logan), I'm more concerned about people possibly being dismissive of Spider-Verse because they consider it a "kid's movie":
https://i.ibb.co/X558jKK/tumblr-ppax...olk1o1-400.gif That being said, until he says otherwise, I'm just going to assume it didn't make Jinn's list because he hasn't seen it yet (but, if that's the case... then see it already, yo!). |
Originally Posted by Jinnistan (Post 2187593)
Still. Like hitting a 3* with your eyes closed.
*basketball thing I liked it. It shouldn't have worked considering how raw its emotions were, and how deliberate its pacing and overly composed style was. But it did. I think it managed to pinch just enough Wes Anderson, without being derivative, but delivering an effective storybook aesthetic. But it didn't skimp on the realities of the war, or its effect on all of its characters, most especially (and obviously) Jojo. Ultimately, it felt familiar, but at the same time, very much its own thing. While I can definitely get why some might not like the movie in general, I was left even more puzzled by those (at least those who've actually seen it) that were up in arms over it supposedly not treating its subject matter appropriately.. While I can see a little bit of its humor bristling the feathers of some (not that humor has any obligation to step around distressing subject matter, but I get not wanting to participate) nothing about its use of empathy seemed misplaced in regards to the Nazis. Using empathy doesn't absolve or normalize Nazism. At all. It's simply pretty much exactly as I stated earlier. Choosing to treat Nazi's as essentially human (because they are) is necessary because this is what is at the core of understanding Nazism. People made this happen. Not factory manufactured villains. People. That's where the true horror lies. Is what can allow us to consider what happened in 1930s/40s Germany as still a present day condition. And as for Jojo's sympathies, they are never meant to be the audiences. We are meant to see how he has been led astray by the images he has been given of Hitler, which because he is a child, is hardly even Hitler at all. He doesn't truly even understand what he is following, even if he likes to think of himself as a true believer. This is why Waititi's performance is considerably cuddlier than you might expect it to be, and why his darker energies are only hinted at. It's an exaggerration of how a child (or, really, anyone) could misinterpret the character of such a man in the first place. Of how propaganda warps the way we view reality. While having a realistically portrayed Hitler may have been funnier in a number of ways, I think it would completely undermine the point of the film, by making Jojo much too aware of what a malignant person he was following. Because this is a film about how otherwise good people can be led down the kind of road that leads to Nazism. It is not about the ******** who are already more than eager to go that way. |
Re: Jinn's 100 Films of the 2010s
I haven't seen 37 from this list. Pitiful, but honestly, not as bad as it could have been. I've hardly caught up to this millennium after all.
As for lack of superhero films, I obviously approve. While I think something like Spiderverse was actually really good and clever, it's still not the kind of film that actually means anything to me. Being good is hardly a qualifier for relevance in my mind. And, as most know of me by now, it is probably more of a handicap. Too much energy gets wasted being good. Or clever. Rehearsed talent has a nefarious way of shielding the artists soul from view, by taming raw instinct. |
Originally Posted by StuSmallz (Post 2187699)
While I wouldn't have minded seeing a few Superhero movies here (particularly Logan), I'm more concerned about people possibly being dismissive of Spider-Verse because they consider it a "kid's movie":
https://i.ibb.co/X558jKK/tumblr-ppax...olk1o1-400.gif That being said, until he says otherwise, I'm just going to assume it didn't make Jinn's list because he hasn't seen it yet (but, if that's the case... then see it already, yo!). |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2187756)
I haven't seen 37 from this list. Pitiful, but honestly, not as bad as it could have been. I've hardly caught up to this millennium after all.
As for lack of superhero films, I obviously approve. While I think something like Spiderverse was actually really good and clever, it's still not the kind of film that actually means anything to me. Being good is hardly a qualifier for relevance in my mind. And, as most know of me by now, it is probably more of a handicap. Too much energy gets wasted being good. Or clever. Rehearsed talent has a nefarious way of shielding the artists soul from view, by taming raw instinct. |
I've only seen 35 of these but that's not a surprise since I mostly prefer to watch older movies.
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Only seen 32 off the list. But have seen 42 others from that decade. Now, 74 looks more respectful.
Boyhood Shoplifters La La Land Four Lions Zero Dark Thirty Widows Sicario The Martian Spotlight Logan Lucky Guardians of the Galaxy Amy Baby Driver Stan & Ollie True Grit Whiplash Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri Room Fighting With My Family Shaun the Sheep movie The Shape of Water Manchester by the Sea Rocketman A Quiet Place The Big Sick Looper BlacKKKlansman Dallas Buyers Club Booksmart Ford vs Ferrari Hell or High Water Logan Get Out Bridge of Spies Dunkirk Captain Phillips Free Solo Carol Eye in the Sky Knives Out Crazy Rich Asians Creed |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2187756)
As for lack of superhero films, I obviously approve. While I think something like Spiderverse was actually really good and clever, it's still not the kind of film that actually means anything to me. Being good is hardly a qualifier for relevance in my mind. And, as most know of me by now, it is probably more of a handicap. Too much energy gets wasted being good. Or clever. Rehearsed talent has a nefarious way of shielding the artists soul from view, by taming raw instinct.
https://youtu.be/XXkwJupqoJA |
Originally Posted by Jinnistan (Post 2186144)
13. Arrival (2016, dir. Denis Villenueve)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...vie_Poster.jpg In a decade that saw a lot of high concept/big twist studio sci-fi releases, this may be the only one that mattered. Villenueve's touch is nearly immaculate here, Bradford Young's cinematography soars, Amy Adams is at her best, and, most crucially, both the concept and the twist aren't convoluted to overly impress. The concept is a clever linguistic puzzle concerning a plausible method of extraterrestrial communication (although similar to Contact). The twist isn't designed to blow your mind but does the rare thing that virtually no big twist can manage - actually enhance the emotional resonance of the film (and reveal its poetic structure on rewatch). My wife and I went to see this with another couple, who are sort of your super sweet normie types, who casually watch films but never return for a re-watch to ponder the meanings behind them. Going in, the only thing any of us knew was that the film concerned aliens. As the film unspooled in its measured way, I could tell the other couple was growing restless. When were the giant ships going to unleash death rays on the White House? When was Will Smith going to show up? When does the battle start? By the time the film reached the twist, these people were ready to go. The wife had purse in hand and husband had his snack trash ready for the receptacle. Meanwhile, my wife and I were both in tears, having been completely disarmed by the absolutely brilliant way Arrival uses Hitchcockian audience manipulation to deftly nudge the viewer into creating a chronological order of events in our mind, only to have the rug pulled out from under them us the end of the film as we realize what has actually happened. This was deeply affecting to both of us, and my wife quietly asked that we remain in our seats until she could collect herself before venturing back out into the lobby. The other couple was gobsmacked, and immediately jumped to the conclusion that my wife was upset about something completely unrelated to the film. In their haste to get through the movie and leave, they had somehow missed the twist entirely, not understanding the significance of the final scenes. When we got back to the car and asked if they liked it, they just said "It wasn't what I/we expected," and didn't have much else to say about it, even after my attempts to explain the ending. "Well, I would never sit through that again. Nothing happens in that movie." Each to his or her own, of course. My wife and I have seen it multiple times now, and the impact of those final moments is still as potent as ever. |
Originally Posted by Captain Terror (Post 2187601)
Forget somethin', fella?
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